Just gonna +1 on what George said. uni for me was huge but not solely because of what I learnt in the degree but with social experiences and managing time etc. Also employment opportunities in certain industries can be limited otherwise.
Good luck this month, your study goals are insane! P.s stay north of the river
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yeah quite crazy study goals. My wish for this month is to study maybe in average 20-30min/day but on the other side this 4h/day will leave u less time to play so it is not bad for us other regs
My WWSF has consistently been 45 ish at 6evbb. I guess you may mean higher, and it is probably true you won't become the next Linus unless you are just completely going out of your way to run over population tendancies at 200. But the two biggest crushers I know at 500 both also have similiar WWSFs, think it's simply an untrue statement to say there are no crushers with that WWSF anymore.
This is also an interesting one imo. I may be biased because I went to Uni and had a very good experience, but I do think you get a lot more than just the teaching side of things. For a ton of people, me included, Uni forces you to really put yourself in social situations you would never have done otherwise, build a huge network of friends and meet people from tons of different backgrounds. I was from a very small, poor town, and really had no understanding of how the world is until I went to uni. Secondly, with the loans system it really isn't financially difficult in the UK, just an extra tax on your income (if you ever have taxable income!)
Thirdly, above all else it's just a signalling mechanism. Whatever you think about university, it is very difficult to make the big corporate money without a degree. If you have a good degree from a good uni, it's a signal that you can manage your time and have the aptitude to succeed. It's also generally true that people who have been successful at a top university have developed social skills which generally lead to success in employment. I just can't see a better alternatives for employers any time soon, ON TOP of all that, universities contribute a ton to society as a whole with the research side of things.
TLDR; good unis are good.
Nice month too, and gl going forward, you are a genuinely annoying person to have at the table so would like you to move to 500 asap.
Yeh sorry, I was trying to reference the endbosses when I said crusher, not a good 500z reg.
Don't want to derail this thread too much with the uni talk, but every one of your points are more than achievable without going to uni, besides your third point about making lots of money in the corporate industry, and you are (unfortunately) completely right about that. It shouldn't be that way, but right now it is. My only hope is that that will change in the near future, because with the current availability of free knowledge online, one does not need to attend Uni to achieve the same, expert knowledge you ascertain through a studying degree.
Gl to you, too, and I'm glad you find it annoying vs me
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Nice blog Clanty, gl.. keep crushing
Ty ty
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120 hours of grinding pio in 1 month ? thats some serious work ethics
Who said it's only PIO? :P
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Think it's pretty crazy to have a goal of 4 hours study a day and play so few hands. You do you tho lol.
Crazy to you, but it's worked well for me so far!
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Just gonna +1 on what George said. uni for me was huge but not solely because of what I learnt in the degree but with social experiences and managing time etc. Also employment opportunities in certain industries can be limited otherwise.
Good luck this month, your study goals are insane! P.s stay north of the river
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Staying north! How did your month go mate? Haven't seen you for a while
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Carnage study goals. Gl in November boss!
Cheers mate! Congrats on a fantastic October as well
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yeah quite crazy study goals. My wish for this month is to study maybe in average 20-30min/day but on the other side this 4h/day will leave u less time to play so it is not bad for us other regs
GL
Hehe, I think there is a compliment in there somewhere, ty!
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Thanks for so many replies guys, very much appreciated!!
Pumped for November, really hoping I can end the year at 500, as that was the plan at the start of it!
Few hands from today:
1. Ran it twice. It went something like this: diamond, diamond....... diamond, diamond. foooook me
Ref Uni... massively pretentious function IMO. Could do a lot more in a shorter amount of time, leaving people in less debt and better equipped for life. I doubt Uni will be looked at like it is now in 20 years time, when people realise you can simply learn everything online
100% bang on. gg wp
That Q8...somebody needs to start some sort of whale hall of fame . And remember, no fish on Stars.
Okay, it's possible everything you learn at uni can be learnt online. Lots of papers are behind paywalls, lot's of software is completely unaffordable or unavailable to private individuals, there is much more noise and 'fake news' bad information prevalent, and much less quality control, but yes the information is out there.
But. How many people are going to sit online and do 2000 hours of study for three years in a row. And if you do, good luck convincing anyone you've done it. You pay for a certificate of your expertise from a trusted institution. You do it yourself, no-one is assessing your process, you can easily fall into huge echo chambers, you aren't being held to anywhere close to the standards of academia.
You don't get to mix with a huge pool of selected driven people, and as I mentioned, you don't get access to all the benefits of economies of scale.
Most important thing by a mile though is that people who study Maths at Oxford don't do it because they want to become Mathematicians (mostly). They do it because the degree itself is a signal of extreme quality, first to get through the application process, and secondly to succeed and complete an incredibly testing course. There is no denying this has a value.
