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12-07-2017 , 11:37 PM
Good catch on the 98, more reason to fold. Oh and it's calling ~1k to win a sidepot of 1500, not looking so good.
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12-08-2017 , 06:32 AM
Your only play on that river is to vomit.
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12-08-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyqtp
i mean you need him to have AJ here - personally i would snap fold all AJ combos besides AJhh to your turn lead & a lot of people don't raise rivers that thinly anyway.

how fast did he call turn/raise river.
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Agree that you’re probably beat here. Is 98hh possible from original raiser? Much more liekly they have a set.
No this v would not cbet that hand OTF, as well as KQ so he has neither of those. Basically only 77/AA (or some bluff? idk)

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Your only play on that river is to vomit.
Yep, I made a pretty big fuss (which I never do) and got some laughs out of bystanders lol. Literal vomit basically.

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Originally Posted by NeA
Good catch on the 98, more reason to fold. Oh and it's calling ~1k to win a sidepot of 1500, not looking so good.
the fact that I know this V can't have KQ & 98 as played made this even harder. basically only 77 & AA (maybe a bluff)

So basically we vomit (thanks Meale for the visual) and make the fold.

PFR shows AA, CO mucks. We survive another day.
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12-08-2017 , 01:19 PM
Yeah I think it's a pretty easy fold after we have emptied our stomach. Occasionally they'll both just rock up with cheese and you'll kick yourself, but the vast majority of the time, we're getting set over set.
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12-08-2017 , 06:05 PM
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Yeah I think it's a pretty easy fold after we have emptied our stomach. Occasionally they'll both just rock up with cheese and you'll kick yourself, but the vast majority of the time, we're getting set over set.
Good points, very true.

Now that the stomach is emptied, time for back to back sessions this weekend!
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12-10-2017 , 07:42 PM
Snow & Poker Part I


Got in some Friday night action poker. In the first of back to back sessions we played some interesting hands.

In hand one we pick up QQ on the button and make it 30 facing three limps. The BB who is a bad reg makes it 85 to go with 205 behind. All the limpers fold and we decide to flat. The flop comes A3T l. V quickly jams 205. I didn’t think he’d do this with AK or AA since there’s no reason to overbet jam it in here with these stacks. Even clueless players understand this. We decide to call after some though and are up against QQ lol.

Next up we look down at A2 and overlimp the CO After three limpers. The SB completes and the Bb checks and gets us to a 25T. The blinds check and an EP limper leads for 25. the HJ calls, and we bump it up to 115. Only the player who lead out calls and we see a 4 on the turn. He checks to us and we be 180. At this point villain looks down at his stack, and asks me how much Im playing. We have 500 behind after the 180 wager. He makes the call and we go to the A on the river. He immediately leads for 200. We make the call and are good.

In our last interesting hand we’re dealt KK on the button and are faced with 3 limps. We make it 30 to go, the SB calls who is the same villain from hand one. This causes the BB, and all three limpers to call. We go 6 way to a flop of Q97. There are three checks to another bad reg who makes it 45. We call and the SB comes along as well. The turn is the 3. The SB leads this time for 175 with 250 behind. The player who lead the turn folds. We make the call and see a 7 on the river. He wagers 130. At this point I think were ahead and jam the final 120 in there, and he folds (lol)

Had another good weekend overall, and some fun hands from Saturday coming soon, including a hand where I make a pretty big mistake.





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12-12-2017 , 06:18 PM
Snow & Poker - Part II

At 11:00 the snow was coming down but it was time to get to the Poker room! Made it safely before things got bad but the next 12 hours we would be sick in the Poker room as things got interesting outside.

In our first interesting hand of the session we make it 20 to go 7 handed from UTG with J9. We get only a call from The HJ and see a flop of KT6. Alright, about as close as we can get. We follow up with a cbet of 25, and he calls. On the turn we get a little closer, the 8. This time we wager 60, and villain once again calls. The river is the one we’re looking for, the 4. We make it 175, and feel a bit uneasy when we get the snapcall from villain who beats us into the pot. But we are indeed good, and scoop a nice one there.

In our next interesting hand we pick up KQ and make it 20 to go from MP1. The BTN, SB, BB all call and we go to another interesting flop of AQ2 The blinds check to us, and we decide to check. I can see a case for betting but this seems like a decent spot to check. The BTN checks and we see a J giving us the royal draw OTT. The blinds check again, and this time we wager 55. The BTN folds, and the SB makes it 150 with 500 behind. The BB folds and we have an easy call here. The river bails is out, the 3 giving us the nuts. In what is even better news, villain leads for 175 into us. We jam in 500 total, and villain goes deep into the tank. After a minute I hear him say”flopped too two” and 20 seconds later he makes the call.

