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10-10-2014 , 05:59 AM
I had/have the highest respect for your work ethics, really

But honestly, you would make so much more money if you'd stop playing like a monkey ( like for example that Q5 and Q8 hand .. )
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10-10-2014 , 06:33 AM
Dude,you dont had or have any respect for my your ethic,really.See your all posts at this thread,just come here try tilt me every time,i dont know if you have 2 account and who the f@% are you but its really "gay" what you doing.

Will be not talk about hands with you after you dont understand what am doing with Q5o,with Q8 its kinda lose but have ton reads/notes on many guys know what they doing.

Will be stop posting for few days cos i play badly after talk with haters or noobs.
Am really try doing something here,if you dont like the thread please dont posting,for me its important.

Will post monday again with graphs cu
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10-10-2014 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by noobis
Will be not talk about hands with you after you dont understand what am doing with Q5o,with Q8
Edit: nevermind, gonna stop the bashing. GLATT

Last edited by AndItsGone; 10-10-2014 at 07:15 AM.
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10-10-2014 , 07:18 PM
Hey Noobis,

Kinda followed you since you started. Stick in there man. Ain't no short cut to any place worth being.

GL FB54
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10-11-2014 , 06:30 AM
Not hating, but river call w AT seems very, very optimistic.

Also don´t understand how you didn´t shove river w Q8. Don´t see how we run into a full house like ever, and hands that beat us would be limited to A8s or something. Shoving river seems mandatory.
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10-12-2014 , 11:17 AM
Thanks Fatboy,am wonking it

Hey mumpfmampf (nice sn btw) AT hand am not in love but fish take a wird line he can show up there with Ivey air hands a lot so am not fold trips vs him,Q8 hand he jam river so i cant raise .
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10-12-2014 , 01:23 PM
Few updates for my poker challenge!

When this year starts i was dreaming playing nl100 by the end but when pll make plans the universe laughs...So am here and amost without roll,still gringing nanos and its sick cos didnt had any basically losing month at all, for last 20 months or so at ring plus mtts/sng tabes.

Last few weeks i played under burn out mode,mostly tilting poker maybe my c game and being unhappy overal with poker and my real life.

Made some rude post at forum and general being angry without any real reason.When someone talk like an idiot two things are possible,he is an idiot or he is unhappy,i thought that being part of that huge poker community i will be make friends that we will be not stay only on poker,but i was wrong.

Poker its a game!!!

Its awesome make some good money but at the end its just a game,pll need to be happy play a game,we have to be love games to play poker,no matter what games.

None from my boxing gym can seat down and play 16 hours Age of mythology or football manager or LOL or whatever,but most of the guys that playing poker can easy play every day 12 hours any "stupid" game,just cos its so fun do that.

I miss the time that me and my friends play international socccer pro literally all day,so why thats so fun?Why playing vs others its fun and playing vs computer its boring?
Imo cos competition fact,you cant have a good sleep when someone flirting with your gf when she is at work.You have to do something cos if you will not then he will "beat" you on this game and the price its your gf.Even if you are not in love with her anymore you dont want this happen,cos this will be a defeat!

My point is that being better that someone esle at poker have more value than the money you will win after that,maybe you say "i just wana make more $$ than you,and i dont care being better" but maybe you just cant recognize the true value behind making more money than someone else.This is the reason why 80% of the regs playing poker prob higher than they should,and everybody,i mean EVERYBODY have the illusion that they are better than they actually are.

In my opinion people MUST stop thinking with the way that we lean at school,school kill our imagination and religion make as weak!Stop belive that something good or bad or whatever just cos someone else told you,you have a brain so use it!

In my real life a lot of my close "friends" told to me that am egoist and i allways answer that this is the bigger compliment that i ever heard,why people think that being egoist its bad?Cos you will go in hell or something?How its a bad thing when i wake up at morning,looking the mirron and say to myself, "You are the bigger egoist in the world,and i love you!" How?

It can bring you a lot of problems,but that will be yours problems and you will be love that problems as well,when i was kid at school i remember that one day we talk about girls and one kid was in love with "the most beautiful girl" in school,he wana go and talk with her but he didnt cos he said that she will be reject him just cos our class was one class smaller and we are kinda noobs.And the other kids looks like all agree with that and i was so angry,how you can believe that?This kind of people when brow up they try and find some other ways to believe the same model,they say that women want guys with nice cars or a lot of money etc.I was dating allways with the hottest girls all the time,never had money or fancy cars.Think out of the box,there is no path for the truth.Cos truth its not stationary,its not here or there.Truth moving all the time,there is no map or a guru that can show you anything.

About poker now,as i told you this is my month and its very bad.I have ~100$ roll and i will start a giga challenge.I will play a million hands by the end of this year and i will try make some roll for live poker.So within ~75 days hero will be play 15k hands per day with few breaks and i will show to my self and you that you can beat tilt and burn out without take any break instead,play much more and much more agressive.

Thread will be updating every day with results and i will make ~3k $.Thank you reading and stay with me.

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10-12-2014 , 02:02 PM
good luck man, kai egw prospathw na ftiaksw ena aksioprepestato roll alla to variance sto PLO exei alli apopsi(~90 buyins under ev). Omws otan katafereis kai ftiakseis ena roll apo to tipota niwtheis anikitos giati ksereis oti mporeis na to kaneis opoiadipote stigmi.
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10-12-2014 , 02:43 PM
Enjoyed reading that Good luck bro!
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10-12-2014 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by noobis
you dont understand what am doing with Q5o
It's a terrible hand to 3b with OOP, there's not a lot else to understand.

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Originally Posted by noobis
but have ton reads/notes on many guys know what they doing.
Sounds like you're leveling yourself. He must have been so tilted otr, I would have been.

