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02-12-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Reemix
274 - gii yes.
275 - don't mind a bigger 3bet preflop. I'd do 0.75*3.5+0.75. Flop depends on PFR and fold to cbet. If he has a wide range and folds to cbets often I like a cbet. Usually a good flop to c/f though.
276 - fine call preflop, he made it relatively small and ofc fish can come along. Raising flop would be kinda terrible, you isolate yourself against better hands. Turn I think is a fold if you haven't seen anything crazy/unusual from villain thus far.
Thanks mate. I agreed on turn fold on #276 originally but after some discussion I think it might be a call. Just can't see a good value hand overbetting here.
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Originally Posted by sangalla
274: yes gii.
275: i hate it, but yeah x/f
276: call. He could be targetted the fish also.
Thanks. In #276 the fish has folded on the flop. Still think same?
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02-12-2014 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KP24
I agreed on turn fold on #276 originally but after some discussion I think it might be a call. Just can't see a good value hand overbetting here.
how much do you think he would bet with AK? If he bets 10 and you call, the pot is ~35 by the river and effective stacks are ~11 (he can't c/f river for that amount). So if he bets 10, you would have immediate odds to call with FD and OESD (call 10 to win ~59).

well...I thought it over and leaning towards a call now. You need 37% eq to be break even. Vs this range you are slightly behind but add a couple of A9 or random spazzes and you're good.

Board: Ac5h4hTs
Equity Win Tie
MP2 64.42% 56.19% 8.23% { ATs+, KhQh, ATo+ }
MP3 35.58% 27.35% 8.23% { AhJh }
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02-12-2014 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reemix
how much do you think he would bet with AK? If he bets 10 and you call, the pot is ~35 by the river and effective stacks are ~11 (he can't c/f river for that amount). So if he bets 10, you would have immediate odds to call with FD and OESD (call 10 to win ~59).

well...I thought it over and leaning towards a call now. You need 37% eq to be break even. Vs this range you are slightly behind but add a couple of A9 or random spazzes and you're good.

Board: Ac5h4hTs
Equity Win Tie
MP2 64.42% 56.19% 8.23% { ATs+, KhQh, ATo+ }
MP3 35.58% 27.35% 8.23% { AhJh }
You know, I always admire a person who is willing to change their mind. Yes, I agree it is very close. I think I folded pretty damn quick though!
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02-13-2014 , 05:35 AM
Schedule and Goals Update - 13.02.2014

Schedule 13th February 2014

09.00 - 12.00 = Update schedule, post marked hands.
12.00 - 14.00 = Catch up with group, comment on 2 forum hands.
14.00 - 17.00 = Janda study (at work).
20.15 - 21.00 = Work on my video reviews.
21.00 - 22.30 = At the tables.
10.45 - 04.00 = Powernap
04.00 - 04.30 = Train TKD.
04.40 - 06.40 = At the tables.



Goal 1 - Play 60 hours in February - Played 27.9 hours which is 46.5% of target, month is 42.9% old. 2 hours 10 mins ahead, will definitely need this buffer.

Goal 2 - Post all marked hands to blog and/or Skype group and send link to staker - Yep, other than staker in Mexico so saving them all for his return!!.

Goal 3 - Comment on all of friends' hands in Skype Group (unless day off) - Done.

Goal 4 - Comment on two HH's other than on Skype - Done (using web app for reminder on this, quite good).

Goal 5 - Study Janda - Loving this. It is really hard work for me but I hope it will improve my theoretical understanding massively.

Goal 6 - Post weekly review to group - Planned for tonight to work on mine, could end up doing Simon's on Monday which is last night!!.

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To be fair I won two flips in these sessions so was not so good other than that. Too much cold calling and floating for my usual nitty self for some reason.
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02-13-2014 , 06:49 AM
277: i think you'll get snapped too often here. i dont think he raises otf with air too much and he has more sdv than draws in his range since you block a lot. you can pick lower fd's to bet river w/ since yuo'll need bluffs or some A5ss or 65ss / 65hh / 65cc

278: std x/c otf
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02-13-2014 , 07:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KP24
Thanks mate. I agreed on turn fold on #276 originally but after some discussion I think it might be a call. Just can't see a good value hand overbetting here.

Thanks. In #276 the fish has folded on the flop. Still think same?
Yeah. BB squeeze with wide range. CB wide range. And then pretty much committed on the turn. And we only need ~40% to call, right?
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02-13-2014 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Reemix
how much do you think he would bet with AK? If he bets 10 and you call, the pot is ~35 by the river and effective stacks are ~11 (he can't c/f river for that amount). So if he bets 10, you would have immediate odds to call with FD and OESD (call 10 to win ~59).

well...I thought it over and leaning towards a call now. You need 37% eq to be break even. Vs this range you are slightly behind but add a couple of A9 or random spazzes and you're good.

