lol, can someone else play these out for me. i want to kill myself.

Gl the rest of the night, there are a few hands that i would like some more info on, but for right now, play solid and win monies!

just post them here right now. i have like 4 open and i'm feeling very very depressed.

i'd love to respond right now, i have been ridiculously focused all day.

This!

PokerStars Game #47547573312: Tournament #323011126, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2010/07/31 21:03:30 PT [2010/08/01 0:03:30 ET]
Table '323011126 15' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: YouHave2outs (1697 in chips)
Seat 2: tiger604 (4150 in chips)
Seat 3: pagubosu77 (5484 in chips)
Seat 4: swampguinnie (19512 in chips)
Seat 5: QcKimo (6648 in chips)
Seat 6: ComeBackMax (14150 in chips)
YouHave2outs: posts the ante 25
tiger604: posts the ante 25
pagubosu77: posts the ante 25
swampguinnie: posts the ante 25
QcKimo: posts the ante 25
ComeBackMax: posts the ante 25
tiger604: posts small blind 125
pagubosu77: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [8h 6c]
swampguinnie: folds
QcKimo: folds
ComeBackMax: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 1422 to 1672 and is all-in
tiger604: raises 2453 to 4125 and is all-in
pagubosu77: folds
Uncalled bet (2453) returned to tiger604
*** FLOP *** [2c 5h 5c]
*** TURN *** [2c 5h 5c] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [2c 5h 5c Ac] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tiger604: shows [Ad 8c] (a flush, Ace high)
YouHave2outs: shows [8h 6c] (a flush, Ace high - lower cards)
tiger604 collected 3744 from pot
YouHave2outs finished the tournament in 48th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3744 | Rake 0
Board [2c 5h 5c Ac 3c]
Seat 1: YouHave2outs (button) showed [8h 6c] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: tiger604 (small blind) showed [Ad 8c] and won (3744) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: pagubosu77 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: swampguinnie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: QcKimo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ComeBackMax folded before Flop (didn't bet)

109 exit.

if anyone has serious questions on how to run into it every time you shove when shoving unexploitable ranges, with free advice on how to never win pots, i think i can charge a hefty penny for that. i've proven i can do it

POST THEM HERE RIGHT NOW

PokerStars Game #47547626655: Tournament #294420780, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2010/07/31 21:04:57 PT [2010/08/01 0:04:57 ET]
Table '294420780 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: hakama7 (7077 in chips)
Seat 2: Drunk dealer (14465 in chips)
Seat 4: camoflge (12602 in chips)
Seat 5: YouHave2outs (15850 in chips)
Seat 6: crazy169 (14618 in chips)
hakama7: posts the ante 25
Drunk dealer: posts the ante 25
camoflge: posts the ante 25
YouHave2outs: posts the ante 25
crazy169: posts the ante 25
crazy169: posts small blind 60
hakama7: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [9c 7s]
Drunk dealer: folds
camoflge: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 120 to 240
crazy169: folds
hakama7: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [3h 7d 8d]
hakama7: checks
YouHave2outs: checks
*** TURN *** [3h 7d 8d] [8s]
hakama7: checks
YouHave2outs: bets 240
hakama7: calls 240
*** RIVER *** [3h 7d 8d 8s] [Qc]
hakama7: checks
YouHave2outs: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hakama7: shows [Qd 6s] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
YouHave2outs: mucks hand
hakama7 collected 1145 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1145 | Rake 0
Board [3h 7d 8d 8s Qc]
Seat 1: hakama7 (big blind) showed [Qd 6s] and won (1145) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 2: Drunk dealer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: camoflge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: YouHave2outs (button) mucked [9c 7s]
Seat 6: crazy169 (small blind) folded before Flop

it really doesn't matter what play i make at all

i'm interested in the standard spots that you guys are questioning....all my preflop shoves have been beyond standard

No need for that right now, ill mention it after todays package is over.