Next up we see two limps, and a raise to 40 from a reg on tilt OTB (down 2k in a 500 cap). We make it 125 to go in the SB with AK. He calls and we see a flop of 962:spade. We bet 100, and he calls. The turn is the 7 and we check. He jams his last 300, and we make the fold, only to have him show us QTo

In our final interesting hand we see a limp from a regfish who plays (loses) a ton. He’s playing 80/10 and he limps like usual from MP. We iso OTB to 30 with A6. Only he calls, and we see a flop of A92. He checks and we check back. The turn is the A and he checks to us again. We wager 50, and he calls. The river is the 5 and he checks to us again. We wager 200, and he jams for 570 total. We tank/call, and lose to top boat. The issue I have with this hand is that if v was bluffing it would have come in the form of a lead on the river m, and not a c/r, and it’s something I should have known after all the hours we’ve played together.


After the snow had ceded and we made our way home, we were able to book a small profit, but lost back most of this nice little stack.




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12-12-2017 , 08:38 PM
That last hand is a rly tough spot because there are pretty much no bricked draws and your hand is somewhat under repped. If I had AT+ I'd feel a lot better about it because I'd tell myself that villain could be doing it with worse Ax. Tough one.

AK hand what range did you put villain on?
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12-13-2017 , 10:52 AM
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That last hand is a rly tough spot because there are pretty much no bricked draws and your hand is somewhat under repped. If I had AT+ I'd feel a lot better about it because I'd tell myself that villain could be doing it with worse Ax. Tough one.

AK hand what range did you put villain on?
Yeah, I just decided to bluff catch basically and it did not go well.

With the AK hand, I thought he could have TT-QQ, all suited broadway , sometimes some weird TP's like T9, J9s, or some offsuit Ax Did not expect to be head enough / have enough equity when behind to call.

I felt like most air would just fold flop, but you never know with tilted players I guess.
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12-14-2017 , 03:01 PM
Played one more interesting hand over the weekend which I forgot to share.

Hero sees two limps to him OB and makes it 25 with Q9. Only the limpers call and we go three way to a flop of 774. It checks to us and we see a turn. The turn is the 9. and the player who limped UTG wagers 25 with 200 behind. the player in between folds and we call. We go to the river which is the Q and he bets 60. We jam for the final 200 total...

Thoughts? Too thin?

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12-14-2017 , 04:58 PM
Tuff to see what hands he can call our jam with but just calling seems super nitty too. I like it. Btw I don't think your preflop iso size accomplishes anything here. If this is 2/5, I prefer $35 which will actually get us some FE vs the limpers sometimes.
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12-14-2017 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by meale
Tuff to see what hands he can call our jam with but just calling seems super nitty too. I like it. Btw I don't think your preflop iso size accomplishes anything here. If this is 2/5, I prefer $35 which will actually get us some FE vs the limpers sometimes.
Good points. The game was playing a bit small at the time, and I thought 25 would get it HU a lot of the time. Either way, this is a good point to keep in mind moving forward.

Thanks dude!
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12-15-2017 , 08:09 AM
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Tuff to see what hands he can call our jam with but just calling seems super nitty too. I like it. Btw I don't think your preflop iso size accomplishes anything here. If this is 2/5, I prefer $35 which will actually get us some FE vs the limpers sometimes.
Pretty lol, but dude had KK. I thought the same though. How can we not raise!
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12-19-2017 , 02:38 PM
The Fall Of The Winter - A Short Story

When things seem so very smooth, you think it could last forever. You’re getting it in good and holding, you’re making the better hand every time. The game seems so easy. I could go pro - I can do this, and it would be the easiest money ever!

The problem is that it doesn’t last forever. It’s just math problem, but the math problem is not so simple. When frustrations mount, it’s not easy to stay level headed. You’re no longer always making the best hand. The game isn’t so easy. And then you let it affect your decisions. All of a sudden you’re not making the correct decisions, and you’re not sticking to your game plan. Funny enough, you never thought you needed a game plan because the game was so easy.

While frustrating in the moment, you always tend to forget that it’s needed. You need to lose. If you do not ever lose, then the losers would never win. Why would they come back?

But they don’t deserve it like I do, they’re playing poorly and getting rewarded.

If you never lose, how would you learn. Would you somehow never go through the bad times and just know everything. So many thoughts, so much frustration. Until you get some sleep. Until you come back and approach it with a clear head. You need to lose. You knew it all along. If you never lost you would never improve. If you never lost, there would never be a game, and thus you could never win.

And it’s not fair, but it is.

Last edited by tellypl; 12-19-2017 at 02:49 PM.
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12-19-2017 , 02:48 PM
The hardest part, which you did not expect is admitting it to yourself. I'm not god's gift to the game. I'm just another player. And since you're just another player, you're not entitled to win.

You need to work hard. You don't get better by being complacent. You get better by working. You look at those mistakes you made, and you correct them. If you can't immediately correct them, you work to correct them.

You can't just think these things. You have to think them, then put them into action. Without the action, they're just thoughts. Thoughts sent to die.