Board: Ac5h4hTs
Equity Win Tie
MP2 64.42% 56.19% 8.23% { ATs+, KhQh, ATo+ }
MP3 35.58% 27.35% 8.23% { AhJh }
Yeah agree.....
also villain range might be plus: KK, QQ, semi bluff, and some stone cold bluff.
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02-13-2014 , 08:21 AM
277: I dont know.
278: I dont know.

Will like to see explanation about this hands
Interesting hands. That's why they told me: "don't play this at home!!" (preflop rule)


Fish

Last edited by sangalla; 02-13-2014 at 08:27 AM.
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02-13-2014 , 08:27 AM
Additionally you can overbet in h1 but i see some ppl xb sets ott so probably not too capped of a range there
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02-13-2014 , 10:26 AM
KP24: why don't you post these hands in the Micro Stakes NL forum? I'd be more inclined to discuss them there because more ppl are giving their opinion and can point out where I'm wrong. And I feel like I'm polluting this thread when I ask too many questions and debate with others about lines

When I was reading through this blog I skipped most of the hands because I wasn't part of the discussion. I was more interested in little stories about your life, pics of houses and success talk.

Just a little food for thought

Here's a video you have probably seen but if not you might like it:

Spoiler:
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02-14-2014 , 05:31 AM
Schedule and Goals Update - 14.02.2014

Schedule 14th February 2014

09.00 - 12.00 = Update schedule, post marked hands.
12.00 - 14.00 = Catch up with group, comment on 2 forum hands.
14.00 - 16.00 = Janda study (at work).
17.00 - 19.30 = Play with my kids!!
19.30 - 23.00 = Romance!?!?!?!?
23.00 - 05.00 = Powernap
05.00 - 05.30 = Train TKD.
05.30 - 07.00 = At the tables.



Goal 1 - Play 60 hours in February - Played 30.2 hours which is 50.3% of target, month is 46.4% old. 2 hours 24 mins ahead. Weekend could use that up!

Goal 2 - Post all marked hands to blog and/or Skype group and send link to staker - Yep. (Staker in Mexico so saving them all for his return!!).

Goal 3 - Comment on all of friends' hands in Skype Group (unless day off) - Done.

Goal 4 - Comment on two HH's other than on Skype - Done (using web app for reminder on this, quite good).

Goal 5 - Study Janda - Yes, done. Really deep maths right now so I am going over it again and again until I get it 100%.

Goal 6 - Post weekly review to group - Going to do Simon's on Monday. Got some stuff prepared for my session on Sunday night.

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I don't think my mental game was A game last night and I am not sure why. I ran pretty bad mainly in card distribution (although stacked off (intentionally) with TPTK versus fish who was calling TPNK and he hit two pair on the river committed) and I think I started losing focus which is not like me. It was just one of those sessions where you 3bet the guy who has 100% fold v 3b and he 4 bets you and then you get 3bet versus the bottom of your stealing range etc etc etc...
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02-14-2014 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by KP24
19.30 - 23.00 = Romance!?!?!?!?
pics needed imo
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02-14-2014 , 08:01 AM
02-14-2014 , 10:44 AM
279 - turn maybe a bit bigger. River depends on your image. Great bluff card so with appropriate image (doesn't have to be anything crazy just standard good aggressive regular image I guess) you can bomb river to balance and get calls from 9x, 8x, TT.
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02-14-2014 , 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reemix
279 - turn maybe a bit bigger. River depends on your image. Great bluff card so with appropriate image (doesn't have to be anything crazy just standard good aggressive regular image I guess) you can bomb river to balance and get calls from 9x, 8x, TT.
Ok, you got me here!! So I am betting for value on the river because villain thinks I will bluff this card some percentage and will therefore call wider? If that is so, what bluffs do I have in my range please mate?

