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08-25-2011 , 12:16 AM
Hi all this is MIkeDH. Me and Dwiele entered a staking arrangement agreement, and so I am posting this rail thread to maintain openess and transparency through out the duration of the stake.


Staker: Dwiele Stakee: Mike DH


Stake amount: $100 on MINT poker a skin on the everleaf network


Split: 85% to the staker, and 15% to stakee, after stakeback to the staker.


Stake terms:


Stake is to be dispersed to stakee, in 2 $50 amounts. After the first $50 amount is played, then when staker is satisfied, the 2nd $50 will be dispersed to stakee. when that amount and previous amounts have been played, syaked back to staker, and profits after stakeback split according to the split terms, the staker, and stakee have the option of instead of ending stake, continuing stake by having stakee use tourney cashed profits after stakeback, to continue playing,grinding up a bankroll, until staker,stakee, want to stop, at which time the profits will be split 85/15 according to the split terms above.


What is to be played with the stake: 50 cent to $1.50 SNG's and MTT's using a 65 to 125 buy in good bankroll management.


ocasional $2 to $4 shots will only be allowed per staker permission.


Stakee is to let the staker know by this rail thread and skype,email,messenger once a week, what games have been played, and the results.


Rakeback: all rakeback, and frequent player points will go to the stakee.


Stakee will post bust out HH in the rail thread, and will post details, such as playing time, and what is being played in rail thread so that the staker and others can watch if they should so choose to.


Staker will post his acknowledgement that the above stake terms details are right, and or if I Mike DH the stakee, have made an error in posting the terms and conditions of the stake in this rail thread, then staker will point out such errors, and stakee will will make corrections to such errors. If there is a disagreement about what is in error or not, staker, stakee, will discuss until in agreement, and then stakee, will post the agreement, and staker will then post his acknowledgement.


Other stake related things not in the stake agreement:


Mike DH will make some videos from time to time and post them in the rail thread.


MIke DH, Dwiele, and maybe even other poker players might start meetings in msn,AIM, Skype messengers, once every 2 or 3 weeks to talk poker.



Also do expect me to start discussing HH's from staked games in the MTTSNG strategy section forum from time to time.



ok I think thats about it.


Thanks for the stake Dwiele and good luck to us both.


Mike DH

Last edited by Mikeal_DH; 08-25-2011 at 12:23 AM.
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08-25-2011 , 01:05 AM
agree with everything, gl mike
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08-25-2011 , 08:26 AM
the first tourney I plan to play is the 50 cent Micro madness R(rebuy) A(add on) in about 1 hour and 17 minutes from now, on minted poker. My name on minted poker is MikelDH1.

I will only play this if there is enough entrants and possible rebuys to make it worthwhile,

There might not be enough entrants to make it worthwhile, because there is only 463 on right now, Hopefully they have a tourney like this during their peak, when they have about 2000 to 3000 players online.

If I do this tourney, I will do 1 perhaps 2 rebuys and 1 add on if I need it( if I have a huge stack size like 35k to 75k stack I wouldnt do add on, because it wouldnt be necessarry

total cost of the tourney will be $1 to $2

Mike DH
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08-25-2011 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
the first tourney I plan to play is the 50 cent Micro madness R(rebuy) A(add on) in about 1 hour and 17 minutes from now, on minted poker. My name on minted poker is MikelDH1.

I will only play this if there is enough entrants and possible rebuys to make it worthwhile,

There might not be enough entrants to make it worthwhile, because there is only 463 on right now, Hopefully they have a tourney like this during their peak, when they have about 2000 to 3000 players online.

If I do this tourney, I will do 1 perhaps 2 rebuys and 1 add on if I need it( if I have a huge stack size like 35k to 75k stack I wouldnt do add on, because it wouldnt be necessarry

total cost of the tourney will be $1 to $2

Mike DH
Didnt do the tourney because only 7 showed up and then after I unregistered at the last second, 13 others registered late
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08-25-2011 , 05:21 PM
lololol
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08-25-2011 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rich99cook
lololol
lol I know pretty funny, I need to stop registering to early, and scaring the fish away.

well now its up to 1300 players, so hopefully I can play something soon.