Maybe you can learn the same stuff online. But the reason employers and the world in general values an Oxford degree more than someone telling them they've learnt Oxford level maths online is because the majority of the time someone says that it's just not true. Maybe if it became true for the majority of people, value of degree goes way down.
I think it's super naive and anti establishment to claim Uni's aren't worthwhile, even disregarding all the social growth/ networking effects. The price of uni is actually incredibly depressed vs what it would be in truly free markets by government grants, so I would say that top unis in the UK are way underpriced vs the benefits you get.
education should be free, those prices are just insane #endtopic
In countries where anyone can study in an university, prices drop down a lot, reducing the price healthcare/products/professional services, which makes a more fair society. Also it increases the competitiveness of the market, cheaper professionals = more efficient companies.
The answer gentlemen is somewhere in the mid. Moocs ( massive open online courses) are going to dictate the learning process and take place of the old classic universities, the way we know them today. Also the degrees are going to change dramatically. You will be able to select basically ALL of the courses and built the tree of knowledge as you please without sticking to the old fashioned standardized narrowed course selection. I think it will be groundbreaking when it takes its final shape.
That Q8...somebody needs to start some sort of whale hall of fame . And remember, no fish on Stars.
Hahaha ikr? He took a good 30 seconds before calling as well, so I had him on something like JT. Not even close, lol
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Okay, it's possible everything you learn at uni can be learnt online. Lots of papers are behind paywalls, lot's of software is completely unaffordable or unavailable to private individuals, there is much more noise and 'fake news' bad information prevalent, and much less quality control, but yes the information is out there.
But. How many people are going to sit online and do 2000 hours of study for three years in a row. And if you do, good luck convincing anyone you've done it. You pay for a certificate of your expertise from a trusted institution. You do it yourself, no-one is assessing your process, you can easily fall into huge echo chambers, you aren't being held to anywhere close to the standards of academia.
You don't get to mix with a huge pool of selected driven people, and as I mentioned, you don't get access to all the benefits of economies of scale.
Most important thing by a mile though is that people who study Maths at Oxford don't do it because they want to become Mathematicians (mostly). They do it because the degree itself is a signal of extreme quality, first to get through the application process, and secondly to succeed and complete an incredibly testing course. There is no denying this has a value.
Maybe you can learn the same stuff online. But the reason employers and the world in general values an Oxford degree more than someone telling them they've learnt Oxford level maths online is because the majority of the time someone says that it's just not true. Maybe if it became true for the majority of people, value of degree goes way down.
I think it's super naive and anti establishment to claim Uni's aren't worthwhile, even disregarding all the social growth/ networking effects. The price of uni is actually incredibly depressed vs what it would be in truly free markets by government grants, so I would say that top unis in the UK are way underpriced vs the benefits you get.
Let's just agree to disagree, I don't think we'll ever be seeing eye to eye on this :P
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education should be free, those prices are just insane #endtopic
In countries where anyone can study in an university, prices drop down a lot, reducing the price healthcare/products/professional services, which makes a more fair society. Also it increases the competitiveness of the market, cheaper professionals = more efficient companies.
The answer gentlemen is somewhere in the mid. Moocs ( massive open online courses) are going to dictate the learning process and take place of the old classic universities, the way we know them today. Also the degrees are going to change dramatically. You will be able to select basically ALL of the courses and built the tree of knowledge as you please without sticking to the old fashioned standardized narrowed course selection. I think it will be groundbreaking when it takes its final shape.
Fantastic progress bro keep up!
Never heard of them, but it does sound good.
Cheers for the well wishes, hope things are going well with you as well bro
I think it's super naive and anti establishment to claim Uni's aren't worthwhile, even disregarding all the social growth/ networking effects. The price of uni is actually incredibly depressed vs what it would be in truly free markets by government grants, so I would say that top unis in the UK are way underpriced vs the benefits you get.
Absolutely. The market value from a top UK/US university is incredibly high across the world. It's not even close to being comparable to e.g. german universities which are certainly very good, but don't have neither the notoriety nor the image that Ivey League universities in UK/US have. So yeah, I do agree with you that there's much more to it than just the function of time invested vs learning progress.
always felt wrong to me to pay so much money to have a paper to show you have the skills/knowledge required to then have a shot at working for somebody else
always felt wrong to me to pay so much money to have a paper to show you have the skills/knowledge required to then have a shot at working for somebody else
hopefully I never have to resort to that
Tbh most people itt take their degree at face value. The degree isn't necessarily a representation of what you know. It's a representation of the fact that you were smart enough and able to manage your time well enough to obtain the degree. Compabies hiring new grads arent primarily fixated on can he/she do this or that. They want to know that they have the ability and work ethic to learn what's required for the job.
But on the other hand if you can make over 8k/month playing poker in a 1st world country that would probably be the way to go (unless Amaya stars goes for another soul-crushing model shift)
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