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Mzbourg 03-10-2014 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...|... (Post 42456260)
Still think its weird that you have like 1mil hand winning at 3/6-10/20 and the guy wants you to start low and build yourself his staking roll. Hopefully he gave you 70%+ to counter that bs

Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the risk involved? Not just talking about hero's history with flipping for his roll but for example his last post where he was on "monkey tilt", granted he won a load this week the point still stands.

blakkman08 03-10-2014 09:21 AM

Juuuuust maaaaybe.... Butnaaaaaaahh

eddymitchel 03-10-2014 09:25 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
you dont see why a backer might be worried by a tilting shot taking flipping degen, and start lower than urubu is used to play ?
If urubu can show some discipline i m sure that guy will be happy to let him play higher, and playing on a stake might save urubu from his demons.

Mzbourg 03-10-2014 09:25 AM

Meeeeeh it sounded like a good point when I went over it in my head. It actually still does.

...|... 03-10-2014 09:28 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzbourg (Post 42456343)
Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with the risk involved? Not just talking about hero's history with flipping for his roll but for example his last post where he was on "monkey tilt", granted he won a load this week the point still stands.

keep a starting roll and balance is everyday.

Make sure someone is online at all hours he plays to reload if necessary.

*mind blown*

Mzbourg 03-10-2014 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...|... (Post 42457023)
keep a starting roll and balance is everyday.

Make sure someone is online at all hours he plays to reload if necessary.

*mind blown*

Yeah the risk lies within the fact that his backer wouldn't be able to top him up. Not the fact that I don't know, if hero would've gotten the bankroll to play those stakes and ended up monkey tilting it away or degening it away flipping for his roll the money lost would be about 10 times more than right now.

*mind blown without an actual mind*

BigAisaOK 03-10-2014 10:09 AM

^^Above poster is correct and it's something I stated in HSPLO recently when urubu first mentioned the staking thing.

From a results perspective urubu is a dream. I mean the man just gets it done at the mid stakes and there is still good money to be made doing that. However, there is no doubt that his history of gambling and his mindset is a nightmare for a backer, not knowing if backing will be lost and fired off whenever urubu is feeling tilted etc.

However the fact that his backer is already advocating for him to move up suggest that the starting at 1/2 was likely a system to let him get his feet back in the water before tackling the slightly tougher games.

...|... 03-10-2014 10:43 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
You guys know that backers are investors and investments have risks.

Removing all the risks and all you have is a high interest loan which is illegal offline.

starting him at anything under 70% @ 1/2 is scammy as hell if he has to grind the roll for the higher limits

eddymitchel 03-10-2014 11:01 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
I m sure even urubu understand how damaged his image is and staking him without previous staking history is not anywhere to low risk high reward investing.

climbs 03-10-2014 05:07 PM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
what % off a deal is urubu on?

urubu111 03-10-2014 08:22 PM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
lol you guys especulating about my staking deal. )

played 1st day at 2/4, started playing good, but then i went nuts... i dont know what was going on my mind. :eek:



some hands:

#1 villain is a reg, who 3bet too much. so *** him, 4bet !! ops, he 5bet? ok vamooooo

by the way, tilt make me see poker hands like i see girls when im drunk. when drunk any girl looks adriana lima, and while tilted any trash hand looks a premium rundown :D

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($880)
BB ($1,173)
Hero ($712)

SB antes $0.80
BB antes $0.80
Hero antes $0.80

Dealt to Hero 4:diamond: Q:spade: K:diamond: 2:diamond:

Hero raises to $16.40, SB raises to $55.60,
fold, Hero raises to $173, SB raises to $526, Hero raises to $711 (AI), SB calls $185

FLOP ($1,429) 5:diamond: 3:spade: Q:heart:

TURN ($1,429) 5:diamond: 3:spade: Q:heart: 2:spade:

RIVER ($1,429) 5:diamond: 3:spade: Q:heart: 2:spade: 7:diamond:

SB shows 9:club: A:spade: A:heart: 3:club:
(Pre 64%, Flop 40.2%, Turn 20.0%)

Hero shows 4:diamond: Q:spade: K:diamond: 2:diamond:
(Pre 36%, Flop 59.8%, Turn 80.0%)

Hero wins $1,427



#2 A654ds is ok hand, but when your tilt o metter is above 7, A654ds looks AA65ds.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($382)
BB ($400)
UTG ($1,550)
UTG+1 ($409)
Hero ($400)
BTN ($418)