The 20 cent satelites to the $2k GTD, and the 75c freezeouts, and the 50 cent RA and the 25 to 50 cent rebuys all look like they would be good tourneys, IF I play them during peak, which is in a 2 to 4 hours from now, and if there is enough players(er fish), and if there is a big enough prize pool.
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08-26-2011 , 02:44 AM
Ok I played in the following tourneys. I will post bust out hands, as soon as I can figure out where the minted poker HH is, and find the bust out hands. Also I would have given notice ahead of time but a lot of these tourneys at minted poker fill up at the very last second possible. So its hard to know when I will be playing a tourney. often times a tourney will fill up last second, and I will become aware of that last second and play it before I have the chance to notify everyone. If I wait to notify everyone, then I will miss some of these tourneys.


Ok so heres a short summary of each tourney:


1 20c $2000 GTD satelite early bust out, 20 c rebuy then rebuy bust out with with TT with small stack where I shoved got called by 3 others and out I went.


2. 20c $2000 GTD satelite got in good with the best hand, and got bad beated out of 9 to 13k where if I had won, I would have probably qualified for the $2000 GTD.


3. played in the 10 c rebuy $10 GTD 60 players. did a 10 cent rebuy add on since I was a slightly late registering $31 prize pool. final tabled out in 6th place.


previous to bust out hand I had a 9.5 x BB stack with blinds about 2k,4k with about 38k in chips. UTG +2 or MP1 open limps with a 40k stack. table was extrmely limp happy passive, non agressive,tight as in they folded a lot,didnt shove to steal limpins, definately the worst possible table, and table conditions to pay off a AK,AA,KK,QQ type limper, so one would think nobody would dumb enough to limp a monster and only have a 1% chance to get paid off prefrlop or postflop, and risk everybody limping into the hand, and having a 85% chance of outflopping you. Surely nobody would be dumb enough to do that right? WRONG!


UTG +2, MP1 open limps AK suited, a bunch of other limpers limp in. Then I have A4 suited on the BB with my 9.5 x BB 38k stack. I shove figuring nobody would be dumb enough to limp a monster on such a bad table so unlikely to pay a limp trap off. AK calls and out I go.


If I dont wakie up with a shoveable hand in what should be a good situation to try and squeze steal, then I check, and AK suited MP1 has like a 90% chance to get outflopped and lose a lot.


Now question is, was my line of reasoning right to assume nobody would be dumb enough to limp a monster there? I mean it was 10 cent rebuy fish stakes, so maybe I should be assuming that of course somebody will be dumb enough to limp a monster here, since its such a dumb spot to limp a monster.


So with that in mind, when UTG +2 or MP1 open limps should I not make assumptions like the one I did and think: ya know villain is probably limping a monster here, and so I shouldnt shove and just check??


what do ya all think, and what advice do you guys give? this was definately a turning point hand. when I lost the hand, it left me 1.5 BB left. And if I had maybe picked a better spot, maybe I would have been able to double up and finish top 2 or 3 for a bigger cash.


I did win a $1 cash, and did final table finish in about 6th place I think.


So played 3 tourneys 2 satelites and 1 rebuy for a cost of 80 cents, and then won $1 for a net profit of 20 cents for today.


thanks for reading, and any comments, suggestions,advice, and help


And I will post out the bust out HH's as soon as I can


Mike DH
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08-26-2011 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
lol I know pretty funny, I need to stop registering to early, and scaring the fish away.
wow.

you just registered on the site and already your reputation precedes you?

well, I guess it is a rare few who don't know who you are, as you are extremely well known.

but still,

wow.

Also, Diamond Dave Dwiele is one of my best poker buds ever. I'm not sure if he knows how much of a Mike DH fan I am, but I'm looking forward to his updates.

