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Old 11-25-2007, 09:58 AM   #451
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Re: DERB

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"{{Hands 73,824 - VIP 30 - R 17 - NF 21 - ag 2.0
Total winnings: $114,281 Routinely 3 bets small pocket pairs from bb, caps certainly dominated hands."

remember when you all thought this guy sucked?? now you all play like him!


It did take 2 1/2 years but this is the best post of the thread.



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Old 11-25-2007, 01:59 PM   #452
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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...page=0&vc=1

not derb, although possibly linked
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:43 PM   #453
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stigmata, in that thread you say:

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2) Andrew Prock, who started the recent "DERB" thread is part of "Project Mayhem", based in, you guessed it, Ljubljana. However, when this was pointed out to him in the DERB thread, he stopped responding.


do you have a link to that thread?
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:18 PM   #454
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Its been moved off to the archive server, pretty sure that thread was started sometime after this one, but this one has been bumped every few months and hence hasn't been moved. Archive server is obviously [censored] [censored], good luck with that....
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:27 PM   #455
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"{{Hands 73,824 - VIP 30 - R 17 - NF 21 - ag 2.0
Total winnings: $114,281 Routinely 3 bets small pocket pairs from bb, caps certainly dominated hands."

remember when you all thought this guy sucked?? now you all play like him!
Andrew Prock to james282 "Yes, this is indicative of some higher level postflop strategy of which you are not aware."
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:39 PM   #456
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were those 6max figures, or full ring?
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:12 AM   #457
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"{{Hands 73,824 - VIP 30 - R 17 - NF 21 - ag 2.0
Total winnings: $114,281 Routinely 3 bets small pocket pairs from bb, caps certainly dominated hands."

remember when you all thought this guy sucked?? now you all play like him!
Andrew Prock to james282 "Yes, this is indicative of some higher level postflop strategy of which you are not aware."
are you implying prock's statement was particularly wise or something given what we now know about high stakes lhe play? because that statement was, i believe, referring to the hand where derb overcalled the river with AJo on a completely ragged board after james 3bet him pre and bet every street into 2 players.

knowing prock, he was probably fkcing with james though.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:37 AM   #458
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were those 6max figures, or full ring?
Full ring, obv.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:42 AM   #459
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knowing prock, he was probably fkcing with james though.
aaah, i was just trying to find that other thread, and this statement leaped out of me from somewhere. I remember the hand now.

The comment just struck me as typifying Prock's bullish and combative stance from the start, which in retrospect seems possibly somewhat telling.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:55 AM   #460
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That was a fun stony moment for me. I have only been semi-active on 2+2 since like jan 06 or so when people like bicyclekick told me how cool 2+2 was and there was even this guy named Tommy Angelo that played guitar and wrote a song called slowroller.

Yeah.

Is it possible that as the game is changing a different style may be more profitable? Like, now since everybody sees 30/20/2 as excellent stats, perhaps tightening up may be more profitable since we aren't getting the fold equity as we did back then when everybody wasn't playing laggy.

Purple kush ftw.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:21 PM   #461
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Full ring, obv.
wasnt so obv when people are saying "that's how everyone plays now".

unless everyone plays 30/20 in full ring, and i just dont know it yet, since i havent played a 10 handed table in about 2 years.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:56 PM   #462
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I was saying it was obvious because no one would care about this guy if those were 6-max stats. Even a few years ago, ~30/20 wasn't considered abnormal for a winning player.

What ever happened to the whole Ljubljana stable of players?

Are they still at Party? There used to be about a dozen of these guys (with stats varying from normalish to way out of line) in the Party mid/high games a few years back.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:17 AM   #463
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Without going through the zillion threads and messages on this topic, could someone fill me in on the final consensus about DERB and did his numbers ever cool off?

Thanks
Once Party opened up the 50/100 and 100/200 tables, I remember he was roughly breakeven over a big sample in my database at those limits. It's been awhile(2 years?) so I could be misremembering.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:05 AM   #464
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Doughnutz from stars 100/200 is the new derb.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:32 AM   #465
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:41 AM   #466
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Bumping for upgrade.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:01 PM   #467
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Jesus, is it really [censored] sad that i'm feeling nostalgic looking at this thread?
I feel the same way. Fond memories of playing DERB. My girlfriend was looking over my shoulder when I opened this thread, and she even remembers me talking about DERB.
Dude was ****ing hard to play against. Can someone who played then and still plays now tell me how true it actually is that everyone plays like DERB now? I haven't played a hand of limit in over a year.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:38 PM   #468
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Are you sure you weren't thinking of durrrrb?

I hear he doesn't ever run bad.
God this thread is hilarious. Shame the mods removed the picture of derb.

This then followed, which is beyond immense. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...conspiracy-61/
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:11 PM   #469
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This is one of my favorite all-time threads. I even wrote a short story for one of my college classes loosely based on the DERB myth/magic.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:19 PM   #470
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I remember Hasuwisp on party being the guy who everyone said sucked because he was 3 betting small pairs from the blinds. Some time later people were like, "Wow, look at this guy's results... He must have a plan doing all this crazy ****".

Then people got a bunch better at lhe. I was a bit under the curve at that time and to this day I regret not studying while the games were golden, as I bet many other people in this forum do.

Seems like the people who worked hard, even when they were already destroying the games, really prospered...

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Old 12-10-2009, 07:22 PM   #471
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Doughnutz from stars 100/200 is the new derb.
not at all
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:30 PM   #472
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I feel the same way. Fond memories of playing DERB. My girlfriend was looking over my shoulder when I opened this thread, and she even remembers me talking about DERB.
Dude was ****ing hard to play against. Can someone who played then and still plays now tell me how true it actually is that everyone plays like DERB now? I haven't played a hand of limit in over a year.
I played few hands with him but I would say that the big winners at the same stakes are actually much tougher now.

You stopping home anytime soon ike? Tom and I would certainly be down to get schooled in some 2v2s like the old days haha... Although tbh, I think Tom and I may be able to give you and elmo a decent match in the current format...
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:59 PM   #473
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it's fun to read all the old posts in this thread

ty for the bump
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:57 PM   #474
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crazy how spot on andrew prock was, he owned the thread so hard when u go back and look at it
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:21 PM   #475
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God I wish some of those old school guys would come back and tell us what they're doing now and, if they're still playing, how they think of the game now as opposed to then.
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