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Winning in poker and still need a stake? make sense? Winning in poker and still need a stake? make sense?

07-31-2018 , 01:45 AM
Hi there,

I have always been receiving enquiry of staking them to play in some of my network and they are already winning players.

Well, if you are winning in poker online for months and years. You actually still need to be staked?
Does this really make sense?

Any advice please?
Just wanna prevent myself getting associated with scammers
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07-31-2018 , 03:59 AM
You could always stake me if you wanna stake a losing player ,Your money might be the lucky money for me
On a serious note I think it's the norm tbf and vice versa backers will only take players if they can prove there a winning player over x amount of games ..

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07-31-2018 , 06:06 AM
There's a big difference between being a winning poker player and successful poker player. Even if a player is a long term winner at the table (which is rare enough), they also have to navigate through bankroll management. Some players spend every penny they make either wisely or unwisely. When they are running hot, they spend. When running cold, they borrow. Others have drug issues (including alcohol) that cause them to play poorly or decide to play at stakes they can't win.

Generally, if a player needs a stake, there's a reason for it. And it isn't a good one for the staker.
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07-31-2018 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
There's a big difference between being a winning poker player and successful poker player. Even if a player is a long term winner at the table (which is rare enough), they also have to navigate through bankroll management. Some players spend every penny they make either wisely or unwisely. When they are running hot, they spend. When running cold, they borrow. Others have drug issues (including alcohol) that cause them to play poorly or decide to play at stakes they can't win.

Generally, if a player needs a stake, there's a reason for it. And it isn't a good one for the staker.
I have to disagree with you here , surely you could have terrible bankroll management but as long as you were a winning player you could be a good prospect for a backer . I fully understand your point but with drugs/alcohol as under the influence not only will you not be playing your best you could also convince yourself that it would be a great idea to go in something your not rolled for to turn the month around for you an backer an we all know how that 1 ends .
As long as your not playing under the influence and your not a liar or a thief I can't see why someone with terrible brm couldn't be a good staked player ? Yes he still might not make much money for himself as will still most likely go in games he shouldnt/gambling but as long as this is done with own money after backer paid should be no beef .

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07-31-2018 , 08:52 AM
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I have always been receiving enquiry of staking them to play in some of my network and they are already winning players.
Hey OP. First of all, you might want to stop abusing the PM function to spam the poker network where you are affiliated. That is prohibited on this site.

Anyway, there are lots of reasons why a winning player might not have a bankroll. First of all there are expenses. So even if you are crushing say $25 or $50 buy in big bet games, you might only be able to keep up with expenses. So then one bad run and you are cleaned out. Heck, even if you were winning $100,000 a year, you could still spend $100,000 a year, or even $120,000 a year, and eventually you would go broke, in the latter because you are outspending your income, or in the former case when you have a break even streak for a year. Winning players can lose for an entire year, especially if you are playing say live poker where you do not get much volume in. Alternatively, someone might have other leaks off the felt, such as drugs or women or craps (TJ Cloutier), where they are winning players at the tables but lose everything they win in some other areas.

Of course most people applying for stakes are probably losing players. Most poker players lose after all. Staking is a risky business because you have to be able to identify a winning poker player in order to be a profitable backer, and of course most people are not winning poker players.

Last edited by PokerPlayingGamble; 07-31-2018 at 08:59 AM.
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