nice bink and good luck with the goals!

Always funny/interesting to hear stuff about pre black friday poker. Like it being possible to be a winning player 3betting only ~4% lol. Did regs fold a ton to 3bets back then because they knew it was so strong? If so it couldn't have taken long for some guys to figure out that 3betting 10-15% is printing free money when everyone folds 75%+ vs 3bet. Sounds like so much fun to play poker pre-bf, running over all the nit regs while simultaneously sucking in stacks upon stacks of punts

Wow sick hit. Crush the hundos now.

I don't understand how you can stand these chump change limits. You are playing a lot better but need to get even better and fast. The AI is coming and coming fast to all sites. It will be mostly humans with real time AI but that's still AI.

The biggest mistake I see with players staying in your chump change limits is not enough studying and not seeing their edge.

For example, I had a whale at Iggy at 1000nl and I had the best seat. Him alone makes that table worth $100 an hour. Obviously I am not leaving.

At another table I had 4 regs. I would be lucky to be breakeven after rake, have to hope one of the regs has tilt issues (which they often due but I can't risk so I abandon).

The fullring at Iggy is juicy, no reason why you shouldn't find at least a couple of ridiculous tables at 200nl+.

I accidently came to a video by Peter Clarke where he was going over a student's 50nl database in PT4, so you could see all the stats. And every table that popped up on the reviewer I was thinking 5+bb/100, 10+bb/100, 0-2 bb/100, etc etc. Unfortunately I mostly saw breakeven tables. Which is disappointing at 50nl. This player must have been playing zone on some tough bot infested site.

But the point is if you see it the same way, you should be at 200+NL within a couple of weeks. And if you can't see your edge, then you need to work more on your game. That level 4 goal is a joke, more heart less complacency and it's a lock.

Thanks fellas The Man, the Legend in my thread. How are you bro?

I'm with you for the most part. I never really moved up in my career because I'm a huge bankroll nit who has a low win rate. Bad combination! But that was when I played 10 years ago. Now I'm just a regular ******* with a regular job, so this **** is just a hobby. Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.

So yeah, the plan is to be extremely aggressive with my bum hunting. It'll be all nl100 initially, but if it isn't an immediate disaster I plan to start adding 200+ tables as long as there is at least one big rec at the table.

I get what you're saying about micro players staying at tough tables. It's not an issue for me though. There's 0 ego in my poker game - I'm here strictly to catch punts. That said I have been working with a coach in an effort to not get totally dumpstered by the regs. And I do think my game is better now that it ever has been. I like what you said about seeing your edge. My edge will never be poker skill related. My edge comes from my lack of ego and my ability to religiously game select.

So yeah, hopefully I can calm down, forget about the money and spin this **** up one time before the robots take over. I'll do my best to make papa loco proud.

V is solid reg but we don't have much history

*heavy breathing*

PokerBros - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 225.07 BB
MP: 102.95 BB
CO: 184.6 BB
BTN: 61.07 BB
SB: 84.5 BB
BB: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 2 6 K
Hero bets 2 BB, CO raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (25.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, CO bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB

River: (75.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, CO bets 75 BB, Hero???

CO wins 71.47 BB

he hammered that pot button

Call?

A solid reg raises K 6 2r flop in position vs pfr where he flatted pf?

Does he play 66/22 this way? What about KTs-KQs?


It's a call for me.

180bb deep vs a 25% cbet you probably should have a raising range.

It's weird that V didn't shove the river, though. Is he repping a flush? I think that OP could bluff check/shove the river actually.

I'd agree w/ call.. V likely overplaying Kx.

OTF: villain could raise some 87s w/ bdfd or maybe some A3/A4s might play this way and bluff river blocking AK

I'm guessing pb is fairly high rake with it being a soft site/app so... It's hard to visualize range composition for a V. Who opts to flat the CO (w/o stats/reads). ofc standard is SC's, middling PP's.. Maybe some suited BW's he doesn't opt to 3b pre and then you move the the suited gappers OS trash etc. Against a rec I'm snapping him off and expect to see KJ alot. If he's playing some SC and rivered the bdfd, Fairplay nh and if he's 22/66 pre then I'm paying him off and running him over in the future. Too high up in our range to fold here, if we do opt to fold its a explo fold but I wouldn't make these adjustments on some Pseudo image of pool w/o deep dB analysis to determine they're never bluffing in this spot. Pay him off OP and stop playing scared money!

Another factor is after raie OTF he's essentially repping 66 and w/ the K pair it's that wierd dynamic of UTG has less Kx now but your range is weighted to Kx and some BW W/ bdfd plus 66-AA so (villain dependent) the turn barrel is going to have high success rate but the river bluff is a punt

I'd agree w/ call.. V likely overplaying Kx.

OTF: villain could raise some 87s w/ bdfd or maybe some A3/A4s might play this way and bluff river blocking AK

I'm guessing pb is fairly high rake with it being a soft site/app so... It's hard to visualize range composition for a V. Who opts to flat the CO (w/o stats/reads). ofc standard is SC's, middling PP's.. Maybe some suited BW's he doesn't opt to 3b pre and then you move the the suited gappers OS trash etc. Against a rec I'm snapping him off and expect to see KJ alot. If he's playing some SC and rivered the bdfd, Fairplay nh and if he's 22/66 pre then I'm paying him off and running him over in the future. Too high up in our range to fold here, if we do opt to fold its a explo fold but I wouldn't make these adjustments on some Pseudo image of pool w/o deep dB analysis to determine they're never bluffing in this spot. Pay him off OP and stop playing scared money!