Your post flop play seems to have improved since last time I visited this thread, but seems you've got major issues with your ranges pre.

Last edited by samcx; 10-12-2014 at 05:03 PM.
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10-12-2014 , 05:07 PM
Yeah, no offence noobis mate but a lot of the stuff you're doing is really awful. Put in some serious study and don't do stuff because you feel like it.
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10-12-2014 , 06:57 PM
^ what she said
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10-12-2014 , 07:04 PM
Good luck noobis, hope u make it
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10-12-2014 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iamZERGG
good luck man, kai egw prospathw na ftiaksw ena aksioprepestato roll alla to variance sto PLO exei alli apopsi(~90 buyins under ev). Omws otan katafereis kai ftiakseis ena roll apo to tipota niwtheis anikitos giati ksereis oti mporeis na to kaneis opoiadipote stigmi.
90buyins under ev looks like really sick bro

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Enjoyed reading that Good luck bro!
Thank you dude,do you have 100$? Remember? jajaja

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Originally Posted by samcx
It's a terrible hand to 3b with OOP, there's not a lot else to understand.



Sounds like you're leveling yourself. He must have been so tilted otr, I would have been.

Your post flop play seems to have improved since last time I visited this thread, but seems you've got major issues with your ranges pre.
Hey Hulk,thank you comment at first.In my opinion Q5o its a perfect hand to have oop when i 3bet regs that they open wide and fold ton vs 3bets and defending mostly by 4betting.I can flat sc proftable and play more hands by 3betting bluff with tone of hands that pll fold pre turning that hands to proftable plays.Have a huge database that show me that its massive +ev.
I know some pll hate it but a lot of regs use that strategy.

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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Yeah, no offence noobis mate but a lot of the stuff you're doing is really awful. Put in some serious study and don't do stuff because you feel like it.
Thanks,i will put some study as well cos wana play better ip when i flat but cant do that stuff right now,no time for me

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^ what she said
She?

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Good luck noobis, hope u make it
Thank you sir,and yes i will make it for sure.
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10-13-2014 , 03:50 AM
Yes TDA is a girl, did you not know?

Q5o is a terrible 3-bet hand, ESPECIALLY oop.

No offense... it is.
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10-13-2014 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by noobis
Hey Hulk,thank you comment at first.In my opinion Q5o its a perfect hand to have oop when i 3bet regs that they open wide and fold ton vs 3bets and defending mostly by 4betting.I can flat sc proftable and play more hands by 3betting bluff with tone of hands that pll fold pre turning that hands to proftable plays.Have a huge database that show me that its massive +ev.
I know some pll hate it but a lot of regs use that strategy.
I get your point about flating SC's, so then 3b the bottom of that range - stuff like 64s, 53s etc. Stuff that can flop well and plays much better OOP with initiative. Q5o flops terribly and if you consider CO's calling range it's gonna have a ton of hands which will have you dominated.
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10-13-2014 , 05:27 AM
Yeah, I'm a girl who poses as a guy online to drag in unsuspecting women that I scam...

Sound plausible?
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10-13-2014 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by samcx
I get your point about flating SC's, so then 3b the bottom of that range - stuff like 64s, 53s etc. Stuff that can flop well and plays much better OOP with initiative. Q5o flops terribly and if you consider CO's calling range it's gonna have a ton of hands which will have you dominated.
Vs oponents that play back with flating maybe its better idea but vs pll who play 4bet/5bet strategy Q5o will be better hand to 3bet imo.



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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Yeah, I'm a girl who poses as a guy online to drag in unsuspecting women that I scam...

Sound plausible?
Avizura said TDA its a girl:
Spoiler:
Wrong!

Avizura said Q50 terible 3bet:
Spoiler:
Wrong!
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10-13-2014 , 08:06 AM
Said it before and will say it again :

Please Noobis, for your own sake, start listening to the advise of other people.

Pretty please ?
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10-13-2014 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AndItsGone
Said it before and will say it again :

Please Noobis, for your own sake, start listening to the advise of other people.

Pretty please ?


[ ] Q5o great in 3b bluff range at $10NL games
GL Noobis. Glad your posting again.

Last edited by Alobar; 10-13-2014 at 12:39 PM. Reason: removed insult
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10-13-2014 , 11:39 AM
Q5 is clearly 3bet for bluff.Your main purpose when you 3bet As bluff is to take the pot Preflop..
Given we have stats that villain folds a lot
On 3bets pre,the blocker effect of high card and the metagme of creating preflop aggressive image Q5o qualifies for an Ok 3bet hand As bluff given the positions.

Gl noobis
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10-13-2014 , 11:34 PM
[QUOTE=noobis;44914042]Vs oponents that play back with flating maybe its better idea but vs pll who play 4bet/5bet strategy Q5o will be better hand to 3b.

Noobis v flat your 3b...

Last edited by spacehippie; 10-13-2014 at 11:44 PM.
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10-14-2014 , 02:38 AM
in my experience from NLHE i can see merit for 3betting wide ranges against weak regulars(fit or fold/doesn't playback) on micro stakes because you can outplay them postflop, play perfect against their 4bets and because if the hand ever goes on showdown and they lose to Q5o you create good metagame. Now all this can be outdated as i haven't really played alot of holdem in the last 1.5 year
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10-14-2014 , 03:24 AM
guys nobody is discussing about whether to 3bet a lot or not. we are just trying to find the best range to do it with.
And my 3bet range oop is small suited aces, stuff like 46s, 85s, and ip small offsuit aces and some suited stuff.
Q5o is a bad 3bet oop imo.
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10-14-2014 , 06:00 AM
Bored at work so got to this thread.

Interesting read. We've probably played some together at 25nlz.

Q5o is a terrible 3bet OOP.

GL though.
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