SlAsH_GH331: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [Js Kh]
echtschlecht: folds
woyakko: folds
celera: folds
2royalsfrush: folds
tikisb81: folds
Xx_ooowee_xX: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 39965 to 41965 and is all-in
awkword411: folds
SlAsH_GH331: calls 39965
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d 8d]
*** TURN *** [9d 7d 8d] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d 8d 5h] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SlAsH_GH331: shows [Qd Kd] (a flush, King high)
YouHave2outs: shows [Js Kh] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
SlAsH_GH331 collected 86730 from pot
YouHave2outs finished the tournament in 752nd place and received $19.92.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 86730 | Rake 0

the shove is literally unexploitable, i.e. i can flip my hand face up and they cannot profit vs the shove. i guess you could argue that it's not optimal, but vs the morons in 3r i do not like raise/folding as they can shove a ridic wide range and exploit me without even realizing that their play is profitable.

the nits will fold small aces and pairs, making my shove even more profitable, as it is already unexploitable

but i think he calls off light given table dynamics

Mr.Seminice: posts small blind 150
YouHave2outs: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [9s Kd]
2Omerta: folds
dapaca: folds
wagnercs: folds
paddyjam: folds
100Kneeded: folds
FaulkDogg: folds
Mr.Seminice: raises 900 to 1200
YouHave2outs: raises 2648 to 3848 and is all-in
Mr.Seminice: calls 2648
*** FLOP *** [7c Qh 3h]
*** TURN *** [7c Qh 3h] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [7c Qh 3h 9h] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mr.Seminice: shows [Ah 6h] (a flush, Ace high)
YouHave2outs: shows [9s Kd] (a pair of Nines)
Mr.Seminice collected 7896 from pot
YouHave2outs finished the tournament in 156th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7896 | Rake 0
Board [7c Qh 3h 9h Jh]

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.879% 48.96% 01.92% 6488738820 254384010.00 { K9o }
Hand 1: 49.121% 47.20% 01.92% 6255726120 254384010.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q5s+, J6s+, T7s+, 96s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 86o+, 76o }

that guy was a solid player, should be getting it in very loose, i don't need any percent of fold equity to make the shove and was not accounting for any. fold equity is a bonus in that spot. i can't get exploited by folding this hand.

you dont think he calls off light given his stack size and your table image, just trying be construtvie/learn, but obe he folds k10 a lot I mean

Hand 3) Even though he just folded last hand, i think is more of a reason to shove a "bit" tigther range here" 67s, Ax any pair obv, prob Qx+ Just dont feel like its a very good shove, having said that, him calling with J6o is pretty ridiculous

Mr Tty: posts the ante 100
YouHave2outs: posts small blind 500
erkut00: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [3c 6h]
str8upnuts: folds
cabbie182: folds
Mr Tty: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 7000 to 8000
erkut00: calls 6170 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (830) returned to YouHave2outs
*** FLOP *** [Qc 4c Ks]
*** TURN *** [Qc 4c Ks] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 4c Ks Js] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YouHave2outs: shows [3c 6h] (high card King)
erkut00: shows [6c Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
erkut00 collected 14840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14840 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 4c Ks Js Th]
Seat 1: YouHave2outs (small blind) showed [3c 6h] and lost with high card King
Seat 2: erkut00 (big blind) showed [6c Jd] and won (14840) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: str8upnuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cabbie182 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mr Tty (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i think its awful if i fold, and i don't even think this spot is that close. if someone else has a problem with this, let me know

* HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [5d Qd]
hakama7: folds
Drunk dealer: folds
camoflge: folds
YouHave2outs: calls 150
crazy169: raises 357 to 657
YouHave2outs: calls 357
*** FLOP *** [Td 4d Ac]
YouHave2outs: checks
crazy169: bets 726
YouHave2outs: calls 726
*** TURN *** [Td 4d Ac] [7s]
YouHave2outs: checks
crazy169: checks
*** RIVER *** [Td 4d Ac 7s] [7c]
YouHave2outs: bets 1800
crazy169: calls 1800
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YouHave2outs: shows [5d Qd] (a pair of Sevens)
crazy169: shows [Kh 2s] (a pair of Sevens - Ace+King kicker)
crazy169 collected 6666 from pot

limp call could be bad, but if he's raising k2o on my limps i can rape him by limp calling a wide range.