PokerStars Game #47547730446: Tournament #323011166, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/07/31 21:09:47 PT [2010/08/01 0:09:47 ET]
Table '323011166 30' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: relaedmb (3050 in chips)
Seat 2: vantura200ca (3096 in chips)
Seat 3: YouHave2outs (5095 in chips)
Seat 4: heavykiddy (2850 in chips)
Seat 5: hooch3372 (2675 in chips)
Seat 6: scddkim (2396 in chips)
Seat 7: seville fc (1850 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: SKIPJACK2 (2877 in chips)
Seat 9: Spinelock (6730 in chips)
SKIPJACK2: posts small blind 75
Spinelock: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [As Qc]
relaedmb: folds
vantura200ca: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 150 to 300
heavykiddy: folds
hooch3372: folds
scddkim: raises 2096 to 2396 and is all-in
seville fc: folds
SKIPJACK2: folds
Spinelock: folds
YouHave2outs: calls 2096
*** FLOP *** [Ts 6d Js]
*** TURN *** [Ts 6d Js] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 6d Js Ad] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YouHave2outs: shows [As Qc] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
scddkim: shows [Td Th] (a full house, Tens full of Sixes)
scddkim collected 5017 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5017 | Rake 0
Board [Ts 6d Js Ad 6c]
Seat 1: relaedmb folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vantura200ca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: YouHave2outs showed [As Qc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 4: heavykiddy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hooch3372 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: scddkim showed [Td Th] and won (5017) with a full house, Tens full of Sixes
Seat 7: seville fc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SKIPJACK2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Spinelock (big blind) folded before Flop

i have 3 open and will play perfectly. please post them here right now, it's really annoying to be called out like that and then have you say you're going to wait til after.

it's not going to affect anythign i do in these last 3 tournaments.

in fact after these tournaments the last thing im going to want to do is think about poker. this game has been the stupidest thing i could ever decide to do in life for the past month.

i mean forget about today, i've lost flips at my last like 10 final tables that were huge 1sts, bubbled fts with dominations multiple times for 2x average and just on and on and on. if i had run good in one single tournament of the 20 i've been final two tables in in the past month, i could laugh my ass off at today's run bad

qk<99 all in pre to exit 109 2x chance for 5k+ pot.

i had a chance when the flop was kxx

but the turn was a 9. it was kinda expected, but i almost thought i'd win that one.

two open now bazuko, care to elaborate on my questionable (in ur opinion) spots?

i suppose i could just nit ridiculously until i have 4bb in all my tournaments and then i wouldn't have a questionable spot.....i seriously feel like all this selling shares stuff and running bad at beginnings of the day is affecting my play.

but losing every pot does not help

regulars jam 10k in with k4o at 300/600 in super tuesday from the button and no one questions their unexploitable range. no really, k4o, 6.8m, on the button, open shove, top top top top regular.

people also complained in 10k buy in wcoop when djk123 jams q6ss with 6m into stacks that all are at least 5m from hijack-1

i'm just hoping these questions are more about the way i played hands postflop than my absolute standard preflop jams where i consistently ran into premiums against people who had ridic nitty call ranges

What about that Q10 shove with 16bb, standard? Dont think any one is trying to attack you btw

exactly the kind of questions i'm not trying to field.

unreasonably standard by any account. ridiculously standard, and i go by m when i shove, not bb, that's the only way you can do the math correctly when antes are in play. my m was just under 10, and that's an extremely standard shove as part of an unexploitable range from the button. in a vaccuum, it's very close, but as part of an unexploitable range i can shove far far far far worse. you can find the math on lots of websites

it's prob unreasonably +ev given how tight he was going to call there.

edit: in that spot to be perfectly honest qto is near bottom of my range. i probably jam 89s+, JTo+, Ax, any pair, maybe k9, k8s, stuff like that. but i can shove far worse and show a longrun profit vs anyone, as the range would be literally unexploitable from the button given stack sizes.

