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09-30-2014 , 01:56 PM
Lol, I can imagine that convo with Stars:

Q: How long has he been scamming ppl.
A: For about 4 years, there's a website markdoakisathief that's up for months and multiple ppl posted about his scams. 3 Years ago he was looking for money to cover the stake he rolled.
Q: When did you decide to invest with him.
A: 2 weeks ago.
Q: And now you expect us to take action?

Ain't gonna fly.
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10-01-2014 , 07:23 PM
Used to have him on FB and Skype but he obviously blocked me from both; gonna crush him at the tables next time I play.
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10-02-2014 , 02:44 PM
oops,he did it again

Last edited by parenzo; 10-02-2014 at 03:02 PM.
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10-02-2014 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Giffordonian
Used to have him on FB and Skype but he obviously blocked me from both; gonna crush him at the tables next time I play.
feel free to add a slow roll in there as well please
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10-02-2014 , 11:40 PM
lol i knew this guy was a scum bag, selling 80% of every package at 1.2 gave it away. People need to stop investing in this garbage so these degenerates will go away and stop spamming their horrible -ev threads.
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10-03-2014 , 06:37 AM
People where warned on here about him. He has previous. Once he was on the downswing this was always going to happen.

People selling mulit packages at the same time need more scrutiny. He obvioulsy had this planned as it seems there five packs that he has issues with. One last pay day before he go's. He rinsed investors for ages on here. How people invested 80% at 1.25 need their head tested. Also once he was not risking his own money im sure he just gambled more.

He's had negative feedback on here before but was still able to get market approval. I think once you have ripped people off before you should be banned for good because once you do it once your more than likely to reoffend.
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10-03-2014 , 06:41 AM
Not only did he have MP approval after being a known scammer, mods even removed negative remarks about him.
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10-03-2014 , 06:50 AM
He could get negative feedback removed so easy. This place needs tightening up as its to easy for this thing to happen and it happens to often. How can someone with previous be allowed get away with this.

He was over on the hendon mob and people saw through him. He then went over to the pokermob and theirs a thread where people know what he is at.

Negative feedback he had on here should have been enough to remove market approval for good. Alot on here knew what he was at and it's only this happens can you really see what he was getting away with. Selling 5 packs all at once should not be allowed as it open to this.
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10-03-2014 , 08:25 AM
Most people who bought knew about the negative feedback and still bought
IMO he should have had his MP access removed but people should also have been more careful

Anyways there is no point in discussing the past anymore
What's done is done
I think it's time to contact his family and friends and let them know what he has done

That may or may not get your money back but in any case leaving this scammer free would only give him confidence to scam more people

I don't understand how some earlier posted we should not out him or contact his family over a few K
Well a few K may not mean anything to you but it could be a lot of money for some investors
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10-03-2014 , 09:33 AM
totally agree abhi lets contact his family and friends... Dont let him scam more people !!
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10-03-2014 , 10:39 AM
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My efforts were in vain as this site closed my account
That's a very bad thing and you're not the 1st person that has had critic of and warnings for MDDGFC deleted by mods. I understand 2+2 can't be held responsible for the sanity of packages, but this should mean they have to let the free market run it's course, which includes that negative posts should be allowed. It is now proven those were right, sadly with $10k investor money gone.
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10-03-2014 , 10:45 AM
I know other people that got banned as well stating the same thing. He was rinsing people and when it was pointed out people got banned over it. Mods should maybe check if stuff is right before deleting it. Proves it was right. Market place needs total changing. Its to easy to scam on here. Way to easy.
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10-03-2014 , 12:28 PM
could maybe print out these threads and send them to everyone in his street
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10-03-2014 , 01:46 PM
he has probably moved house already anyway - the **** he is.

how much does he owe from each pack?

I know he played some so has anyone worked out what exactly is owed?

