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Old 07-14-2018, 10:58 AM   #451
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Is there a reason you 3b the 89s to $17? I expect the cold 4 to be slightly less likely to be light since your 3! Sizing was so big. At 100bb deep the call is going to struggle a lot. 89ss benefits a lot from initiative, think we just have a pretty clear fold.
89s plays better vs a cold 4bet range than KQs. Also he will hit most boards villain will miss and will play somewhat perfectly on most turns.
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Old 07-14-2018, 12:32 PM   #452
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Think 89s is pretty reasonable, rather peel 76s and 87s but can’t see it being that bad
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:47 PM   #453
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89s oop seems a bad call to me in my micro playing mind. We’d need to be deeper, about 6x the bet effective behind isn’t enough.

Hand two how many bluffs does villain need to make this a call? Good fold.

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89s plays better vs a cold 4bet range than KQs. Also he will hit most boards villain will miss and will play somewhat perfectly on most turns.
Of course, but with this SPR at this depth I don't see how the EV of calling is higher than the EV of folding.
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:23 AM   #455
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vs a normal 4bet range (its BB vs SB) you get direct good odss, how can ev of folding be higher ?
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vs a normal 4bet range (its BB vs SB) you get direct good odss, how can ev of folding be higher ?
Do the direct good odds take into consideration you underrealise equity being OOP with this SRP? And rake too etc. The EV of folding and calling are definitely close imo, just don't see why everyone's saying it's a slamdunk.
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Is there a reason you 3b the 89s to $17? I expect the cold 4 to be slightly less likely to be light since your 3! Sizing was so big. At 100bb deep the call is going to struggle a lot. 89ss benefits a lot from initiative, think we just have a pretty clear fold.
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its not a big 3bet sb vs btn and its a standard call
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89s plays better vs a cold 4bet range than KQs. Also he will hit most boards villain will miss and will play somewhat perfectly on most turns.
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Think 89s is pretty reasonable, rather peel 76s and 87s but can’t see it being that bad
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89s oop seems a bad call to me in my micro playing mind. We’d need to be deeper, about 6x the bet effective behind isn’t enough.

Hand two how many bluffs does villain need to make this a call? Good fold.

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Of course, but with this SPR at this depth I don't see how the EV of calling is higher than the EV of folding.
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vs a normal 4bet range (its BB vs SB) you get direct good odss, how can ev of folding be higher ?
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Do the direct good odds take into consideration you underrealise equity being OOP with this SRP? And rake too etc. The EV of folding and calling are definitely close imo, just don't see why everyone's saying it's a slamdunk.
Thanks for the response, guys. Conclusively a debatable call then


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Old 07-16-2018, 02:55 PM   #458
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Vs guy who was a standard reg and is now in the 10% 3bet crew

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935064

    CO: $204.30 (102.2 bb)
    BTN: $202 (101 bb)
    SB: $208.50 (104.3 bb)
    BB: $226.90 (113.5 bb)
    UTG+1: $349.21 (174.6 bb)
    Hero (UTG+2): $234.69 (117.3 bb)
    MP1: $215.55 (107.8 bb)
    MP2: $211.13 (105.6 bb)
    MP3: $203 (101.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q T
    UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $5, 4 folds, BTN raises to $13, 2 folds, Hero calls $8

    Flop: ($29) 5 7 A (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $8.27, Hero raises to $27, BTN calls $18.73

    Turn: ($83) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $57, BTN calls $57

    River: ($197) T (2 players)
    Hero bets $137.69 and is all-in, BTN calls $105 and is all-in

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    Vs reg who'd lost like 3 stacks within the last orbit and was tilting super hard haha


      Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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      UTG+1: $206.98 (103.5 bb)
      UTG+2: $417.84 (208.9 bb)
      MP1: $203 (101.5 bb)
      MP2: $200 (100 bb)
      MP3: $227.85 (113.9 bb)
      Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)
      BTN: $439.91 (220 bb)
      SB: $443.25 (221.6 bb)
      BB: $293.31 (146.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
      UTG+1 calls $2, UTG+2 raises to $6, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $22, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $52, 5 folds, MP2 calls $30

      Flop: ($115) T 2 6 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $30.31, MP2 calls $30.31

      Turn: ($175.62) A (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero checks

      River: ($175.62) 3 (2 players)
      MP2 bets $95.08, Hero raises to $117.69 and is all-in, MP2 folds

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      Vs two regs. Had to think I was toast on the turn???

        Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935066

        MP2: $206.98 (103.5 bb)
        MP3: $421.84 (210.9 bb)
        CO: $200 (100 bb)
        BTN: $255.17 (127.6 bb)
        SB: $228.85 (114.4 bb)
        Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
        UTG+1: $238.66 (119.3 bb)
        UTG+2: $200 (100 bb)
        MP1: $293.31 (146.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
        UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $6, 4 folds, BTN calls $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $27, UTG+2 calls $21, BTN calls $21

        Flop: ($82) J 7 5 (3 players)
        Hero bets $20, UTG+2 calls $20, BTN calls $20

        Turn: ($142) 6 (3 players)
        Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $45.95, BTN calls $45.95, Hero folds

        River: ($233.90) 4 (2 players)
        UTG+2 bets $107.05 and is all-in, BTN calls $107.05

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        Old 07-17-2018, 01:48 PM   #459
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        Not really any interesting hands worth posting, but what was pretty awesome was that I had quads twice and a straight flush in 1k hands




        Vs complete unknown

          Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935084

          BTN: $54.99 (55 bb)
          SB: $56.75 (56.8 bb)
          BB: $111.16 (111.2 bb)
          Hero (UTG+2): $100 (100 bb)
          MP1: $181.05 (181.1 bb)
          MP2: $103.68 (103.7 bb)
          MP3: $120.59 (120.6 bb)
          CO: $109.82 (109.8 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K T
          Hero raises to $2.50, 6 folds, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $3.50

          Flop: ($12.50) K K 2 (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

          Turn: ($24.50) 3 (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero bets $15.50, BB calls $15.50

          River: ($55.50) K (2 players)
          BB bets $83.66 and is all-in, Hero calls $72.50 and is all-in

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          standard fish

            Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935085

            SB: $265.18 (132.6 bb)
            BB: $246.32 (123.2 bb)
            UTG: $214.23 (107.1 bb)
            MP: $205 (102.5 bb)
            Hero (CO): $217.85 (108.9 bb)
            BTN: $80 (40 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 5
            UTG calls $2, MP folds, Hero raises to $7, 3 folds, UTG calls $5

            Flop: ($17) 5 2 3 (2 players)
            UTG checks, Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12

            Turn: ($41) 5 (2 players)
            UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10

            River: ($61) J (2 players)
            UTG checks, Hero bets $44, UTG folds

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            Vs super agro fish. Can't believe he didn't bluff river

              Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935086

              MP2: $89 (44.5 bb)
              MP3: $329.67 (164.8 bb)
              CO: $205 (102.5 bb)
              BTN: $300.79 (150.4 bb)
              SB: $409.69 (204.8 bb)
              BB: $446 (223 bb)
              Hero (UTG+2): $200 (100 bb)
              MP1: $283.23 (141.6 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K Q
              Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP3 calls $5, 4 folds

              Flop: ($13) T 9 3 (2 players)
              Hero bets $4, MP3 calls $4

              Turn: ($21) 5 (2 players)
              Hero bets $14, MP3 calls $14

              River: ($49) J (2 players)
              Hero checks, MP3 checks

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              Old 07-18-2018, 10:01 PM   #460
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              Vs big winning reg. Obviously pre and flop are bad, but I don't hate his play on the turn and river tbh. Regs definitely don't defend enough of their range vs aggression like this.

                Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935092

                Hero (SB): $204 (102 bb)
                BB: $51.16 (25.6 bb)
                MP1: $100 (50 bb)
                MP2: $376.03 (188 bb)
                MP3: $381.12 (190.6 bb)
                CO: $200 (100 bb)
                BTN: $294.41 (147.2 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
                4 folds, BTN raises to $5, Hero raises to $22, BB folds, BTN calls $17

                Flop: ($46) 5 3 5 (2 players)
                Hero bets $22.16, BTN calls $22.16

                Turn: ($90.32) K (2 players)
                Hero bets $31.64, BTN raises to $63.28, Hero calls $31.64

                River: ($216.88) T (2 players)
                Hero checks, BTN bets $139.18, Hero calls $96.56 and is all-in

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                Opener is a weak reg and cold caller is a loose reg. Might look very spewy but I had the blocker

                  Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935093

                  MP: $109.85 (54.9 bb)
                  CO: $207.40 (103.7 bb)
                  BTN: $197 (98.5 bb)
                  Hero (SB): $201 (100.5 bb)
                  BB: $204.40 (102.2 bb)
                  UTG: $219.05 (109.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is SB with A 3
                  UTG raises to $4.40, 3 folds, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $18, UTG calls $15.60

                  Flop: ($60) 7 K 8 (3 players)
                  Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks

                  Turn: ($60) K (3 players)
                  Hero bets $52.58, BB calls $52.58, UTG folds

                  River: ($165.16) 2 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $128.42 and is all-in, BB calls $128.42

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                  Old 07-18-2018, 11:41 PM   #461
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                  Struggle to see how J8dd is a big winning reg tbh,
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                  Old 07-19-2018, 09:25 AM   #462
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                  guessing it's vs dnd?
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                  Old 07-19-2018, 09:39 AM   #463
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                  surely he can pick way better hands than Jd8d
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                  Old 07-19-2018, 10:09 AM   #464
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                  guessing it's vs dnd?
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                  Old 07-19-2018, 01:07 PM   #465
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                  Struggle to see how J8dd is a big winning reg tbh,
                  Pre is somewhat ok, flop is atrocious, turn is such a spazz but it can be +ev, otr what are you folding? Vs a fish we should just call turn and fold a lot OTR because minraises are super nutted, but vs a reg we cant expect his turn minraise to be as nutted. I would be surprised if you had a folding range OTR, so his jam is burning 50bb in there.

                  He could be a good player, but even good players still are capable of making bad plays saying his play was good is just overestimating him for no reason. Gotta learn with a good player when he plays well, not when he is randomly tilting.
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                  Old 07-19-2018, 11:29 PM   #466
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                  Yeh I'd snaptag the guy as a Muppet tbh
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                  Old 07-20-2018, 05:51 AM   #467
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                  guessing it's vs dnd?
                  lmao, the god of 400fr
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                  Old 07-20-2018, 06:16 AM   #468
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                  ah yeah that makes sense, I've long suspected he's a bot because of some the outrageous bluffs he pulls.
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                  ah yeah that makes sense, I've long suspected he's a bot because of some the outrageous bluffs he pulls.
                  You should report him. You don't buy a ticket, you can't win the raffle, son.




                  Vs reg with super high 3bet. Honestly wasn't happy otr because I'm getting stacked by AA here ~70% of the time I would guess.

                    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935117

                    SB: $402 (100.5 bb)
                    BB: $589.39 (147.3 bb)
                    MP1: $691.90 (173 bb)
                    MP2: $553.24 (138.3 bb)
                    MP3: $815.30 (203.8 bb)
                    Hero (CO): $400 (100 bb)
                    BTN: $400 (100 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
                    MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $12, MP3 raises to $36, Hero calls $36, 3 folds, MP2 calls $24

                    Flop: ($114) A K 8 (3 players)
                    MP2 checks, MP3 bets $44.40, Hero calls $44.40, MP2 folds

                    Turn: ($202.80) 4 (2 players)
                    MP3 bets $79.92, Hero calls $79.92

                    River: ($362.64) 2 (2 players)
                    MP3 bets $568.23, Hero calls $239.68 and is all-in

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                    Don't really know what the GTO line would be here vs a whale that's caught some heat on the table. This seems a bit grey but it's probably the only way I stack the mid part of his range so I guess it must be okay.

