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Originally Posted by Aguskb
what about the house before this one?
For someone who was bumping this thread a while ago, you seem awfully eager to change the subject now.... Or is your point that the outright, baldfaced falsehoods itt are OK because of something you think i did somewhere else?
regardless, id just as soon stick to the issue at hand and get all the information out in the open... this is my last tldr post on the subject, about the accounting.
First of all, the people that were owed money that were paid.
Hoop[aloopa] (1552)
ben [donkeyking] (1500)
rob[himself] (850)
Jon [gokings1] (1550)
craig [liveforever] (500)
Of all of these, liveforever is the only one who hasnt been paid in full (he still has 650 outstanding). As i believe has been noted itt, i tried to pay everyone back with the lowest stakes players first and the highest stakes players last. Craig was originally between jon and Hoop, but i had the numbers wrong and had marked him as paid in full even though he had only been partially paid.
I realized my error when he contacted me after ben posted that the payments were complete. It also became apparent shortly after that that ben and others intended to keep my personal information and personal photographs posted here.
So fine. My information stays up, craig doesnt get paid. Simple as that.
Normally itt, this is where the crack 2p2 legal team chimes in with some lame threat to try to screw up my probation. This, is obviously your perogative. Should you elect to do so, however, at that point i will only provide payment to craig when ordered to do so by a judge.
Hate to have to be a douche about this, but i want my info removed, and this is the only thing i have to bargain with.
This leaves 6 people who claim to be entitled to payment but who are not.
Groves (Shamrock) and Jamie (xaston)
These were two of the original residents of the house who left in mid april (groves on the 14th and xaston on the 16th, if i recall correctly) with no notice whatsoever. I found out Groves was leaving when I saw a moving van parked in front of our house. Xaston just wasnt there one day.
Our original (verbal) lease agreement specified that they were going to continue to stay in the house and pay 1K/mo rent, and that either party could elect to end the lease with 30 days notice. Both of them had security deposits on with the landlord as part of the original lease they signed with twelver, and when i took the lease over i bought them out of their respective shares and allowed them to continue on the lease with no deposit.
So basically their issue (if im guessing correctly, although both of them posted itt claiming that i scammed them and owed them money, neither has contacted me personally since they left the house) is that they paid for the entire month of april, but only stayed half of the month, so are therefore entitled to a refund of half the months rent.
They aren't. You cant just walk out on the lease halfway through the month and expect a prorated refund. Even if i was going to refund them for the days in the month they weren't there, they left me holding the bag for:
Their share of the utilities, which were 20% each of almost a full month (most of our utilities went from the 20th to the 20th)... my guess is that it would have been around 200ish-250ish a piece.
~130 worth of pay per view that they ordered on my cable account and never paid for.
A $120 cleaning bill for xastons room
So basically even if I was going to pay them for the time they paid for but didnt stay (which i am under no obligation to do), that would just about be covered by the utilities, PPV and cleaning they left me holding the bag for.
The "new" house people laffer, kirk, bgsa, and jacob.
As ive mentioned before, the landlord kept our entire $5850 security deposit. Of this, ~1100 (i can get the exact # if someone wants it) was applied to cover the rent for the final week we were in the house, leaving 4750 that I was supposed to get back.
I took the $4700 and devided this equally among all of us who were at the house for a significant peroid of time. This is an exceprt from the accounting of damages i recieved from the landlord.
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Moreover, as I entered the home on June 7, 2010, I was shocked and disgusted, as to what I had noticed, as far as property damage.
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Since you agreed to vacate the premises on June 7, 2010, I have had to
repair/replace the following items:
1. Two 42” televisions;
2. The master leather bed had to be replaced;
3. Carpets cleaned and deodorized;
4. Black queen sized platform bed had to be repaired;
5. Cherry wood queen sized sleigh bed had to be repaired;
6. The dining room chairs had to be repaired;
7. Repaired the downstairs air conditioning unit;
8. Replaced door handle at the upstairs bedroom;
9. All bedding, linens, and towels had to be replaced;
10. Two oriental rugs had to be thrown away, as they were not cleanable;
11. Your dog chewed the dining room table, which has to be replaced;
12. A wrought iron chair had to be thrown away;
13. I had to rent a forty (40) yard trash container for two days, and a cleaning crew, to get rid of all the trash from the house;
14. Armoire in the master bedroom needs to be replaced, as the leg was chewed;
15. Repainted outdoor barbeque area;
16. Drywall repairs;
17. Had to hire day laborers to relocate furniture back to its original place;
18. Had to replace glasses, dishes, coffee maker, can opener, hand mixer and
numerous kitchen gadgets;
19. Had to replace shower curtains, bath rugs, liners, and towels;
20. Repaired/replaced three sets of vertical blinds and one set of wood blinds;
21. Hired pest control to do a thorough power spray, as there were cockroaches, due to your un-cleanliness
22. Replaced numerous light bulbs;
23. Inserted three air filters, as there were none in place;
The landlord told me on the phone that as far as he was concerned, our security deposit was not only covered by the damages but covered several times over. He claimed that there was ~10K in damages _after_ the security deposit was deducted.
Now not all these damages are entirely legit. Some (repainting, changing lightbulbs, air filters etc) fall under routine upkeep/maintainence, and should not be our responsibility. Others were pre-existing damage done by xaston/sham/twelver and the original lease holders (for example, all the damage attributed to my dog was actually there when i arrived at the house, and was done by the two cats and puppy that xaston/twelver/sham kept as pets). PCallinallin and Hoop were there at the beginning of the lease, and can both confirm (if they ever want to start telling the truth) that this is the case.
When i took over the lease, the agreement was that I would buy out the security deposit that the original tenants had with the LL and that they would settle any damages with him before they left. Im not sure wether the LL had already been paid for these things, or if twelver forgot in all the chaos of moving (he was getting married and moving into a new place at the time)
However, a lot of the damage is legit. They smashed at least one TV that i know of (matt did -- a 42" flatscreen) and according to the LL there was another one destroyed when they left. They left a 40-yard-long dumpster worth of trash in the house, smashed up furniture in the halls and generally wrecked the place before the left.
And with the four of them unwilling to cooperate with me in any way to try to get the security deposit back, there really isnt much i can do to fight the non legit charges.
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Originally Posted by idareyou
(screwing the landlord and asking him for money as well when he got out of jail looool)
LOL all you like. Its your money i was trying to get from the landlord and i suppose its only healthy that you maintain a sense of humor about it. You clearly have an ongoing relationship with him (even to the point where hes letting you know that i am trying to get the SD back and you guys are loling about it together) -- i suggest you try to get it yourself if losing it is that big an issue for you.
Is it honestly your position that I should foot the bill for the damages you caused out of my own pocket?