Dealt to Hero A:diamond: 5:club: 6:club: 4:diamond:

UTG calls $4, fold, Hero raises to $18, fold, SB raises to $62, BB calls $58, fold, Hero raises to $252, SB calls $190, BB calls $190

FLOP ($760) A:spade: 7:diamond: 3:heart:

SB bets $130 (AI), BB raises to $148 (AI), Hero calls $148 (AI)

TURN ($1,186) A:spade: 7:diamond: 3:heart: 8:diamond:

RIVER ($1,186) A:spade: 7:diamond: 3:heart: 8:diamond: 2:heart:

Hero shows A:diamond: 5:club: 6:club: 4:diamond:
(Pre 31%, Flop 50.3%, Turn 50.0%)

SB shows 5:spade: 8:club: 7:club: 9:club:
(Pre 22%, Flop 14.0%, Turn 11.1%)

BB shows T:club: A:club: 8:spade: Q:spade:
(Pre 47%, Flop 35.7%, Turn 38.9%)

Hero wins $1,183



#3 ilari style. potpotpot

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($355)
BB ($400)
Hero ($412)
CO ($1,063)
BTN ($846)

Dealt to Hero J:spade: K:club: 6:club: 4:spade:

Hero raises to $14, CO calls $14, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($34) 3:spade: 6:spade: 8:diamond:

Hero bets $32.47, CO calls $32.47

TURN ($98.94) 3:spade: 6:spade: 8:diamond: A:club:

Hero bets $96.14, CO calls $96.14

RIVER ($291) 3:spade: 6:spade: 8:diamond: A:club: T:heart:

Hero bets $269 (AI), CO calls $269

CO shows 8:heart: T:diamond: A:diamond: K:spade:
(Pre 54%, Flop 43.8%, Turn 80.0%)

Hero shows J:spade: K:club: 6:club: 4:spade:
(Pre 46%, Flop 56.2%, Turn 20.0%)

CO wins $827


still finished the day in the green... booked $300 win. lol

WhyDid I doThat :| 03-10-2014 09:06 PM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
Should be admitting to tilting when under a stake lol?

You have a sick WR at plo small-midstakes. Do you think you are the biggest winner/best player between 100-1kplo?

Who is the best player you've played with?

The day your English is perfect is the day you become slightly less loveable :D

LOLCh1pPorn 03-10-2014 09:11 PM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by urubu111 (Post 42464057)
by the way, tilt make me see poker hands like i see girls when im drunk. when drunk any girl looks adriana lima, and while tilted any trash hand looks a premium rundown :D

I love you for quotes like this :heart:

Spoiler:
Plz try not to tilt tho, want to see you crush!

Zima421 03-10-2014 09:28 PM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ...|... (Post 42457605)
You guys know that backers are investors and investments have risks.

Removing all the risks and all you have is a high interest loan which is illegal offline.

starting him at anything under 70% @ 1/2 is scammy as hell if he has to grind the roll for the higher limits

holy christ you are an idiot


just stop posting please

Mzbourg 03-11-2014 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zima421 (Post 42464900)
holy christ you are an idiot


just stop posting please

:)

*mind still blown*

urubu111 03-11-2014 08:33 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhyDid I doThat :| (Post 42464617)
Should be admitting to tilting when under a stake lol?

You have a sick WR at plo small-midstakes. Do you think you are the biggest winner/best player between 100-1kplo?

Who is the best player you've played with?

The day your English is perfect is the day you become slightly less loveable :D

- well , im trying focus max possible and play very concentrate, even more than when i was playing on my own. (its true, im not saying this because my backer read this thread) i know i shouldn't play tilted when playing staked, im trying dont play tilted, but....
by the way, my backer is very nice on this area. he gave some solid advice... and suggest to read one book. yesterday i sent him printscreen w my hud stats (50% vpip, 30% 3bet on some tables) and i thought he would say something like ''ok, go back to 1/2. '' or after seeing that KQ42 hand, ''send me back winnings, play w small roll you ******ed monkey'', but instead of that, he said i should decide if i want play 1/2 or 2/4 today. it was very nice. today i choose to play 1/2 (played lots of 0.5/1 too because not many 1/2 running and i dont like zoom).


- no, off course theres lots of players better than me at 400-1k plo.