PokerStars Game #47548410077: Tournament #323011166, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2010/07/31 21:39:41 PT [2010/08/01 0:39:41 ET]
Table '323011166 30' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: relaedmb (6300 in chips)
Seat 2: vantura200ca (2046 in chips)
Seat 3: YouHave2outs (2734 in chips)
Seat 4: heavykiddy (3773 in chips)
Seat 5: Cho1ce (5025 in chips)
Seat 6: scddkim (9584 in chips)
Seat 7: Louis Dubois (11705 in chips)
Seat 8: BriN1285 (3260 in chips)
Seat 9: Spinelock (4330 in chips)
relaedmb: posts the ante 25
vantura200ca: posts the ante 25
YouHave2outs: posts the ante 25
heavykiddy: posts the ante 25
Cho1ce: posts the ante 25
scddkim: posts the ante 25
Louis Dubois: posts the ante 25
BriN1285: posts the ante 25
Spinelock: posts the ante 25
YouHave2outs: posts small blind 125
heavykiddy: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [Jh Js]
Cho1ce: folds
scddkim: folds
Louis Dubois: folds
BriN1285: raises 2985 to 3235 and is all-in
Spinelock: folds
relaedmb: folds
vantura200ca: folds
YouHave2outs: calls 2584 and is all-in
heavykiddy: folds
Uncalled bet (526) returned to BriN1285
*** FLOP *** [Kd 6h Kc]
*** TURN *** [Kd 6h Kc] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 6h Kc 6s] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YouHave2outs: shows [Jh Js] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
BriN1285: shows [Ad Kh] (a full house, Kings full of Sixes)
BriN1285 collected 5893 from pot
YouHave2outs finished the tournament in 301st place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5893 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 6h Kc 6s 7d]
Seat 1: relaedmb folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vantura200ca (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: YouHave2outs (small blind) showed [Jh Js] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 4: heavykiddy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Cho1ce folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: scddkim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Louis Dubois folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BriN1285 showed [Ad Kh] and won (5893) with a full house, Kings full of Sixes
Seat 9: Spinelock folded before Flop (didn't bet)

just for fun while we're talkin

i think if he calls the range you said that i still win money longrun, im gonna do math soon.

Hand 5) I think you have plenty of room to wait for a better spot, I personally dont mind passing up these marginally +Ev shoves and open shove in late position.
Mr Tty: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [Tc Qd]
YouHave2outs: raises 18296 to 19496 and is all-in
cabbie182: folds
Mr Tty: calls 18296
*** FLOP *** [8d 6s Kc]
*** TURN *** [8d 6s Kc] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [8d 6s Kc 9h] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mr Tty: shows [Ad Kh] (a pair of Kings)
YouHave2outs: shows [Tc Qd] (a pair of Tens)
Mr Tty collected 39967 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39967 | Rake 0
Board [8d 6s Kc 9h Td]
Seat 1: YouHave2outs (button) showed [Tc Qd] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: cabbie182 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Mr Tty (big blind) showed [Ad Kh] and won (39967) with a pair of Kings

this is when i tend to stop responding, as this shove is BEYOND standard.

Hand 6) Super uber deep, i just dont see why shove is necessary
PokerStars Game #47547766826: Tournament #294420780, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (80/160) - 2010/08/01 0:10:34 ET
Table '294420780 4' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: crazy169 (14076 in chips)
Seat 2: YouHave2outs (22842 in chips)
Seat 4: cchekas (6120 in chips)
Seat 5: Cesar629 (14380 in chips)
Seat 6: clm0220 (20311 in chips)
crazy169: posts the ante 30
YouHave2outs: posts the ante 30
cchekas: posts the ante 30
Cesar629: posts the ante 30
clm0220: posts the ante 30
crazy169: posts small blind 80
YouHave2outs: posts big blind 160
*** HOLE CARDS ***
cchekas: calls 160
Cesar629: raises 160 to 320
clm0220: calls 320
crazy169: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 22492 to 22812 and is all-in
cchekas: folds
Cesar629: folds
clm0220: folds
Uncalled bet (22492) returned to YouHave2outs
YouHave2outs collected 1350 from pot
YouHave2outs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1350 | Rake 0
Seat 1: crazy169 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: YouHave2outs (big blind) collected (1350)
Seat 4: cchekas folded before Flop
Seat 5: Cesar629 folded before Flop
Seat 6: clm0220 (button) folded before Flop

shows tons of ev in a vaccuum vs their open ranges and calling ranges and how little i win by 3betting in the longrun. vs good players i would never make this play, vs idiots who are opening every hand and want to get it in i show a ton of ev by shoving AKss there, which is what i had.