I thought it was a somewhat interesting spot where finding any bluffs for V was difficult. There are a few combos of k10 and KJ. Pure call in pio I would imagine and definitely would be an extremely exploitable fold. Thanks for the replies.

Was it Kx?

When your value range is literally 2 hands on a board this dry seems dumb to split your ranges here.

That's a good point and we can use this dynamic as a heuristic for raise frequencies by Mitigating our "value drivers"

I wouldn't know

I would definitely open at least one 200 table on bros. Find the ones with a few shorter stacks obv. Personally I always sit to get a game HU, you get a drooler a pretty high percentage of the time. And you'll know if it's a decent player within the first couple of minutes.

Agreed, I've found some absolutely bonkers short handed tables. I've played a few hands of 200 this month

Strikes and gutters this month. I didn't play a single hand until the middle of the month, so the volume isn't as disappointing as it looks.

I don't feel like I played particularly well. I need to find some new training content. I've been through from the ground up a few times. Need something between that and the BTS course.



oops

PokerBros - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 106.17 BB
MP: 109.59 BB
CO: 248.54 BB
BTN: 85.51 BB
SB: 100 BB



SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5 3 3
SB bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Turn: (22 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 14.66 BB, SB calls 14.66 BB

River: (51.32 BB, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 43 BB, SB raises to 74.34 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 31.34 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 3 7 (Three of a Kind, Threes)

SB shows 3 A (Three of a Kind, Threes)

SB wins 195.75 BB

ok

PokerBros - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP+2): 100 BB
CO: 108.49 BB
BTN: 287.97 BB
SB: 107.12 BB
BB: 214.32 BB
UTG: 53.52 BB
UTG+1: 91.88 BB
MP: 208.5 BB
MP+1: 30.54 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 raises to 6 BB, MP calls 6 BB, MP+1 raises to 30.54 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 30.54 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to 91.88 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 61.34 BB

Flop: (222.8 BB, 3 players) K 2 Q

Turn: (222.8 BB, 3 players) 4

River: (222.8 BB, 3 players) T

Hero shows K A (Flush, Ace High)

Main Pot [100.12 BB]: (Pre 34%, Flop 89%, Turn 98%)
Side Pot#1 [122.68 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 90%, Turn 98%)

MP+1 shows J A (Flush, King High)

Main Pot [100.12 BB]: (Pre 20%, Flop 7%, Turn 2%)

UTG+1 shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens)

Main Pot [100.12 BB]: (Pre 46%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [122.68 BB]: (Pre 61%, Flop 10%, Turn 2%)

Hero wins 218.55 BB

just clicking buttons vs mega rec

PokerBros - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 55.76 BB
BTN: 103.77 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 155.05 BB
UTG: 94.83 BB
MP: 127.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) K 8 A
Hero checks, MP bets 4.25 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.75 BB, MP calls 8.5 BB

Turn: (34 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (34 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 17 BB, MP raises to 112.25 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 67.75 BB and is all-in

Hero shows A K (Full House, Aces full of Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
MP shows 8 K (Full House, Eights full of Aces)
(Pre 29%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 199.25 BB

wrecked

PokerBros - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 210.32 BB
UTG: 226.25 BB
Hero (MP): 142.35 BB
CO: 181.01 BB
BTN: 98.47 BB
SB: 446.14 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) T 2 4
SB checks, Hero bets 2.5 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

River: (36 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 61 BB, Hero calls 61 BB

Hero shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 54%, Turn 16%)
SB shows 5 3 (Flush, Ten High)
(Pre 19%, Flop 46%, Turn 84%)
SB wins 153.75 BB

I've discovered that six tables is my sweet spot. Onward and upward for next month!

+200 or so rb and 150$ from play on my tablet from work. Could be a lot worse!

Anyone out there do database analysis? I can't shake the feeling that I've got some glaring leak that I'm struggling to identify. Thanks!

Pokerbros is famous for more variance (at least from what I have read in their thread on the web).

Might try some play again on Ignition, then compare with results from Pokerbros.

GTO can only get you so far. Need to use population tendencies to explore exploitative techniqes.

Yeh I'm apt w/ a solver but my DB analysis is lacking, I know how to do pool analysis on PT4 but always end up struggling to set the filters I want but the software is limited for instance I wanted Hero RFI and SB flats to see what sort of dogshit they're flatting the small blind w/ but to the best of my knowledge it's impossible to filter for that scenario.

PokerBros - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG+1: 110.49 BB
MP: 121.26 BB
MP+1: 125.14 BB
MP+2: 400.34 BB
CO: 259.86 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 132.67 BB
BB: 59.75 BB
UTG: 99 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ah Jh
fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, SB raises to 14 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 13 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB

Flop : (43 BB, 3 players) Js Ks Ac
SB bets 21.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 21.5 BB

Turn : (86 BB, 2 players) 7d
SB bets 86 BB, Hero calls 64.5 BB and is all-in

River : (215 BB, 2 players) Kh

Is this just a straight up turn fold?

Dont see how you can fold this turn. You flopped nuts in a 3bet pot with that hand.

Yep you're right. They've just always had it recently