- i dont think its possible to know who is the best player at poker, luck is very important and you never know if someone is good or very luck. i will answer durrrr because he play highstakes and i like him.

urubu111 03-11-2014 09:04 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
few hands from today session:

#1 3betting flop to induce/balance.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($172)
BB ($610)
CO ($218)
Hero ($248)

CO antes $0.40
Hero antes $0.40
SB antes $0.40
BB antes $0.40

Dealt to Hero A:spade: 6:diamond: 3:spade: A:diamond:

fold, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $5, fold

FLOP ($15.60) 2:club: 9:heart: 4:diamond:

SB checks, Hero bets $11.92, SB raises to $26, Hero raises to $51.08, SB raises to $165 (AI), Hero calls $114

TURN ($346) 2:club: 9:heart: 4:diamond: Q:club:

RIVER ($346) 2:club: 9:heart: 4:diamond: Q:club: 3:club:

Hero shows A:spade: 6:diamond: 3:spade: A:diamond:
(Pre 68%, Flop 24.1%, Turn 15.0%)

SB shows 4:heart: J:spade: J:heart: 4:club:
(Pre 32%, Flop 75.9%, Turn 85.0%)

SB wins $345


2# spewing at bling war against one reg... got married w my 7 blocker to 77 /K7 and giving some equity if he calls w non boat hands on turn.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
Hero ($200)
BB ($390)
BTN ($457)

Dealt to Hero 8:heart: Q:club: J:club: 7:diamond:

fold, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

FLOP ($12) 7:heart: K:spade: 3:heart:

Hero bets $8.02, BB raises to $22, Hero raises to $60.82, BB calls $38.82

TURN ($133) 7:heart: K:spade: 3:heart: 3:club:

Hero bets $132, BB raises to $324 (AI), Hero calls $1.04 (AI)

RIVER ($400) 7:heart: K:spade: 3:heart: 3:club: 6:spade:

Hero shows 8:heart: Q:club: J:club: 7:diamond:
(Pre 48%, Flop 22.0%, Turn 5.0%)

BB shows T:club: A:heart: K:heart: 5:spade:
(Pre 52%, Flop 78.0%, Turn 95.0%)

BB wins $398



#3 omg this flop... its the best felling on playing plo its hitting this flops. all nut wraps w 2bdfd in 3bet pot

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($218)
BB ($200)
UTG ($283)
UTG+1 ($269)
Hero ($211)
BTN ($219)

Dealt to Hero 5:spade: 6:spade: 7:heart: J:heart:

fold, UTG+1 raises to $7, Hero raises to $24, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $17

FLOP ($51) 8:spade: 4:heart: 3:club:

UTG+1 bets $48.70, Hero raises to $187 (AI), UTG+1 calls $139

TURN ($426) 8:spade: 4:heart: 3:club: 6:diamond:

RIVER ($426) 8:spade: 4:heart: 3:club: 6:diamond: 2:heart:

Hero shows 5:spade: 6:spade: 7:heart: J:heart:
(Pre 64%, Flop 50.6%, Turn 90.0%)

UTG+1 shows 4:club: 2:spade: T:heart: 3:spade:
(Pre 36%, Flop 49.4%, Turn 10.0%)

Hero wins $424

VonBaranow 03-11-2014 09:43 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
"by the way, tilt make me see poker hands like i see girls when im drunk. when drunk any girl looks adriana lima, and while tilted any trash hand looks a premium rundown"

best analogy of tilt I have ever seem

VonBaranow 03-11-2014 09:53 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
if you dont mind answering, whats your setup? i think i remember you saying u played 24 tables, you tile or stack? have 2 monitors, use table ninja?

gl today

BetAgainst 03-12-2014 06:34 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
I need to get one in so...

Spoiler:

Vvamoooooooooooooooo!


plus love

plus


PandaLife 03-12-2014 07:03 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
omg this is a snapsub, vvvaammmmmmoooooooooooooooooo keep crushing it!! :heart:

urubu111 03-12-2014 08:50 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VonBaranow (Post 42470807)
if you dont mind answering, whats your setup? i think i remember you saying u played 24 tables, you tile or stack? have 2 monitors, use table ninja?

gl today

i play tile w 30' monitor. dont use table ninja.

YoePo 03-12-2014 07:39 PM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
What's you are hud layout??

plock 03-14-2014 06:26 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
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set4vegas 03-15-2014 07:29 AM

Re: VvamooooooO 14 - Omaha
 
Posting in what will be the best PGC ever

GL Urubu

Vamoooooooooooooooo


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