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Old 07-27-2010, 11:15 AM   #1
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official stickman discussion thread

this guy is like the warren buffet of limit holdem. i mean this guy will wait on the 2c/4c waitinglist for 20 hrs if a fish was in that game.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:33 AM   #2
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Wow. Just wow.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:09 PM   #3
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I hope to one day to climb the ladder just to be able to tell people I gave money to st1ckman

He's like 2005-6 Kobe Bryant, you know after the rape, before the non shaq rings, just hated by everyone and still dropping 50 every other night
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:23 PM   #4
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I hope to one day to climb the ladder just to be able to tell people I gave money to st1ckman

He's like 2005-6 Kobe Bryant, you know after the rape, before the non shaq rings, just hated by everyone and still dropping 50 every other night
diff is, stickman doesnt feel no remorse after a nice raping and the victim does not get a settlement.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:27 PM   #5
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double negatives itt
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:17 PM   #6
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Stick on a hefty downswing it seems. Even passed up some of the sickest 1k/2k ring game action on ftp recently in order to grind 1/2.
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:17 PM   #7
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Old 07-27-2010, 09:40 PM   #8
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I doubt St1ckman beats the regular games > 100/200 these days.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:14 PM   #9
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Russian imo.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:09 PM   #10
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Russian imo.
Have you guys seen the new direct Tv commercial with that russian guy with broken english..."Oppulence, I has it, but when I see a good deal, I jump in it" and at the end he kisses his mini-giraffe.

That is Stickman.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:15 AM   #11
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St1ckman IS GOD
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:49 AM   #12
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Have you guys seen the new direct Tv commercial with that russian guy with broken english..."Oppulence, I has it, but when I see a good deal, I jump in it" and at the end he kisses his mini-giraffe.

That is Stickman.
haha, that commercial totally cracks me up
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:00 AM   #13
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Just about every player has weaknesses, everyone can improve at the top of the LHE food chain. Some people do things incredible and other things mediocore/poor.. Other people are just very solid all around but nothing spectacular.

I really have no idea who the best LHE player in the world is... Or even a top 5.

But one thing I can say with complete confidence, that no one, and I mean no one comes REMOTELY CLOSE to st1ckman when it comes to game/table/site selection.
He is at least 2x better than his next closest competitor.
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:29 AM   #14
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agreed, stick seat selects in games that aren't even running.... now that's dedication!
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:15 AM   #15
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agreed, stick seat selects in games that aren't even running.... now that's dedication!
this is when its easiest to seat select! just sit and wait.

a couple weeks ago dd was watching me play 5/10 on ftp and i sat out planning to quit. then while we were chatting the guy that was on the left of the fish quit. the seat was open maybe 2-3 seconds while i typed my msg to dd. as i was clicking "stand up" to move seats, stick stood up at the same time and i already knew what had happened and as soon as i click on the seat i get the "this seat is occupied" or w/e the msg is on ftp and stick gets the seat. owned.

also i cant believe there is a "lets talk about a specific plyr" thread and it hasnt been deleted yet.
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Just about every player has weaknesses, everyone can improve at the top of the LHE food chain. Some people do things incredible and other things mediocore/poor.. Other people are just very solid all around but nothing spectacular.

I really have no idea who the best LHE player in the world is... Or even a top 5.

But one thing I can say with complete confidence, that no one, and I mean no one comes REMOTELY CLOSE to st1ckman when it comes to game/table/site selection.
He is at least 2x better than his next closest competitor.
I agree to u about the first part. But I don't think, St1ckman's attempt towards the game is something to really be proud of. He is always the one to sit out first, so he doesn't have to pay an additional BB, and on the other hand he regularly steals BBs from other players. I liked him better when he was splashing into every highstakes game that he saw, because he beat it at that time.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:47 AM   #17
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Ya you guys need to stop like semi praising st1ckman, what he does is ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. Every time he sits in and sits out everyone should do the same and fill the table. He basically has zero ethics, couldn't care less about anybody whether it be fish or regs, and has proven many times that hes just an ass hole.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:32 AM   #18
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Ya you guys need to stop like semi praising st1ckman, what he does is ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. Every time he sits in and sits out everyone should do the same and fill the table. He basically has zero ethics, couldn't care less about anybody whether it be fish or regs, and has proven many times that hes just an ass hole.
Ya its definitly unethical what he does...
The worst being constantly sitting in games he has no intention of playing (even once booted), just in case a fish drops in.

Basically if everyone was doing what he did, the games would be complete chaos, LHE would suffer dramatically and stars would have to do something about it.

But, what he does, despite being unethical, he does extremly well. You need crazy focus, attention, work ethic and discipline to just ALWAYS be there.

IMO, the way to combat it is a group of LHE high stakes regs sit down (like 10 of us) and say, ok , for 1 month, we all all mimic st1ckmans behaviour as much as possible. Make it so everyones pissed off, stars emails get flooded and they have to implement something to discourage it.

Until then st1ckman will have his cake and eat it too, and until a couple other players start doing it, it wont bother me too much.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:50 AM   #19
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this is when its easiest to seat select! just sit and wait.

a couple weeks ago dd was watching me play 5/10 on ftp and i sat out planning to quit. then while we were chatting the guy that was on the left of the fish quit. the seat was open maybe 2-3 seconds while i typed my msg to dd. as i was clicking "stand up" to move seats, stick stood up at the same time and i already knew what had happened and as soon as i click on the seat i get the "this seat is occupied" or w/e the msg is on ftp and stick gets the seat. owned.

also i cant believe there is a "lets talk about a specific plyr" thread and it hasnt been deleted yet.
He's beaten me on this on at least 10 occasions, normally by not more than a second or two. I've gotten him once or twice, however, and have felt like a god immediately afterwards. And then I insta drop 50 bets

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Ya its definitly unethical what he does...
The worst being constantly sitting in games he has no intention of playing (even once booted), just in case a fish drops in.