His last pack was smaller and he didnt sell much so cant be much on that but the wcoop ones he sold a fair bit I think

edit ---on me phone but looks like what 3-4k back on this pack alone on games he cashed+refunds and ones he didnt play

Last edited by yorkies knob; 10-03-2014 at 01:55 PM.
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10-03-2014 , 02:42 PM
were to start......
first of the lack of communication....obv ive messed up really badly here and should have came clean a long time ago, for that im sorry i know ive let a number of people down, people who have been loyal backers of mine for a long time.

as for everyone else, obv your entitled to your opinion, it would make this thread easier to follow if it was kept for just backers but thats not my call.
payback.....at this point in time i have no funds, im currently living somewhere i dont have daily access to the internet, not that ive the funds to grind with anyway.

this past week or two ive been actively searching for a job, obv with a massive cv gap its not easy but i do have a number of interviews and assesment days lined up over the next 10 days.

regarding poker, ive been offered an 80/20 stakeback deal by a friend this weekend, as most of you on here clearly dont rate my game ive arranged to stay at his place to see if the additional pressure of someone watching me play will make me perhaps play better. This deal is only for this weekend but may be extended to a day by day thing, tbh it all depends on results

payback will begin as soon as i have any sort of funds to do that, obv it will take time, i know that, obv it will be hard, i know that, i also know that ive no one to blame here but myself , but i will given the time make this right.

i will be keeping all my posts to either this thread or possibly a new payback thread if that makes more sense, id imagine it would.....for that to happen i will have to wait until i actually have a decent amount of time on the internet and time to work through this mess. I also need peoples views on whether i should be paying a % to everyone each time i have a certain amount, whether I should be paying out in order of pack or lowest amount to highest or whatever way seems fair.

i will not be responding to any trolling of any sort and will keep my posts strictly filled with ongoing info re payback.

I intend to stay away from all other forums, and the internet in general until i have something solid to actually get report, at that time ill get back online.

this will all be payed back, not because im scared of anyone coming looking for me, not because im scared of anyone contacting anyone, it will be paid back because i messed up, because its my fault and because its the right thing to do.

lastly, just to be clear, for those keyboard warriors hinting or actually suggesting people find me and use violence....take a second..obv ive messed up, but lets be very very clear here, dont expect me to sit back and play a scared little boy over that sort of threat....were i come from punishment beatings are dealt out by groups of people, not single handed keyboard warriors....so by all means if you want to test your mettle by jumping on a flight and coming to track me down thats up to you, id just advise against it....especailly if your only coming with two or three friends!
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10-03-2014 , 02:49 PM
*where
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10-03-2014 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mddgfc
lastly, just to be clear, for those keyboard warriors hinting or actually suggesting people find me and use violence....take a second..obv ive messed up, but lets be very very clear here, dont expect me to sit back and play a scared little boy over that sort of threat....were i come from punishment beatings are dealt out by groups of people, not single handed keyboard warriors....so by all means if you want to test your mettle by jumping on a flight and coming to track me down thats up to you, id just advise against it....especailly if your only coming with two or three friends!
hmm...
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10-03-2014 , 03:31 PM
Lets not derail it
He has shown willingness to sort this mess up
Let him do it

The priority is that investors get their funds and violence/anger/keyboard warfare is not going to be the answer

Let the investors and mddgfc decide the course of this

GL everyone
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10-03-2014 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mddgfc
were to start......
first of the lack of communication....obv ive messed up really badly here and should have came clean a long time ago, for that im sorry i know ive let a number of people down, people who have been loyal backers of mine for a long time.

as for everyone else, obv your entitled to your opinion, it would make this thread easier to follow if it was kept for just backers but thats not my call.
payback.....at this point in time i have no funds, im currently living somewhere i dont have daily access to the internet, not that ive the funds to grind with anyway.

this past week or two ive been actively searching for a job, obv with a massive cv gap its not easy but i do have a number of interviews and assesment days lined up over the next 10 days.

regarding poker, ive been offered an 80/20 stakeback deal by a friend this weekend, as most of you on here clearly dont rate my game ive arranged to stay at his place to see if the additional pressure of someone watching me play will make me perhaps play better. This deal is only for this weekend but may be extended to a day by day thing, tbh it all depends on results

payback will begin as soon as i have any sort of funds to do that, obv it will take time, i know that, obv it will be hard, i know that, i also know that ive no one to blame here but myself , but i will given the time make this right.

i will be keeping all my posts to either this thread or possibly a new payback thread if that makes more sense, id imagine it would.....for that to happen i will have to wait until i actually have a decent amount of time on the internet and time to work through this mess. I also need peoples views on whether i should be paying a % to everyone each time i have a certain amount, whether I should be paying out in order of pack or lowest amount to highest or whatever way seems fair.

i will not be responding to any trolling of any sort and will keep my posts strictly filled with ongoing info re payback.

