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Old 02-25-2017, 02:01 PM   #76
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That's the nicest thing you've said to me. Ty ty



OT meaning off table? If so, then nothing really mate, bar the amount of time I'm dedicating. I make sure to do at least 3ish hours of study work each day, ranging from hand reviews with friends, VOD reviews, sweats, stuff in Excel etc. I did this all before, just less of it all.



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Old 02-26-2017, 02:25 PM   #77
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Killing it. GL.
Thank you very much

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Great progress and nice volume
Thank you mate . Hope things are going well with you!

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I've been thinking about getting PIO. Does anyone have any recommendations for which version I should be getting?

My buddy got the basic version a couple ago but cannot to get it working with 3bet pots, is that enabled for the basic version? Also, if I got the basic version and then wanted to upgrade it to the pro version a few months down the line, would I have to pay the full price of $475, or just an upgrade price of $226?

Any feedback is very much appreciated
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:57 PM   #78
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I think it's one of those things where you should only get Pro if you already know exactly how you'd use the scripting feature, or have a beefy enough CPU to where you want the 12 core support. Edge would be awesome for preflop solving but too 'spensive off course.

Basic is good is basically (huehue) what I'm saying.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:52 AM   #79
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I think it's one of those things where you should only get Pro if you already know exactly how you'd use the scripting feature, or have a beefy enough CPU to where you want the 12 core support. Edge would be awesome for preflop solving but too 'spensive off course.

Basic is good is basically (huehue) what I'm saying.
Haha, 12 core support, one can dream

I think I will get it sometime soon!
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Old 02-28-2017, 04:38 AM   #80
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Have you gotten the free version? It does everything the basic version does, only it's limited to one flop. So it's not helpful for improving your game but will show you exactly what it's capable of.

I don't see how it could struggle with 3bet pots - doesn't make any sense to me, they theoretically aren't different to solve right? Does he mean postflop 3bets?
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:14 AM   #81
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Have you gotten the free version? It does everything the basic version does, only it's limited to one flop. So it's not helpful for improving your game but will show you exactly what it's capable of.

I don't see how it could struggle with 3bet pots - doesn't make any sense to me, they theoretically aren't different to solve right? Does he mean postflop 3bets?
I do not have it, although I will prob download it sometime soon, even if it is just to help get my head around it.

He told me that there was a box missing that needed to be ticked in order for it to be a 3bp. His words not mine, I've never used the program before.
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:41 AM   #82
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Haha, 12 core support, one can dream

I think I will get it sometime soon!
Yeah not relevant for me either lol. But! AMD is rolling out 8 core CPU's at a nice price point in a few days so if one were to update an old computer to run PIO more smoothly in 2017 that would undoubtably be the way to go, and thus you'd want the Pro version.

But it's just $20 more expensive to upgrade after the fact than getting Pro immediately so it's not like you have to torment over such considerations, just get basic now and start solving

I'm pretty sure you and your friend just have some miss in the communication and that he means that he can't get preflop solving to work. For postflop you just input different stacks, available actions, pot and bet sizes and off you go. Doesn't matter if it's a 2/3/4/5bet pot. There's no 3bet feature to activate or anything.
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:13 PM   #83
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As far as I know the only realistic difference between getting basic and pro is that you can't script in basic.

You 100% can do 3bet pots in the basic version
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:05 AM   #84
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Yeah not relevant for me either lol. But! AMD is rolling out 8 core CPU's at a nice price point in a few days so if one were to update an old computer to run PIO more smoothly in 2017 that would undoubtably be the way to go, and thus you'd want the Pro version.

But it's just $20 more expensive to upgrade after the fact than getting Pro immediately so it's not like you have to torment over such considerations, just get basic now and start solving

I'm pretty sure you and your friend just have some miss in the communication and that he means that he can't get preflop solving to work. For postflop you just input different stacks, available actions, pot and bet sizes and off you go. Doesn't matter if it's a 2/3/4/5bet pot. There's no 3bet feature to activate or anything.
Haha nice, personally I like Intel but know of AMD being pretty good/not so expensive. 12-core seems extreme, I don't know anyone who has it. I remember watching an unboxing video on YouTube of a $5k gaming pc which was i7(insert mumbo jumbo) 10-core.

Right now I'm using an 8gb Quad-core i7, how do you think that'll manage with PIO?

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As far as I know the only realistic difference between getting basic and pro is that you can't script in basic.

You 100% can do 3bet pots in the basic version
Gotcha thanks a lot! I'm definitely going to be getting it within a month.

What is scripting exactly? I've seen a few people mention this... is it setting a script to solve more than one hand?