                      Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935120

                      UTG+1: $409.96 (102.5 bb)
                      UTG+2: $535.85 (134 bb)
                      MP1: $826.44 (206.6 bb)
                      MP2: $400 (100 bb)
                      MP3: $267.91 (67 bb)
                      CO: $1,867.09 (466.8 bb)
                      BTN: $544.48 (136.1 bb)
                      SB: $488.44 (122.1 bb)
                      Hero (BB): $435.64 (108.9 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
                      5 folds, CO raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $50, CO calls $38

                      Flop: ($102) 5 3 4 (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $49.50, Hero raises to $385.64 and is all-in, CO calls $336.14

                      Turn: ($873.28) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                      River: ($873.28) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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                      Going to cut out 400nl for a few days. This is probably a huge mental game leak I have, but I've been running good there and I can just feel the doomswitch coming
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                      This game couldn't be easier sometimes...

                        Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935129

                        Hero (CO): $240 (120 bb)
                        BTN: $203 (101.5 bb)
                        SB: $381.71 (190.9 bb)
                        BB: $186.20 (93.1 bb)
                        UTG+2: $276.71 (138.4 bb)
                        MP1: $243.02 (121.5 bb)
                        MP2: $281.72 (140.9 bb)
                        MP3: $200 (100 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 4
                        4 folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB raises to $16, Hero calls $11

                        Flop: ($33) 4 9 6 (2 players)
                        BB bets $170.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $170.20

                        Turn: ($373.40) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                        River: ($373.40) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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                        Vs new reg I had no info on.

                          Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935130

                          CO: $101.84 (50.9 bb)
                          Hero (BTN): $319.57 (159.8 bb)
                          SB: $228.41 (114.2 bb)
                          BB: $204.25 (102.1 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q 5
                          CO folds, Hero raises to $4.40, SB folds, BB calls $2.40

                          Flop: ($9.80) 9 3 J (2 players)
                          BB checks, Hero bets $2.51, BB calls $2.51

                          Turn: ($14.82) 8 (2 players)
                          BB checks, Hero bets $10.98, BB calls $10.98

                          River: ($36.78) A (2 players)
                          BB checks, Hero bets $49.39, BB calls $49.39

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                          Vs same guy about 30 mins later. Would think because he caught me last time he'd think I'd be much more likely to have value this time. Pain.

                            Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935131

                            UTG: $95.83 (47.9 bb)
                            MP: $392.16 (196.1 bb)
                            CO: $244.13 (122.1 bb)
                            Hero (BTN): $204 (102 bb)
                            SB: $255.11 (127.6 bb)
                            BB: $272.91 (136.5 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 8
                            3 folds, Hero raises to $4.40, SB folds, BB calls $2.40

                            Flop: ($9.80) 6 J 7 (2 players)
                            BB checks, Hero bets $2.93, BB calls $2.93

                            Turn: ($15.66) Q (2 players)
                            BB checks, Hero bets $26.68, BB calls $26.68

                            River: ($69.02) A (2 players)
                            BB checks, Hero bets $169.99 and is all-in, BB calls $169.99

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                            Old Today, 02:30 AM   #471
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                            Re: Watch me become the hardest working ssnl player in the world! ***Freerolls ITT***

                            Wow, sick overbets, haha! Good to see fr people going for the vaaaamo!

                            What are you betting for value in the last hand?
                            In the Q5 hand I dont like overbetting that much after a normal sizing OTT. If we had overbet turn we could have some jams otr, mostly straights for value though, AA blocks a lot of hands that would call the overbet, so its good for a small sizing.

                            Btw, I think his call is insane, sure, he blocks the nuts, but you have so few bluffs otr in that texture and he cant have the nuts, because he didnt have odds to call OTT, so you can jam JJ/QQ for value there
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                            Re: Watch me become the hardest working ssnl player in the world! ***Freerolls ITT***

                            Is balance a priority for you guys? I mean nl100+ players?


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                            Re: Watch me become the hardest working ssnl player in the world! ***Freerolls ITT***

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                            Of course, but with this SPR at this depth I don't see how the EV of calling is higher than the EV of folding.
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                            Do the direct good odds take into consideration you underrealise equity being OOP with this SRP? And rake too etc. The EV of folding and calling are definitely close imo, just don't see why everyone's saying it's a slamdunk.
                            Rofl.
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                            Old Today, 03:49 PM   #474
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                            Re: Watch me become the hardest working ssnl player in the world! ***Freerolls ITT***

                            & I though donos are capped to NL5z, congrats
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