Basically if everyone was doing what he did, the games would be complete chaos, LHE would suffer dramatically and stars would have to do something about it.

But, what he does, despite being unethical, he does extremly well. You need crazy focus, attention, work ethic and discipline to just ALWAYS be there.

IMO, the way to combat it is a group of LHE high stakes regs sit down (like 10 of us) and say, ok , for 1 month, we all all mimic st1ckmans behaviour as much as possible. Make it so everyones pissed off, stars emails get flooded and they have to implement something to discourage it.

Until then st1ckman will have his cake and eat it too, and until a couple other players start doing it, it wont bother me too much.
Everybody is always saying he's totally unethical but I'm not sure where. Button stealing is maybe a little scummy but, whatever, and since the actual financial impact is so small it doesn't seem worth it to get worked up about it. All the other stuff that I'm aware of or have ever seen him do seems standard/smart.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:59 AM   #20
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The financial Impact is NOT small at all. Mb figure out some numbers.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:16 PM   #21
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Think about the stuff he does, then think about if everyone did it...
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:17 PM   #22
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Everybody is always saying he's totally unethical but I'm not sure where. Button stealing is maybe a little scummy but, whatever, and since the actual financial impact is so small it doesn't seem worth it to get worked up about it. All the other stuff that I'm aware of or have ever seen him do seems standard/smart.
Here is an example that I know of:

KPR is sitting at a ton of HU tables waiting but apparently not at his computer. Someone sits at one of KPR's tables and it times down to zero w/o KPR posting (rare. KPR will basically post vs anyone HU). Stick sees this. Then proceeds to go sit at each and every one of KPR's tables, hoping he forgot to uncheck autopost somewhere, and sure enough, does find that to be the case at a table or two, so he steals KPR's BB. KPR later confronts st1ck about this, and St1ck tries to justify it by saying something like "I've had my BB stolen from me before too" and refuses to send the money back.

KPR feel free to correct me if a detail or two is off in that, it's been awhile since I heard that story from you.
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Think about the stuff he does, then think about if everyone did it...
He is doing everything in his power to gain an edge without ever cheating right?

To be honest Im amazed there are not more people like him at high stakes LHE
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He is doing everything in his power to gain an edge without ever cheating right?

To be honest Im amazed there are not more people like him at high stakes LHE
Or mb enough of us realize that the poker economy really is a little analogous to a lake with fish in it.

If thousands of people all bring these huge nets into the lake, it might be good for a short while and we all are happy with tons of fish. Then a few years later there's no more fish left for anyone.

I'd like to hope enough in the community realize these type of game-killing antics by st1ck really are not the most longterm +EV option for anyone. Especially in a super fragile high stakes eco system in which the rare times a fish shows up, it's critical to have them not feel like they're being targeted by a 5 regs all zeroing in on them and ONLY them. All the **** he pulls drastically reduces the likelihood of repeat customers.

Like for instance I remember when dollarjim was splashing around a few months ago. He liked to take smoke breaks and would be gone literally 3 minutes. The first several times, people would all sit out then he'd come back and be like "you guys aren't all teaming up in the same room playing against me are you?!?" or stuff akin to that. Jimbo hasn't been back since he busted. Thankfully though after his first few smoke breaks more people did continue to play if he sat out but didn't leave the table cuz they started to realize "yeah he will actually be back in a few minutes." Though it really is annoying if the fish sits out, st1ck sits out, and 4 people left keeping the game going, and definitely makes me want to sit out to just as an "FU i'm not going to be the one always keeping the game going" type of statement.

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Old 07-28-2010, 02:01 PM   #25
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Ya its definitly unethical what he does...
The worst being constantly sitting in games he has no intention of playing (even once booted), just in case a fish drops in.

Basically if everyone was doing what he did, the games would be complete chaos, LHE would suffer dramatically and stars would have to do something about it.

But, what he does, despite being unethical, he does extremly well. You need crazy focus, attention, work ethic and discipline to just ALWAYS be there.

IMO, the way to combat it is a group of LHE high stakes regs sit down (like 10 of us) and say, ok , for 1 month, we all all mimic st1ckmans behaviour as much as possible. Make it so everyones pissed off, stars emails get flooded and they have to implement something to discourage it.

Until then st1ckman will have his cake and eat it too, and until a couple other players start doing it, it wont bother me too much.
In case anyone hasnt checked out the hsnl games recently this is pretty much the situation there and has been for years with dozens of people doing all of this and much worse - so you guys have it way better...

Also by comparison, it doesnt seem like there are many people at all trying to start/maintain games at 30+ and that everything just basically runs around the fish and that a lot of what stick does is pretty standard (expect for clearly unethical stuff like grimming people)? Last week i sat in a 50 game with a semi-reg fish, in which one reg was constantly berating him for the first 15 mins, then another semi-reg jonied and had a total of 4 different seats in the first 10 hands that he played, naturally ending up in the god seat. Just be happy you can still get a seat in most any game already running in no time ;-)

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