Finally, I haven't seen this one since the holy one's return:


Last edited by Markusgc; 08-26-2011 at 10:41 AM. Reason: 34-68% chance I post ITT again.
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08-27-2011 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Markusgc
wow.

you just registered on the site and already your reputation precedes you?

well, I guess it is a rare few who don't know who you are, as you are extremely well known.

but still,

wow.

Also, Diamond Dave Dwiele is one of my best poker buds ever. I'm not sure if he knows how much of a Mike DH fan I am, but I'm looking forward to his updates.

Finally, I haven't seen this one since the holy one's return:


Hey mark do you know anything about how to retrieve HH from the minted poker skin on the everleaf network??

Also is there a way to pull up a list on OPR or sharskscope, or some other site, my tourney results on minted poker? I tried OPR, and that didnt work, and I dont have a sharkscope subscription.

Because of how the MTT's at minted poker come up and fill up last second, I usually am not able to make a record of the tourney, and after I am done playing a tourney, I am able to make a record of some of the tourneys I have played in, and some of the times I havent been able to do that, because another tourney is available to play, and if I stop to make a record of the previous tourney, I will miss the next one.


So to try and catch everyone up on how I am doing, here is how I am doing,(my math might be off)

ok I have played played

After the net 20 cent profit I mentioned about I have played

1. the 2 20 cent satelites mentioned earlier for 60 cents spent.

2. A 3rd 20 center for $1 cash

3. A 10 center

4.$1 MTT cashed 2nd for $ 8.88

5.$50 cent rebuy 1 add on at star 1 rebuy 1 add on at break total $2 cashed 2nd for $10.41

6. 10 center bubble out with 18k stack due to a mistyped out bet amount dwiele was watching.

7. 3 more MTT's for a total of $1.50

8.Bubbled out of the $2 superstack $100 GTD

9.$1 rebuy MTT $1 rebuy/add on

10.$1 MTT

11. $1 PLO $100 GTD cashed 4th or 5th for about $8.50

So thats about $12 in tourneys so far. and about $29 in gross profit winnings so far and a $17 net winnings profit so far and a $67 bankroll up from $50

So a net $17 bankroll winning profit increase so far

So if anybody who has a sharkscope subcriptions wants to help, can they please pull up the results for my MikelDH1 screen name and help me and dwiele to accurately update.


Also mark can you cut out that holy one crap and sarcasm


thanks
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08-27-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
Hey mark do you know anything about how to retrieve HH from the minted poker skin on the everleaf network??

Also is there a way to pull up a list on OPR or sharskscope, or some other site, my tourney results on minted poker? I tried OPR, and that didnt work, and I dont have a sharkscope subscription.

Because of how the MTT's at minted poker come up and fill up last second, I usually am not able to make a record of the tourney, and after I am done playing a tourney, I am able to make a record of some of the tourneys I have played in, and some of the times I havent been able to do that, because another tourney is available to play, and if I stop to make a record of the previous tourney, I will miss the next one.


So to try and catch everyone up on how I am doing, here is how I am doing,(my math might be off)

ok I have played played

After the net 20 cent profit I mentioned about I have played

1. the 2 20 cent satelites mentioned earlier for 60 cents spent.

2. A 3rd 20 center for $1 cash

3. A 10 center

4.$1 MTT cashed 2nd for $ 8.88

5.$50 cent rebuy 1 add on at star 1 rebuy 1 add on at break total $2 cashed 2nd for $10.41

6. 10 center bubble out with 18k stack due to a mistyped out bet amount dwiele was watching.

7. 3 more MTT's for a total of $1.50

8.Bubbled out of the $2 superstack $100 GTD

9.$1 rebuy MTT $1 rebuy/add on

10.$1 MTT

11. $1 PLO $100 GTD cashed 4th or 5th for about $8.50

So thats about $12 in tourneys so far. and about $29 in gross profit winnings so far and a $17 net winnings profit so far and a $67 bankroll up from $50

So a net $17 bankroll winning profit increase so far

So if anybody who has a sharkscope subcriptions wants to help, can they please pull up the results for my MikelDH1 screen name and help me and dwiele to accurately update.


