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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Mike that AJ hand is a shove pre.
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Why is the AJ hand a shove preflop LO? I mean if the blinds were bigger, or if villains stack size 3 to 6 x BB smaller, I could see a case for shoving preflop. Also the villain was fairly tight, and hadnt gotten out of line, and I had seen him at other final tables before, where again he had played solid, and hadnt gotten out of line.
I just didnt see villain raising anything less then the following range 85% of the time, under gun:
88,99, TT, JJ,QQ,KK,AA.AT suited,AJ,AQ,AK.
AJ doesnt fare well vs that range. I was pretty sure I had the worst hand preflop. But the reason why I flat called is: that even if I have to fold postflop, I am only out 10k, whereas if A or a J hits the flop, there is a decent chance that postflop of mine might probably be good.as long as villian has 88,99,TT. And even if villian has JJ,QQ,KK, if a A hits the board postflop, I can still win that way, as long as villain doesnt have AK,AQ.
And with the blinds and antes and being the tourney chip leader at 108k chips with blinds 2k/4k, and with me on the blinds, I think AJ is just barely a good enough hand, that I just dont see how I can fold preflop vs a 2.5 x BB raise to 10k
So if my hand is not good enough vs villains range most of the time to shove, and if my hand is just barely good enough to NOT fold vs a 2.5 BB raise to 10k
Then that only leaves minreraising, which would be bad, because then villain is gona reraise all in most likely, or flat call, and then I would be pot commited.
And the only other thing left to do by process of elimination, is flat calling and hope for the best postflop.
So to me flat calling is better then minreraising, which is better then shoving, which is better then folding.
The only way I could advocate shoving, is if I have enough table tight image fold equity, to cause villain to fold preflop.
But with villains range, I dont think villain folds to a reraise shove. And even if villains range is slightly barely wider, without knowing that, I dont think villain would fold because he is almost pot committed.
The only way I shove here is if either I thinki he will fold, or if I think I have a good chance to be flipping.
But I dont think he would fold, and I would be flipping in the extreme best case scenario at extreme best.
So thats my case as to why I wouldnt shove.
But maybe I am overlooking something.
So I would like to know why you think I should shove, and for you to make your case LO.
This was just a really borderline tricky situation.
anyways thanks for your help support, comments LO
Last edited by Mikeal_DH; 08-31-2011 at 07:39 AM.