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It was really nice to get away from Poker for a bit, even if I still spent 20 mins 1 tabling 100z each day out of sheer addiction . Also, the amount of time being unproductive over the break has now given me the urge to be productive .

I've set myself some goals for this month. They are as follows:
1. 46k hands - ~1.7k hands per day, as I take Monday's off
2. 150 hrs of logged playtime in PT4
3. Get healthier - daily walks/pushups/situps, I already eat/drink well
4. Happy with my play

Other than that, everything is good. Time to get on the grind for this month! GL all!
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:05 AM   #85
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Old 03-01-2017, 01:54 PM   #86
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Re: ZOOOOOM v2

Did a dodge a bullet or get blooooofed??

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    SB: $110.59 (110.6 bb)
    BB: $50 (50 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $128.97 (129 bb)
    MP: $103.50 (103.5 bb)
    CO: $246.88 (246.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K A
    Hero raises to $2.50, 3 folds, SB calls $2, BB calls $1.50

    Flop: ($7.50) A 6 3 (3 players)
    SB bets $1, BB folds, Hero raises to $3.83, SB raises to $6.66, Hero calls $2.83

    Turn: ($20.82) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $101.43 and is all-in, Hero folds

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    Old 03-01-2017, 02:23 PM   #87
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    He probably has you crushed with at least a flush, maybe a set and is hoping you call with the exact hand you hold. Good fold.

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    Old 03-01-2017, 02:37 PM   #88
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    Easy fold. And raise more on the flop.
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    Old 03-01-2017, 03:37 PM   #89
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    He probably has you crushed with at least a flush, maybe a set and is hoping you call with the exact hand you hold. Good fold.

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    Yea agreed w/ your thoughts... so tilting though with that specific combo of AK lol

    I do neither, fully devoted to Poker atm.

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    Easy fold. And raise more on the flop.
    Yeah definitely a bigger raise in theory. I've seen so many lead-folds for 1bb in zoom to the point where I just deem it as FOS, so now I tend to raise smaller vs them when I have it to let them catch up. Idk what they are thinking when they donk the 1bb. Clearly this guy is a bit diff and uses it as some sort of trap - genius

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    Old 03-02-2017, 07:40 AM   #90
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    Doesn't matter if it's a 2/3/4/5bet pot. There's no 3bet feature to activate or anything.
    But how does PIO know who has the betting lead? For example: if we're BB vs BTN in a non3bp we should be checking all of our hands, whereas if we 3b pre then we're going to be betting a lot of the time as well as checking.
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    Old 03-02-2017, 08:52 AM   #91
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but betting lead (initiative) is something we (humans) made up. PIO doesn't care about that... only thing he cares about is EV
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    Old 03-02-2017, 01:14 PM   #92
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    But how does PIO know who has the betting lead? For example: if we're BB vs BTN in a non3bp we should be checking all of our hands, whereas if we 3b pre then we're going to be betting a lot of the time as well as checking.
    You just delete the flop bet size for BB in that instance, then PIO acts as if BB can't bet.

    You can also node lock. Not the most convenient method in this case, but make sure to find the youtube tutorial and grasp how the feature works asap. In a lot of spots PIO plays nothing like an SSNL population, so you want to adjust the strategy to solve against when you have the info required to do so.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but betting lead (initiative) is something we (humans) made up. PIO doesn't care about that... only thing he cares about is EV
    You got it. It's basically equity driven. He who has the equity lead takes the betting lead.
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    Old 03-03-2017, 02:54 AM   #93
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but betting lead (initiative) is something we (humans) made up. PIO doesn't care about that... only thing he cares about is EV
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    You just delete the flop bet size for BB in that instance, then PIO acts as if BB can't bet.

    You can also node lock. Not the most convenient method in this case, but make sure to find the youtube tutorial and grasp how the feature works asap. In a lot of spots PIO plays nothing like an SSNL population, so you want to adjust the strategy to solve against when you have the info required to do so.



    You got it. It's basically equity driven. He who has the equity lead takes the betting lead.
    Yea you guys are right, I'm just being thick... ignore me
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    Old 03-03-2017, 11:16 AM   #94
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    https://www.twitch.tv/nhsrs

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    Old 03-03-2017, 02:00 PM   #95
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    Does anyone have any recommendations for meditation? I haven't done anything meditation-related before, but I know a lot of good players practise it religiously. I'm not even sure how long it would take?

    Anyway, the month is going pretty well so far. Volume hasn't been great so far down to me reinstalling (now re-unnistalled lol) League of Legends. I swear my discipline for some things is fantastic, yet for others it's just non-existent. But it's unnistalled again, so hopefully I can pick up on the volume a bit and also do the reviews/random Poker tasks that I've been putting off recently...