Also mark can you cut out that holy one crap and sarcasm


thanks
in my account on the toolbar there is something that says hand history or account files or something and it takes you there
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08-27-2011 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IminUroutKFP
in my account on the toolbar there is something that says hand history or account files or something and it takes you there
thanks, now I can start posting hand history.

Bust out of the $1 superstack(thats the last update without a HH, from now on I am going to post the HH, if I can find the right tourney HH, and find the bust out hand. I had so many HH's stored up, that I couldnt find anything is that huge mess of HH's, and O I deleted them, and so now I should be able to find and post HH's now)
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08-27-2011 , 07:47 PM
3rd in a $1 MTT for $7.83 10 x BB was card dead and was on button, figured only way I get called is if someone has a good hand. I shoved K2 duited, BB big stack woke up with AT suited and out I went for trying to steal 3 handed. will post HH if anybody wants
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08-27-2011 , 08:48 PM
BARDOT all in every hand preflop knocked out my 99 7k stack with blinds 100/200 about to go up to 150/300 with his A2 suited in the $1 $50 GTD $75 to $85 prize pool rebuy

now the goof off has a 20k stack and is probably gona win the whole thing, after rebuying like 17 times.

And for some strange reason even though the rebuy period hadnt ended, the thing didnt give me the chance to rebuy

Hope the poker idiot goof off clown donk all in every hand preflop freak doesnt win or cash.
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08-27-2011 , 09:29 PM
final tabled bubbled out in the $75 cent rebuy satelite to the $3500 GTD did 3 rebuys total $3 blinds went up every 3 minutes I went out on AT vs 99 flip
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08-27-2011 , 11:47 PM
just played 10 cent rebuy spent totall of 40 cents cashed for 47 cents kept on getting unlucky. there were some shorty 4 x BB chip swuater stacks trying to either get into the money with 25 chips, or shove AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK suited anything else they would fold. And EVERYTIME I raised, a shorty chip squater weould wake up with a monster and nickle me down, til I was shoving 6 x BB to 9 x BB pretty wide, and the one time I did have a monster all in preflop, of course shorty wakes up with KK again, and out I go. lol it was crazy.
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08-28-2011 , 04:42 AM
Subscribed, gl Mike!

Lots of entertaining things in the thread, and this has just begun! What's a BARDOT by the way?
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08-28-2011 , 05:52 PM
Where are you getting all of these guaranteed tournaments from? I never see any guaranteed MTTs on Everleaf.
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08-28-2011 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nofx Fan
Subscribed, gl Mike!

Lots of entertaining things in the thread, and this has just begun! What's a BARDOT by the way?
BARDOT is the other players name, just in case anybody wanted to watch and see if the goofball was gona win the whole thing or not
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08-28-2011 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by brownieattack
Where are you getting all of these guaranteed tournaments from? I never see any guaranteed MTTs on Everleaf.
They only have them on at certain times, and not that often. Also they are for smaller amounts. There is the 10 cent $10 GTD the 50 cent $25 GTD the $1 $100 to $200 GTD, the $2, and $3 $200,to $400 GTD's the $5 $500 to $1000 GTD. The $10 $100 to $1500 GTD, the $25 $2000, $2500 GTD's $50 $3500 GTD


of course these rare limited GTD's are not as good as the poker stars GTD's like the $3.30 rebuy 60k GTD.

But the GTD's on minted poker on everleaf are pretty good, considering the lower number of players.