How shoving this, ever profitable, specially wiith people behind

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.106% 34.63% 00.48% 1337619612 18510894.00 { QTo }
Hand 1: 64.894% 64.41% 00.48% 2488316424 18510894.00 { 44+, A8s+, KTs+, A8o+, KTo+ }

now they call 15.8 and i have 35%, this makes it much closer.

it folds around 71%, so .71 i gain 1 unit of m, and my is 10.

10.3% of the time i lose my stack.

5.53% i double.

5.53x10 - 10.3x10 +71x1...........means i'm winning .23 units of m on my shove still given this call range if i shove QTo at 10m from button.

cuz like you said, people call me with KT given table dynamics and given they are fish. have you not seen some of the hhs ive posted in the rebuys...jesus christ. i had AKss...with pair blockers they wake up with kk+ like 1.5% at most, and if they call even just AQ i profit longrun....i don't get why you guys don't do math?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.152% 42.62% 08.53% 148884264 29794920.00 { AKs }
Hand 1: 48.848% 40.32% 08.53% 140835912 29794920.00 { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }

so even if that's the only worst hand they call, and they call pairs down to 9, i win money with no fold equity....

it's hard to keep responding to this stuff to be honest when i've run this bad all day and everything i've posted is blatantly mathematically sound. this is why i guess i shouldn't really sell shares anymore, like i said it just makes me nit even MORE than i should. if anything, i should be looser than i have been today. not tighter.

Thats why i didnt want to post it right away, but you were insistent.Quick question, in your opinon, have you played every hand/shove perfect, or are there any iffy hands u are unsure about? again im just trying to engage a contrusctive discussion. Since i obv would not invest in you, if i thought it was -EV.

I mean you saying in the long run you are more profitable shoving 100bb+ rather than reraising and playing post flop poker?

Either way, good luck with the rest of the package!

and gl at the FT!!! win that 1st ooops its 6 max lol, im tired

um, i played one hand really bad vs a reg with qq earlier. that's the only blatant mistake i can say i made.

i would honestly say that all of my shove/fold spots have been played nearly perfectly. i played 180s for a living for the last 6 months, and i think i am easily one of the top turbo players. like i said, if anything i should be shoving wider. shoving way wider is still unexploitable, but the reason i don't shove this wide is because vs the fish you in a lot of these tournaments these shove ranges simply aren't optimal.

i am very very very very very very very confident in all of my shove/fold ranges. the fact of the matter is that shoving such wide ranges is more +ev but also comes with more variance. the fact that i've run so bad not only over this package but over several packages i have sold on 2p2 has caused me to nit up in some spots where i would normally shove.

one example is honestly that q5dd. that guy was a moron, i thought he would jam wide vs my open so i limp/called cuz i also thought he would 3x a ridiculously wide range, and i could outplay him post and get good value if i flopped anything whatsoever. this is evidenced by the fact that i could have gotten 3 streets of value with a single pair, as he called k2o k high on the river. i think i just need to stop questioning myself based on what i think shareholders will say if i show down a hand that i know the shove was +ev on.

if i open what am i opening to?

if they shove am i folding?

vs players that are reasonable at all, they will come over the top of me with a reasonably wide range. so if i fold qto here to their shove when i am putting in 1/9th of my stack with my open, then i need like 40% equity to call and should be basically calling vs anything but the nittiest ranges.

for this reason opening and folding is awful. open/call is better than open/fold imo.

like i showed, even if they only shove over me with really nitty stuff then ill have 35% equity, which would be a fold....so if i know theyre only shoving over 44+, a8+, kt+ i can confidently open and fold to their shoves, BUT THAT ALSO ASSUMES THEY NEVER FLAT.

at the same time, even if they never flat, i have to be calling their shove with QTo if they even have rejam range such as

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.664% 37.86% 01.81% 2683592652 128171556.00 { QTo }
Hand 1: 60.336% 58.53% 01.81% 4149002796 128171556.00 { 22+, A2s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

if they rejam wider, i'm getting exploited/raped and lots rejam lots of suited connectors, especially when theyre trying to icm rape me o nthe bubble

im just gonna win this 6max and win a lot tomorrow. im sick of talking poker for now, but if there are any other legit concerns on the hands from other stakeholders feel free to pm me or post them here and i'll get back to you.