    Few hands:
    1 Vs reg. Sq was too small, prob just basic human error.
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      Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
      SB: $107.77 (107.8 bb)
      BB: $102.50 (102.5 bb)
      UTG: $100.04 (100 bb)
      MP: $100 (100 bb)
      CO: $85.42 (85.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
      UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, MP calls $8, CO folds

      Flop: ($26.50) T 8 2 (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $7.81, MP raises to $24.50, Hero calls $16.69

      Turn: ($75.50) 4 (2 players)
      MP bets $64.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $64.50 and is all-in

      River: ($204.50) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

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      2. Check turn? Vs std reg.
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        BTN: $113.85 (113.9 bb)
        SB: $105.86 (105.9 bb)
        BB: $126.47 (126.5 bb)
        UTG: $390.47 (390.5 bb)
        MP: $265.58 (265.6 bb)
        Hero (CO): $127.71 (127.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with T J
        2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.50

        Flop: ($19.50) 8 3 Q (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $4.63, Hero raises to $19.08, BTN calls $14.45

        Turn: ($57.66) 6 (2 players)
        Hero bets $17.10, BTN calls $17.10

        River: ($91.86) 7 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN checks

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        3. Pretty sure I cannot get away from betting Turn/River on these specific cards. Vs rec.
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          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37659387

          BTN: $210.41 (210.4 bb)
          Hero (SB): $103.20 (103.2 bb)
          BB: $98.08 (98.1 bb)
          UTG: $100 (100 bb)
          MP: $103.11 (103.1 bb)
          CO: $149.57 (149.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with A 7
          4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

          Flop: ($6) T 8 4 (2 players)
          Hero bets $2.96, BB calls $2.96

          Turn: ($11.92) 6 (2 players)
          Hero bets $7.92, BB calls $7.92

          River: ($27.76) T (2 players)
          Hero bets $22.67, BB raises to $84.20 and is all-in, Hero folds

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          4. I think I'm perceived to have a lotta airballs here
            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37659388

            BTN: $523.16 (523.2 bb)
            Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
            BB: $114.19 (114.2 bb)
            UTG: $100 (100 bb)
            MP: $94 (94 bb)
            CO: $157.83 (157.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with K Q
            3 folds, BTN raises to $2.30, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, BTN calls $6.70

            Flop: ($19) 5 T 7 (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN checks

            Turn: ($19) 2 (2 players)
            Hero bets $12.64, BTN calls $12.64

            River: ($44.28) K (2 players)
            Hero bets $78.36 and is all-in, BTN folds

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            5. I've no words for Villain's play tbh.
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              BTN: $135.04 (135 bb)
              SB: $96 (96 bb)
              BB: $117.48 (117.5 bb)
              UTG: $137.45 (137.5 bb)
              Hero (MP): $108.18 (108.2 bb)
              CO: $247.04 (247 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is MP with T K
              UTG folds, Hero raises to $2.50, CO folds, BTN calls $2.50, 2 folds

              Flop: ($6.50) 2 5 K (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN bets $1.79, Hero calls $1.79

              Turn: ($10.08) 2 (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN bets $12.55, Hero calls $12.55

              River: ($35.18) 4 (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN checks

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              Old 03-03-2017, 02:23 PM   #96
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              Correct me if I'm wrong but betting lead (initiative) is something we (humans) made up. PIO doesn't care about that... only thing he cares about is EV
              too much strat itt

              saw you at the tables today, movin' on up!

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              Old 03-03-2017, 02:28 PM   #97
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              Old 03-03-2017, 02:34 PM   #98
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              I recommend headspace for getting into meditation mate. It's all guided so it's a nice progression from complete beginner to guru. PM me your skype if you want I might be able to save you some $$$ It's also definitely worth doing whichever way you approach it. I'm certainly noticing the benefits after only a month in. You realise how much you need it when you first start and it's impossible to not think of anything for longer than 10 seconds.
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              Old 03-03-2017, 02:39 PM   #99
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              And regarding how long it takes it starts off at 10 minutes per day and slowly increases to 20 minutes after the first few weeks. If you mean how long it takes to see the benefits it differs massively from person to person. It's kind of like going to the gym in that you wont see immediate results but if you stick at it and do it every day then within a month or 2 you'll for sure notice a clearer mind.
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              Old 03-03-2017, 03:51 PM   #100
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              ZOOOOOM v2

              subbed, good read so far, gl champ.

              H1 Kings wp

              H2 JhTh meh

              H3 A7 Really like betting bit smaller OTT vs a spud - ensures they're never slowplaying 2p etc and bombing most rivers. Hes just gonna have an holy number of pairs and sds

              H4 Think I like it vs a spud kinda just like betting a bit smaller to guarentee a call though. Thats me though.

              H5 44 KTo hand I lolled

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