If they could get more players, the GTD's buy in cost would be lower, and the GTD amounts would be more.
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08-29-2011 , 01:22 AM
i'm happy that bodog (even though i hate the site) just raised a lot of their guarantees
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08-29-2011 , 09:16 AM
Miraculously I still cash 4th or 5th place for $17.50 in the $2 rebuy add on $200 GTD, despit taking a NEW RECORD FOR ME 14 semi legit, but still BS 5.5 to 6.5 x BB shorty stack beats from 5.5 to 6.5 x BB shorty wait until get JJ to AA,AK,AQ chip swauting stacks.

I took 2 or 3 coinflip beats to shorty's, then shoved A6 to AK,KQ,KJ,66 to QQ on the button and or SB, only to have the 5.5 to 6.5 x BB SB, or 5.5 to 6.5 x BB shorty BB wake up with better or a flip, and lost 3 or 4 more times. THen there was the 3 times when everyone limped including 5.5 x BB shorty who has 1/4.5 stack in, and then I flop like top pair, 2 pair,etc, but of course shorty limp in gets beter. anhd then there was like 3 to 4 other times, when I have the b est hand preflop vs the nshorty's in a nonflip and its 60/40 or betterfor me, and the shortys suck out 3 or 4 times vs me.


ALl in ALL it was about 14 total BS statistical butunlucky anomaly 5.5 to 6.5 x BB beats that I took at the hands of 5.5 to 6.5 shorty stacks, in this 1 single tourney.

I had 29k at 1 point and then 14 of these BS beats later I am down to 7k with blinds 600/1200. that totally defies thelaws of variance and laws of probability and likelyhoods, and unlikelyhoods.

And if that werent bad enough, before I built my stack up to 29k, i took 2 or 3 bad beats before the 14 beats I took from shorty stacks.

And if that were not bad enough there was the 2 2 x BB almost blinded out stacks that when they were alol in preflop on the BB vs like 3 to 4 others, the same big stack would raise, and not check it down, and 2 or 3 times drove out what would have been the winning hand that would have beaten the blind out chip squating stacks thus allowing them to sit for 2 or 3 more blinds circuits.

This caused the blinds nto get up to 1000/2000 all thanks to the almost blind out shorty chipsquating stacks and the big stack who doesnt know how to check it down.

So I went out when I shoved my 7.5 x BB stack with Q9 suited on the SB, and big stack BB woke up with Ax high on the BB and out I went in 4th or 5th place for $17.50

So it was a miracle, and great skill, and a little tiny bit of good luck that I even got that far, because of all the BS crazyness

So enough with this BS shorty beat stuff, A6-AK,KQ,KJ,55 to AA should be good against 5.5 to 6.5 x BB stacks MOST of the time.

Also I gave 1 bad beat out in the tourney and 1 coinflip semi bad beat, and get 16,17 of them in return in this same 1 tourney.

So new record.

lol crazy

Edit: the total cost for the tourney was $4. it was a $2 rebuy. I didnt know this tourney was a $2 rebuy, or I wouldnt have played it. because normally thats $2 buy in, 1 $2 rebuy, and $2 add on for $6, which would be bad bankroll management, for a $50 to $100 bankroll.

But like I said I didnt know it was a rebuy. I thought it was a freeze out. So I paid the $2 buy in, and did 1 add on for $2 for a total of $4 spent on this tourney.

Sorry for the mix up, and I will try not to make that same mistake again, as the goal is to use good bankroll management. Just glad that I cashed after all the crazyness that happened in the tourney.

Last edited by Mikeal_DH; 08-29-2011 at 09:25 AM.
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08-29-2011 , 10:00 AM
Can somebody use Hold em manager to convert HH, the hand history converter says it wont convert this HH.

This is a HH from the $2 rebuy $200 GTD. I hadbeen playing tight, and hadnt bluffed and only semi bluffed 1 or 2 times at most and had just show down a big pot AA hand that I won.

villain was a extrmely tight nit So considering the fact that I raised early position, and that the board had possible straight and flush draws on the board, and since villain was just flat calling,and since I hadnt given villain any reason to slowplay me, I figgured that if I fired off a 3rd bullet that he would fold here and would ignore that he was borderline pot committed.

