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Originally Posted by BobDobalina
It is completely different from Qx/9x because in addition to Alvarado having more combos as you mentioned, he has to fade 25 percent equity(more likely 36 percent + equity) even if 22 is currently the best made hand. Further, I don't get your point about him not being able to vbet river thinkly enough because his turn bet's value range is KQ+(never betting a nine w/ this stack depth and two shortys w/ 1/3 of PrtyPSux and Europeans stacks). All KQ+ hands are definitely value betting river as well.
I agree that it's spot where ppl usually check back hands worse than Q with good kicker but if he's good he will bet turn some% of time with JJ/TT/big nine keeping his valuerange wider so he can bluff more and protect against draws.
€urop€an checks river really really often when turn goes bet-call so he has the option to check back some of his range and bet big hands / pure bluffs (didnt this time). €urop€an is like never check raising turn on that board so I much rather keep the initiative. If his turn checkback range is mostly give ups / weakish value hands river play is tough against good opponent like in this case.
Edit: I understand the point / case for potcontrolling (IMC yo) but if you check back turn you're probably facing a bet on river pretty often on river which makes your life hard with weakish range.
English is not my native language so not really easy to explain my though process here.
I hope 2012 comments his though process during this hand. Pretty interesting spot / line.