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Old 09-12-2013, 09:24 PM   #1
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Possible Swap Scam

I know 2+2 doesnt allow tradesn paypal, however, they do happen and I feel I need t tell my story.

I had $1500 BCP. Postd it in the Marketplace and was contacted by a 2+2 member and said he could buy up all of it. I made the mistake of saying I would use paypal and would take $1400 paypal.

There were two transactions one for $900 paypal/$1000 BCP and $500 PP for/$550 BCP. I sent funds first because member seemed as though he had a good rep 3k post and many transactions within community.

After he confirmed he received the BCP funds (without telling me before hand) had someone else ship me the $ on PP. I got the funds cashed them out on PP and into Bank with out issues. We did the smaller swap few days later and he used same 3rd party.

This was in May, come end of August I get 2 emails from PP that say these 2 transactions may not have been made by the other person and were under review. I immedately contact 2+2 member I swap with and he said he had just recieved same type of email about another transaction he had made.

Me and other member tried to contact his 3rd party that sent PP and got no response. i had only 7 days to reply to PP and I had dne much business on there and didnt want them digging into account and decided that I would tell PP to refund the $ to sending account.

After talking to other 2+2 member we agreed that he was responsible for repaying me because he used a 3rd party in the swap without telling me first. He said once I prove PP was refunded to 3rd party he would send me $1500 BCP 2 weeks later. I agreed.

2 weeks later no BCP he says he now doesn't feel he should be held responsible. And he is not going to repay until he talks to 3rd party.

Now I am 95% sure I got scammed but in slight chance I am not I wanted to get feedback form community about who should take the hit and bite the bullet.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:50 PM   #2
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Re: Possible Swap Scam

The buck stops with the 2+2 member you traded with and it isn't even close tbh.

He owes you $1.5k /thread
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:04 PM   #3
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Re: Possible Swap Scam

Would love some more opinions before I post more info
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:59 PM   #4
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Re: Possible Swap Scam

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The buck stops with the 2+2 member you traded with and it isn't even close tbh.

He owes you $1.5k /thread
Agreed.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:23 PM   #5
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The buck stops with the 2+2 member you traded with and it isn't even close tbh.

He owes you $1.5k /thread
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:47 AM   #6
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Re: Possible Swap Scam

You should post SN. I have gotten and considered similar offers over PM and would like to be aware of who is scamming.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:44 AM   #7
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You should post SN. I have gotten and considered similar offers over PM and would like to be aware of who is scamming.
I am setting a deadline with member for repayment on Monday if I do not get payment screen name will be posted. I am still getting the run around from him
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:13 AM   #8
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You should post SN. I have gotten and considered similar offers over PM and would like to be aware of who is scamming.
just don't do any paypal swaps unless you happen to know the person and trust them, or have a paypal debit card that you can withdrawal with right away, and don't mind risking your PP account. Those trades are banned on 2p2 for a reason.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:10 AM   #9
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just don't do any paypal swaps unless you happen to know the person and trust them, or have a paypal debit card that you can withdrawal with right away, and don't mind risking your PP account. Those trades are banned on 2p2 for a reason.
all of what you said was well understood before the swap, however, even tho they are not allowed doesnt mean they dont happen and happen alot. We are lookin for wh should be responsible for after what happened. Even tho it is not allowed doesnt mean people should be ok with getting scammed
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:27 AM   #10
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Well deadline came and went ... The member I was dealing with is A 1 i s h A ... He was very active in the sports betting threads early this year. His real name from what he has told me is Samson Lee ... The name of the 3rd party in the swaps was George Lee ... His Skype screen name is Lees0315 ... As soon as I recieved payment from George Lee red flags went up and I felt something like this could happen.

If anyone has issue with this member I have all DM, Skype convos, and email saved.

Hate to have to do this since I am trying to build a solid rep on here, however, even if bA A 1 i s h A 1 is not scamming me he made some pretty poor decisions with these swaps, agreed on a resolution and is now backing out of word. Worst case he scammed me out of $1500 BCP.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:00 AM   #11
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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...l#post40197834

You should post all details in here as not many people will look in here.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:21 PM   #12
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Re: Possible Swap Scam

While I feel for methia33 for possibly getting scammed, can someone explain what exactly was wrong with PP transaction? Trade went through cause that 3rd party guy had balance in his account, wasn't it??

Even if his balance included some deposit that gave him transfer right but got rejected afterwards, shouldn't it only take like few days for PP to know? How could PP come after trades only 3 months after?
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:29 PM   #13
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While I feel for methia33 for possibly getting scammed, can someone explain what exactly was wrong with PP transaction? Trade went through cause that 3rd party guy had balance in his account, wasn't it??

Even if his balance included some deposit that gave him transfer right but got rejected afterwards, shouldn't it only take like few days for PP to know? How could PP come after trades only 3 months after?
I dont think PP came after the transactin I believe 1 f 2 things happened:

1. The 3d party sender decided to screw us over and say his account was hacked and he didnt send the payment

2. The 3rd party sender and the other member in the swap is the same person and did #1
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Old 05-20-2018, 04:40 AM   #14
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Re: Possible Swap Scam

I also had money stolen by this person who uses ilivedangerously and SimpleFast505 as sns. George I imagine is Samson’s (Sam) dad, and I have found his family on FB. With his phone number I have used online services to verify his personal info, including addresses. Ultimately if I don’t get some repayment cooperation, I will inform him that I know exactly who he is. Suing and getting a judgement in AZ (where he now lives) is certainly one route since he committed larceny and fraud by stealing bitcoin in a swap for cash. Anyone who might be willing to PM helpful should please do so.
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