Also, I meant to reply to your comment yesterday... I really appreciate your comments in here on hands, don't worry at all about clogging thread or whatever. I did used to post hands in micro forum but it was not working as an improvement process for me for some reason.
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02-14-2014 , 11:10 AM
This is not a good spot to trm at all. There are 2 obv reasons why its not, now go figure it out!
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02-15-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by KP24
What is he calling with on the flop and on the turn ? Especially considering he called from BB !! River is worst card for us. I don't like bluffing here (but I don't have enough experience with bluffing at all) - what you gonna do if he gonna reraise you? It seems to me you're up against quite agressive guy. So, why not let him bluff here ? I think its possible he will try to 1) take the pot down on this river with a bluff time to time 2) think he got best hand and bet for value while we are ahed 3) ofc he will bet his nuts. Depends on the sizing if we call or fold imho.
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02-15-2014 , 11:40 AM
274 - what he could possible be raising here ? AK, Kx, TT, flush draw and AA maybe ? Anyway I don't think we have other option but get it in ? Since he is passive fish I don't think he is bluffing here like ever. He probably thinks he has best hand/good draw.
275 - What kind of fish ? Passive ? If so, bet 1/2 of the pot to take it down right away. If he raises or calls we give up unless we hit our A or K on the turn imho.
276 - Imho 4bet PRE and/or get it in on the flop !! How much is he folding to 4bet ? Any stats ? How much is he cbeting in 3bet pots ?
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02-15-2014 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel10
BTW how long do you plan to grind .25/.50 for 3 hours a day? If you do well financially with your job and rentals, I'd think there's more utility in hanging with kids/wife or napping, haha. I think these small levels are awful for learning poker if you're 16 or older. You're doing a great job with the reading though, and esp using the HUD.

I LoLed at your 1 hr 43 min "session" . . . anything under 6 hrs for me is not a "session" -- best of luck with everything, you seem like one motivated dude.
Eh. I think 25/50 is great place to learn solid poker play. What stakes are you playing ? Where do you think people should learn ? At 1/2 ? People are making living out of 25/50. You gotta be playing nosebleeds prolly, right ? Get lost dude.
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02-15-2014 , 11:48 AM
265 - imho WP. He seems to be quite aggro and opening with wider range and still calling a lot (3bets). So its close, but we can imho 3bet TT for value here. Question is if we should be the flop or not. Imho no, because we have hand somewhere between pure value (but still small pot) and showdown value hand. As played imho ok to call. He seems to be betting the river small for thin value, so maybe he has 99-22 or A high. Ofc if he happend to have King I think we will loose almost minimum. Also if he has NUTs same story.
266 - Bet the flop. Don't care about stats unless SUPER SUPER ULTRA NIT. Everybody is making mistake aka calling more than he should in generall. Even guys with solid stats.
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02-17-2014 , 04:11 AM
GL OP

I've only read through the first 200 posts, and this thread has motivated me to get back to work..
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02-17-2014 , 06:03 AM
Schedule and Goals Update - 17.02.2014

Schedule 17th February 2014

09.00 - 12.00 = Update schedule, post weekly update, post marked hands.
12.00 - 14.00 = Catch up with group, comment on 2 forum hands.
14.00 - 17.00 = Janda study (at work).
20.30 - 22.30 = Simon's review and then play if any time left.
23.00 - 05.00 = Powernap
05.00 - 05.30 = Train TKD.
05.30 - 07.00 = At the tables.



Goal 1 - Play 60 hours in February - Played 35.0 hours which is 58.3% of target, month is 57.1% old. 42 mins ahead. Done well to keep ahead!

Goal 2 - Post all marked hands to blog and/or Skype group and send link to staker - Yep. (Staker in Mexico so saving them all for his return!!).

Goal 3 - Comment on all of friends' hands in Skype Group (unless day off) - Done by PM.

Goal 4 - Comment on two HH's other than on Skype - Done but not on day off (using web app for reminder on this, quite good).

Goal 5 - Study Janda - None over the weekend which is ok but not good enough for a So

Goal 6 - Post weekly review to group - Planned in for tonight.

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Results meh but EV winrate was positive. Definitely played better again. Still feeling comfortable at NL25.
Had session with group to review all of my reviews of my video. I did learn a lot from those reviews. I found lots of spots I can call getting ok odds and I was always folding. This goes back a long time whne I decided to fold all marginal spots to prevent postflop spew but I can work on this now (thanks guys). Mental game was A+.
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02-17-2014 , 06:36 AM
Weekly Progress Update 17.02.2014

Graph for week



Comments:
Oooh another losing week! No worries, very small sample. Definitely improving tonnes in thought process lately thanks to guys in my Skype groups. Overall very happy with progress.
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02-17-2014 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dissection
Eh. I think 25/50 is great place to learn solid poker play. What stakes are you playing ? Where do you think people should learn ? At 1/2 ? People are making living out of 25/50. You gotta be playing nosebleeds prolly, right ? Get lost dude.
Hahahaha, Dirty Harry just spanked your butt Daniel!!!

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Originally Posted by Skellig Michael
GL OP

I've only read through the first 200 posts, and this thread has motivated me to get back to work..
Hi mate. That's great to hear. Thanks for GL and same to you!

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I see from an email we had another "hater" in here slating me. Thanks to whoever reported it. Shame.
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