I intend to stay away from all other forums, and the internet in general until i have something solid to actually get report, at that time ill get back online.

this will all be payed back, not because im scared of anyone coming looking for me, not because im scared of anyone contacting anyone, it will be paid back because i messed up, because its my fault and because its the right thing to do. EXACTLY THIS

lastly, just to be clear, for those keyboard warriors hinting or actually suggesting people find me and use violence....take a second..obv ive messed up, but lets be very very clear here, dont expect me to sit back and play a scared little boy over that sort of threat....were i come from punishment beatings are dealt out by groups of people, not single handed keyboard warriors....so by all means if you want to test your mettle by jumping on a flight and coming to track me down thats up to you, id just advise against it....especailly if your only coming with two or three friends!
Personally think fair play for coming back on here when you have messed up so bad, and i hope you realise why people having been calling you a **** etc - you deserved it.

I think you need to make a separate thread in the rail section linking all the packs involved and doing a full audit of what is owed to people - payments can be discussed in there and people not involved in the packs should keep out of the thread.

All people ask is that you are now honest with them and however long it takes you pay them back step by step.

I also think you need to update on a daily basis - even if its just to say, sorry nothing happening at the moment but im still here working hard to pay you all back - takes 1 min to do that and ensures people are in the loop and you havent gone missing.

I agree about trolling him now as well, this needs to be a positive thread the past is the past and people make mistakes it takes a big man to come on and admit there mistakes and try and work it out. Whats happened has happened so leave it there and move on to try sorting it out.

Just hope you stick to your word and hopefully you pay everyone back and you can get back on track.

edit to say agree abhi147

edit2 worth looking at this thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...9/index21.html - people can sort out problems so he has to be given the chance to do so imo.

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10-03-2014 , 04:02 PM
You had enough inet access to put a few tournies in eh?

Did you even pay back what u owe the other guys who made neg feedback posts about you?
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10-03-2014 , 04:22 PM
Nice post Yorkies!

Totally agree. Make a thread with all the $ you owe us and keep us posted.. The least you can do for all the investors
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10-03-2014 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Samesamebutdffrnt
Nice post Yorkies!

Totally agree. Make a thread with all the $ you owe us and keep us posted.. The least you can do for all the investors
+1
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10-03-2014 , 05:25 PM
I am only owed a small amount, but that does not take away from the fact that I want my money just as much as the person who has 20x as much invested. I think that realistically you should list each person and the amount owed. After that, I think that you should pay off one person before proceeding to the next. by paying each person, say 1% of what is owed, it makes it much more complicated, IMO.

Other opinions would be appreciated from backers. As well, the only people who should be involved in the thread are the ones who are owed monies.
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10-03-2014 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by peldini
I am only owed a small amount, but that does not take away from the fact that I want my money just as much as the person who has 20x as much invested. I think that realistically you should list each person and the amount owed. After that, I think that you should pay off one person before proceeding to the next. by paying each person, say 1% of what is owed, it makes it much more complicated, IMO.

Other opinions would be appreciated from backers. As well, the only people who should be involved in the thread are the ones who are owed monies.
Paying off one person before another is certainly not the best way to do it, everyone should be paid proportionately to what they had invested, its really the only fair way.

so if he has say 5% of the total to pay back, then everyone gets 5% of what they are owed back. there is no reason why one, small or large should be made whole before another at this point.

As i mentioned above, and in all his packs, I have gone through his rails and sharkscope (before blocked) and come up with a somewhat accurate amount I believe. This has been sent to the few investors who have asked for it and i will send a message to Mark and send it to him.

I do believe that getting a playing audit from stars and Tilt to verify rebuys, etc, is the next step, and I would have no issue going through these either.

As for Mark, actions speak louder than words and at this point, despite finally coming in to post, we need to see alot more action than words. I certainly hope you make this right
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10-03-2014 , 07:52 PM
Maybe get someone to escrow the funds that Mark ships on a weekly (?) basis? The escrow then distributes them proportionally after a full list has been compiled and verified. The less admin for Mark the better I think.
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