bigboy, i would ask if you suggest that i get exploited by a plan to min open/fold to a shove or just open fold? those are both way worse than shoving

good luck tomorrow man gogogo tomorrow!!!

just cuz i've lost a lot of your money today and i feel like a piece of crap i'm going to post math to why that QTo shove is easily +ev if not optimal

edit: bigboy tell me what range the sb and bb are calling with when i shove my 16bbs in there, so i can do the math with ur assigned ranges.

i'm assuming by the fact that you don't think i should be shoving QTo that the calling ranges you assign will be very nitty.

I didnt looks over all the HHs. But the ones i noticed were the following:

Hand 1) I think I like raising here better, i dont think there is any need to just shove, i can see it with a smaller stack though.wkword411: posts small blind 1000

SlAsH_GH331: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [Js Kh]
echtschlecht: folds
woyakko: folds
celera: folds
2royalsfrush: folds
tikisb81: folds
Xx_ooowee_xX: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 39965 to 41965 and is all-in
awkword411: folds
SlAsH_GH331: calls 39965
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d 8d]
*** TURN *** [9d 7d 8d] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d 8d 5h] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SlAsH_GH331: shows [Qd Kd] (a flush, King high)
YouHave2outs: shows [Js Kh] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
SlAsH_GH331 collected 86730 from pot
YouHave2outs finished the tournament in 752nd place and received $19.92.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 86730 | Rake 0


Hand 2) not a fan of this one either, he is raising 4x pre, with his stack size, i just dont think there is enough fold equity.

Mr.Seminice: posts small blind 150
YouHave2outs: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [9s Kd]
2Omerta: folds
dapaca: folds
wagnercs: folds
paddyjam: folds
100Kneeded: folds
FaulkDogg: folds
Mr.Seminice: raises 900 to 1200
YouHave2outs: raises 2648 to 3848 and is all-in
Mr.Seminice: calls 2648
*** FLOP *** [7c Qh 3h]
*** TURN *** [7c Qh 3h] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [7c Qh 3h 9h] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mr.Seminice: shows [Ah 6h] (a flush, Ace high)
YouHave2outs: shows [9s Kd] (a pair of Nines)
Mr.Seminice collected 7896 from pot
YouHave2outs finished the tournament in 156th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7896 | Rake 0
Board [7c Qh 3h 9h Jh]


Hand 3) Even though he just folded last hand, i think is more of a reason to shove a "bit" tigther range here" 67s, Ax any pair obv, prob Qx+ Just dont feel like its a very good shove, having said that, him calling with J6o is pretty ridiculous

Mr Tty: posts the ante 100
YouHave2outs: posts small blind 500
erkut00: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [3c 6h]
str8upnuts: folds
cabbie182: folds
Mr Tty: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 7000 to 8000
erkut00: calls 6170 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (830) returned to YouHave2outs
*** FLOP *** [Qc 4c Ks]
*** TURN *** [Qc 4c Ks] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 4c Ks Js] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YouHave2outs: shows [3c 6h] (high card King)
erkut00: shows [6c Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
erkut00 collected 14840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14840 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 4c Ks Js Th]
Seat 1: YouHave2outs (small blind) showed [3c 6h] and lost with high card King
Seat 2: erkut00 (big blind) showed [6c Jd] and won (14840) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: str8upnuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cabbie182 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mr Tty (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Hand 4) I dont like limp caling this oop, if anything raise fold pre.

* HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [5d Qd]
hakama7: folds
Drunk dealer: folds
camoflge: folds
YouHave2outs: calls 150
crazy169: raises 357 to 657
YouHave2outs: calls 357
*** FLOP *** [Td 4d Ac]
YouHave2outs: checks
crazy169: bets 726
YouHave2outs: calls 726
*** TURN *** [Td 4d Ac] [7s]
YouHave2outs: checks
crazy169: checks
*** RIVER *** [Td 4d Ac 7s] [7c]
YouHave2outs: bets 1800
crazy169: calls 1800
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YouHave2outs: shows [5d Qd] (a pair of Sevens)
crazy169: shows [Kh 2s] (a pair of Sevens - Ace+King kicker)
crazy169 collected 6666 from pot

Hand 5) I think you have plenty of room to wait for a better spot, I personally dont mind passing up these marginally +Ev shoves and open shove in late position.
Mr Tty: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [Tc Qd]
YouHave2outs: raises 18296 to 19496 and is all-in
cabbie182: folds
Mr Tty: calls 18296
*** FLOP *** [8d 6s Kc]
*** TURN *** [8d 6s Kc] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [8d 6s Kc 9h] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mr Tty: shows [Ad Kh] (a pair of Kings)
YouHave2outs: shows [Tc Qd] (a pair of Tens)
Mr Tty collected 39967 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39967 | Rake 0
Board [8d 6s Kc 9h Td]
Seat 1: YouHave2outs (button) showed [Tc Qd] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: cabbie182 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Mr Tty (big blind) showed [Ad Kh] and won (39967) with a pair of Kings

Hand 6) Super uber deep, i just dont see why shove is necessary
PokerStars Game #47547766826: Tournament #294420780, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (80/160) - 2010/08/01 0:10:34 ET
Table '294420780 4' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: crazy169 (14076 in chips)
Seat 2: YouHave2outs (22842 in chips)
Seat 4: cchekas (6120 in chips)
Seat 5: Cesar629 (14380 in chips)
Seat 6: clm0220 (20311 in chips)
crazy169: posts the ante 30
YouHave2outs: posts the ante 30
cchekas: posts the ante 30
Cesar629: posts the ante 30
clm0220: posts the ante 30
crazy169: posts small blind 80
YouHave2outs: posts big blind 160
*** HOLE CARDS ***
cchekas: calls 160
Cesar629: raises 160 to 320
clm0220: calls 320
crazy169: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 22492 to 22812 and is all-in
cchekas: folds
Cesar629: folds
clm0220: folds
Uncalled bet (22492) returned to YouHave2outs
YouHave2outs collected 1350 from pot
YouHave2outs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1350 | Rake 0
Seat 1: crazy169 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: YouHave2outs (big blind) collected (1350)
Seat 4: cchekas folded before Flop
Seat 5: Cesar629 folded before Flop
Seat 6: clm0220 (button) folded before Flop

I think thats about it, again, that is just my opinion, so lets just try to keep it all in a constructive criticism type context. Hugo.

I watched your table for a little bit, so given your table image.
A8+
K10+
44+

I mean your probably right, was justr curious man

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.751% 32.42% 00.33% 572867676 5880990.00 { QTo }
Hand 1: 67.249% 66.92% 00.33% 1182468072 5880990.00 { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }

if this is their calling range i'm showing ABSURD amounts of profit by shoving QTo here, i hope i don't have to do further math based on a 7.2% villain call rate with two villains left to act when i have 33% equity vs their range. it folds around over 86% of the time given this call range + i win 1/3 of the time when they call + m is 10 = profit

basically it comes down to 86% of the time i win 1 unit of m, .0938 of the time or 9.38 i lose my stack, and .0466 or 4.66% i double.

if you do the math i win .388m every single time i jam, which turns out to be about a 4% stack increase on average by making this shove, so it's a ridiculously profitable shove.

it is not at all offset by the fact that i exit almost 10% of the time, as my stack is nowhere near average when i shove anyways. i need lots more chips to get back into contention to make a run at top 2 at all.

Think he calls with those given your table image, could be way wrong, just trying to be contructive

okay will redo math with that hilarious range in a second, but calling 44 is suicidal, and kt is ridic bad too...i don't get how you can say my qt shove is bad but calling my shove with kt is good...can you explain that?