I also thought villian had a flush or straight draw or bottom pair or middle pair at best here

I really thought villain would or might probably fold vs my turn big bet. And I was pretty darn sure villain would fold to a river shove, because I had raised preflop and played the whole hand so agressively


Normally I dont play a hand this extrmely super agressively


So tell me what you all think, thanks




Everleaf Gaming Game #301579736
***** Hand history for game #301579736 *****
Blinds 50/100 NL Hold'em - 2011/08/29 - 10:35:13
Table 1
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players: 6
Seat 1: alexei22 ( 2442 Chips )
Seat 2: DeadlyJoker ( 4731 Chips )
Seat 5: Stratos001 ( 1500 Chips )
Seat 6: cerriku ( 1907 Chips )
Seat 7: fluffycat ( 2910 Chips )
Seat 8: MikelDH1 ( 4046 Chips )
Stratos001: posts small blind [ 50 Chips]
cerriku: posts big blind [ 100 Chips]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MikelDH1 [ Ac, Th ]
fluffycat folds
MikelDH1 raises [ 300 Chips]
alexei22 folds
DeadlyJoker calls [ 300 Chips]
Stratos001 folds
cerriku calls [ 200 Chips]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Qd, 5d ]
cerriku checks
MikelDH1: bets [ 650 Chips]
DeadlyJoker calls [ 650 Chips]
cerriku calls [ 650 Chips]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
cerriku checks
MikelDH1: bets [ 1,600 Chips]
DeadlyJoker calls [ 1,600 Chips]
cerriku folds
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
MikelDH1: bets [ 1,496 Chips]
DeadlyJoker folds
MikelDH1 does not show cards
MikelDH1 wins 6100 chips from main pot

Last edited by Mikeal_DH; 08-29-2011 at 10:23 AM.
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08-29-2011 , 12:03 PM
I don't really like it too much. It's an extremely small buyin so naturally it's harder to get a bluff through. The turn and river are also pretty bad barrelling cards, what he calls with on the flop would probably call on the turn- and the river adds a card which could complete straight draws etc.

It's not too bad because the flush draw which is a big part of his range misses- but I'd much much rather see you bet turn a little bit smaller which would set up a large river shove. Shoving 1496 on the river after betting 1600 on the turn is very small, and any good villain shouldn't be calling 1.6k OTT and then folding OTR.

Good thing he folded though!
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08-29-2011 , 12:24 PM
Mike where have you been?!!!!!!!!
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08-29-2011 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rich99cook
I don't really like it too much. It's an extremely small buyin so naturally it's harder to get a bluff through. The turn and river are also pretty bad barrelling cards, what he calls with on the flop would probably call on the turn- and the river adds a card which could complete straight draws etc.

It's not too bad because the flush draw which is a big part of his range misses- but I'd much much rather see you bet turn a little bit smaller which would set up a large river shove. Shoving 1496 on the river after betting 1600 on the turn is very small, and any good villain shouldn't be calling 1.6k OTT and then folding OTR.

Good thing he folded though!
Yeah you may be right. Obviously it was a read heavy decision. as to why I bet turn more, was I was trying to rep that I had the trips Q's and or top pair great kicker, or 2 pair,etc, that was trying to protect made hand from the draw.

I really truly honestly thought he would fold. But your right it is fish donkish to call the turn and fold the river. I really did think he had a draw, or bottom pair crappy kicker. And that if he called turn, he would do so out of desperation chase, and then when miss, he would be like Oh sht, I missed, what do I do now? uh he has me beat, no way I can win if I call, I fold.


obviously 99% of the time I dont make this play here. And if at higher stakes, I NEVER EVER try to make this play here.

But since you may be right about betting turn smaller, thats what I will try to remember to do next time, if there is a next time, as I think it mwill be a extrmely long time before I ever play a hand this way again.

thanks for your input.
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