PokerStars Game #47549092351: Tournament #294420780, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (250/500) - 2010/07/31 22:13:12 PT [2010/08/01 1:13:12 ET]
Table '294420780 4' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: crazy169 (32079 in chips)
Seat 2: YouHave2outs (15599 in chips)
Seat 3: CSCAGLIONE (24777 in chips)
Seat 4: cchekas (15005 in chips)
Seat 5: Tobry7 (39740 in chips)
Seat 6: asitshouldbe (49800 in chips)
crazy169: posts the ante 100
YouHave2outs: posts the ante 100
CSCAGLIONE: posts the ante 100
cchekas: posts the ante 100
Tobry7: posts the ante 100
asitshouldbe: posts the ante 100
Tobry7: posts small blind 250
asitshouldbe: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [Js As]
crazy169: folds
YouHave2outs: raises 500 to 1000
CSCAGLIONE: folds
cchekas: folds
Tobry7: calls 750
asitshouldbe: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [8d 9d 5s]
Tobry7: checks
asitshouldbe: checks
YouHave2outs: checks
*** TURN *** [8d 9d 5s] [6c]
Tobry7: checks
asitshouldbe: bets 1500
YouHave2outs: folds
Tobry7: calls 1500
*** RIVER *** [8d 9d 5s 6c] [Kh]
Tobry7: checks
asitshouldbe: bets 4000
Tobry7: calls 4000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
asitshouldbe: shows [8c 9c] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Tobry7: shows [Kd 6d] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
Tobry7 collected 14600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14600 | Rake 0
Board [8d 9d 5s 6c Kh]
Seat 1: crazy169 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: YouHave2outs folded on the Turn
Seat 3: CSCAGLIONE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cchekas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tobry7 (small blind) showed [Kd 6d] and won (14600) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 6: asitshouldbe (big blind) showed [8c 9c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights

didn't read this right at first.

by no means do i feel i've played every hand perfect whatsoever. i'm open to any and all criticism regarding the way i played hands.

i do, however, feel that all of my open shoves were perfect.

PokerStars Game #47549514294: Tournament #294420780, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2010/07/31 22:35:03 PT [2010/08/01 1:35:03 ET]
Table '294420780 4' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: crazy169 (28751 in chips)
Seat 2: YouHave2outs (24463 in chips)
Seat 3: CSCAGLIONE (27231 in chips)
Seat 4: cchekas (7780 in chips)
Seat 5: Tobry7 (48700 in chips)
Seat 6: asitshouldbe (40075 in chips)
crazy169: posts the ante 140
YouHave2outs: posts the ante 140
CSCAGLIONE: posts the ante 140
cchekas: posts the ante 140
Tobry7: posts the ante 140
asitshouldbe: posts the ante 140
crazy169: posts small blind 350
YouHave2outs: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to YouHave2outs [8h 8d]
CSCAGLIONE: folds
cchekas: raises 6940 to 7640 and is all-in
Tobry7: folds
asitshouldbe: calls 7640
crazy169: folds
YouHave2outs: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c Ks Kh]
*** TURN *** [8c Ks Kh] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [8c Ks Kh 3d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cchekas: shows [Qc Qs] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
asitshouldbe: shows [As 3s] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
cchekas collected 17170 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17170 | Rake 0
Board [8c Ks Kh 3d 2h]
Seat 1: crazy169 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: YouHave2outs (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: CSCAGLIONE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cchekas showed [Qc Qs] and won (17170) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 5: Tobry7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: asitshouldbe (button) showed [As 3s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes

we'd be talking about a little run good if a3ss learned how to fold a hand ever.