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Old Yesterday, 10:58 AM   #451
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Is there a reason you 3b the 89s to $17? I expect the cold 4 to be slightly less likely to be light since your 3! Sizing was so big. At 100bb deep the call is going to struggle a lot. 89ss benefits a lot from initiative, think we just have a pretty clear fold.
89s plays better vs a cold 4bet range than KQs. Also he will hit most boards villain will miss and will play somewhat perfectly on most turns.
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Think 89s is pretty reasonable, rather peel 76s and 87s but can’t see it being that bad
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89s oop seems a bad call to me in my micro playing mind. We’d need to be deeper, about 6x the bet effective behind isn’t enough.

Hand two how many bluffs does villain need to make this a call? Good fold.

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89s plays better vs a cold 4bet range than KQs. Also he will hit most boards villain will miss and will play somewhat perfectly on most turns.
Of course, but with this SPR at this depth I don't see how the EV of calling is higher than the EV of folding.
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Old Today, 07:23 AM   #455
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vs a normal 4bet range (its BB vs SB) you get direct good odss, how can ev of folding be higher ?
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vs a normal 4bet range (its BB vs SB) you get direct good odss, how can ev of folding be higher ?
Do the direct good odds take into consideration you underrealise equity being OOP with this SRP? And rake too etc. The EV of folding and calling are definitely close imo, just don't see why everyone's saying it's a slamdunk.
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Is there a reason you 3b the 89s to $17? I expect the cold 4 to be slightly less likely to be light since your 3! Sizing was so big. At 100bb deep the call is going to struggle a lot. 89ss benefits a lot from initiative, think we just have a pretty clear fold.
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its not a big 3bet sb vs btn and its a standard call
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89s plays better vs a cold 4bet range than KQs. Also he will hit most boards villain will miss and will play somewhat perfectly on most turns.
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Think 89s is pretty reasonable, rather peel 76s and 87s but can’t see it being that bad
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89s oop seems a bad call to me in my micro playing mind. We’d need to be deeper, about 6x the bet effective behind isn’t enough.

Hand two how many bluffs does villain need to make this a call? Good fold.

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Of course, but with this SPR at this depth I don't see how the EV of calling is higher than the EV of folding.
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vs a normal 4bet range (its BB vs SB) you get direct good odss, how can ev of folding be higher ?
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Do the direct good odds take into consideration you underrealise equity being OOP with this SRP? And rake too etc. The EV of folding and calling are definitely close imo, just don't see why everyone's saying it's a slamdunk.
Thanks for the response, guys. Conclusively a debatable call then


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Hardly played any poker yesterday, but I'm looking forward to putting a long grind after the World Cup final.
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