I'm not one to make light accusations/point fingers on a public forum.

That being said, it seems pretty obvious to me that Mad Haddie and SuzyLou are the same person playing on a wireless card or whatever. Haddie will continually wait for action and when he/she gets it from a fish, SuzyLou immediately sits in and they play 3 handed. This isn't a one time occurance.

I've sent stars an email, and they said they didn't have proof. I'm sure Mad Haddie learned from her mistakes at Full Tilt and is pretty good at doing the right things to make stars unable to prove it.

Today I told Muraca while he was playing them of my suspicions; as he sat out, they also sat out. They played one hand with each other later and then started chatting each other up.

Am I the only one with said suspicion? It just seems so obvious and it's pretty ridiculous that she bumhunts the stars fish with 2 accounts and gets away with it.

I haven't really kept up on the who is who in poker for a while, but I recall thinking thinking that suzy lou on stars was the same person as YoPapaya on WPX, who I am pretty sure is not a bot. With that said though, I am pretty sure YoPapaya is a woman and SillySal on WPEX is also Mad Haddie on Stars, and I know she is a girl as well so I am not sure I guess it's possible. I haven't played too much limit yet latley so I have no idea as far as the Suzy sitting in as soon as Mad Haddie gets some action.

Yah this is sketchy. I think there is a decent chance you are correct digs. One of the few hands we played 3 handed truly shocked me. Ill post it when I see how to use the hh converter thing.

so how do you know that suzy isnt just butting in on madhaddie's hu action? imo, it would be silly to have two accounts working together because it would be tough to keep the game hu. and if they were sharing hole cards you'd think that would be detected eventually ? maybe im missing the point?

PokerStars 50/100 Hold'em (3 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, A.
Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 3, 2, 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (7.75 BB) A (2 players)
Button calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
Main Pot: 8.75 BB, between Button and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (8.75 BB).

Results in white below:
Button doesn't show.
Hero has Tc Ad (two pair, aces and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.75 BB.



Button (Suzy Lou) had A5ss
I have never seen Haddie 4b check in my life...

suzy lou's actually a real person, i met her

in this case it seems like shes just looking for shorthanded limit action and haddie's games are the only ones on stars...

I agree with HIV, I just think suzy may prefer 3 way action instead of HU and may also view Haddie's games as good games multiway but not great HU.

suzy doesn't respect hu games, and sits in. end of story

i am suzylou. mad haddie and i have never met in person but we have had an online hatred for each other for about 5 years, across many sites. i play mostly heads up and short handed and she prefers heads up only. when i learned who she was on stars, i used to sometimes purposely mess up her heads up games knowing it would piss her off and it worked. then, i realized she sucks multiway and especially sucks against me (tilts), so i continued. i would also play her heads up, but she wont play me. so the only way i can play her is if someone sits in. so that explains it.

by the way, i really dont think she used a bot on full tilt, and i believe she got screwed.

this is not shocking if you know her at all. she does some goofy **** sometimes.

This thread is moronic on many levels.


I mean two women playing poker, at the same table, case closed boys.

suzylou isnt a girl, imo.

[QUOTE=Digs;5688807]I'm not one to make light accusations/point fingers on a public forum.

yet that's exactly what you did.

That explains a lot about Commerce...


Anyway, I've met suzylou irl and have done money swaps with her before. In fact she was even willing to give me cash and let me wait a few days to pay her online to see if I even needed to use it (this during the LAPC in 2007 when big LHE games were going, but not every day, so, I didn't really know whether I'd need 20k or 120k on me..and if I didn't use it, just return it to her). Based on what I know of her and what I know others think of her who actually know her, I really really doubt it is anything more going on than how she's described it in this thread.

Ok, guess it's just me.

I've never seen suzylou play in a game that haddie wasn't in.

it all just seems really fishy to me~

WPX has a player base of about 12 people, two of whom happen to play high stakes limit hold-em. Sillysal only plays heads up just like Mad Haddie (they are the same person I am pretty sure) I said I didn't think anything was up, just pointed this out in case anyone knew anything more doofus.

(quote) I've never seen suzylou play in a game that haddie wasn't in.


youre not watching very closely then.

Mad Haddie on Poker stars = PokerGirl Z/Greggo777 on FTP (Now banned) = Bernie Fife on Absolute = (Name changes on a weekly basis) but from Toulca Lake on Cake. She is highly unethical and not to be trusted. Did I also tell you that she has threatened to kill me?

-Crazy Mike

My apologies SuzyLou

[x] board with no fold equity
[ ] multi-accounting

pretty sure this is incorrect...

mad haddie only plays hu and quits everyone after like 5 hands and generally quits if a 3rd person sits, suzylou has been around for a while and used to primarily play full games, although i understand shes been playing mostly hu on ftp lately, but most likely its just a case of suzylou ****ing with mad haddie like a lot of people like to do

ive been primarily a heads up and short player on lots of sites for 5 or 6 years, not that it matters. maybe more full on stars than other sites though.

Not even sure who would care really. They both play so bad that I'd be more than happy having these 2 gorillas trying collude against me 3 handed.

Waiting for a fish to join before you sit in to play 3handed isn't that weird imo, if you dont like to play hu vs a certain player.

MadHaddie is Sillysal? Wow lol sillysall on prima too? That's one real bch if thats true !

Oh man... if SuzyLou is a man I think I had a few man dates with him at the wsop this year.

Does this make me gay?