But you admitted it to yourself, and that's the hardest part. Every defense mechanism in your body doesn't let you believe that you made any mistakes. Your own brain doesn't want you to improve. It wants you to succumb to the norm.

But you are not the norm. Not only did you admit it to yourself, you're ready to correct the errors. You're ready to get stronger. You're ready to improve. You're going to bounce back.

Because you don't want to experience these same feelings again.

But you will. The difference is that next time you'll be more prepared. You may even be ready.
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12-21-2017 , 02:37 PM
Downswing - Part I

As you can tell by the previous posts we dropped some $$ this weekend. About 400bbs in 15 or so hours. Not like it’s the end of the world, but enough to do some reflecting and motivation to get some work on our game done.

First, we GII for 90 BBs pre with JJ against KK. V is never 4betting me light unless he’s short. Didn’t make the fold. In the same orbit:

We open JT from MP to 20. CO calls, and the BTN makes it 65. We both call and see a flop of Q86 we both check to the 3bettor who bets 130. We jam 430 total, fold, and he calls with KK and holds.

Next up, we see a limp from a loose passive rec. We ISO KT from the CO, and only he calls. The flop comes AT3 and the flop checks through. The turn is the A. He checks, we bet 25, he calls. The river is the A and he leads 60. We snap and lose to AAAA.

We did turn the nuts and win a 100bb pot. Only lost 300bb this night.

New day, we come back ready and energized!

In our first interesting hand we overlimp 98. One more limp, the blinds come along and we see a flop of QT2. Blind leads out for 20, we call, another call, BTN makes it 110. Only we call. The turn is the 3 he wagers 240 with 140 behind. We sigh fold.

The next hand we pick up the bullets AA in the BB. Two limps to us in the BB and we make it 25. Limpers call and we see a flop of 963:diamond. I check, limper 40, fold, we consider c/r but just flat. Turn is the K this gets hacked back too often so we lead 120. He calls. River is the 5 we wager 225 for value and get snapped. Lose to K9o.

The last straw was bluffcatching a fish on KQ437 with TT in a 3bet pot. He was bluffing and wins with JJ.

Fun times. Us not running it up at multiple venues this weekend.





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12-21-2017 , 03:02 PM
JJ really player/game dependent
J10s hand, I play that exact same way
K10s, play it the same
98s, if I'm in relatively good position i'm definitely isoing this and then once I get that flop I'm going with it, probably bet flop, jam turn
AA, it's fine imo
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12-21-2017 , 03:46 PM
Wouldn't play these hands the same way personally. But next time my advise would be to simply hit a draw instead of bricking!
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12-22-2017 , 03:28 PM
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JJ really player/game dependent
J10s hand, I play that exact same way
K10s, play it the same
98s, if I'm in relatively good position i'm definitely isoing this and then once I get that flop I'm going with it, probably bet flop, jam turn
AA, it's fine imo
Thanks for the input, def agree that I don't like the limp with 98s
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12-22-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Wouldn't play these hands the same way personally. But next time my advise would be to simply hit a draw instead of bricking!
Hahaha not bricking is always nice.

Agreed, at least a few of those hands stink (badly). Care to elaborate a bit?

Appreciate the input.
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12-23-2017 , 05:41 AM
Sure thing. =]

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First, we GII for 90 BBs pre with JJ against KK. V is never 4betting me light unless he’s short. Didn’t make the fold.
Obv you know it's bad but yah almost never sticking 90bb in pre with JJ.

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We open JT from MP to 20. CO calls, and the BTN makes it 65. We both call and see a flop of Q86 we both check to the 3bettor who bets 130. We jam 430 total, fold, and he calls with KK and holds.
Yah wp, hit next time. For some reason I thought this got in on the turn but nah this is wp

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Next up, we see a limp from a loose passive rec. We ISO KT from the CO, and only he calls. The flop comes AT3 and the flop checks through. The turn is the A. He checks, we bet 25, he calls. The river is the A and he leads 60. We snap and lose to AAAA.
Kinda gross but imo we should probably fold. hardly a mistake though

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We did turn the nuts and win a 100bb pot
wp

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In our first interesting hand we overlimp 98. One more limp, the blinds come along and we see a flop of QT2. Blind leads out for 20, we call, another call, BTN makes it 110. Only we call. The turn is the 3 he wagers 240 with 140 behind. We sigh fold.
Probably 65-70% of the time I'll iso this, depends a lot on the table and the position I'm at. Definitely just folding vs the BTN raise on the flop. Don't think it's close here either. Hand is dominated badly in MW pots by better combo draws, we have the nut worst visibility with this spr too.

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The next hand we pick up the bullets AA in the BB. Two limps to us in the BB and we make it 25. Limpers call and we see a flop of 963:diamond. I check, limper 40, fold, we consider c/r but just flat. Turn is the K this gets hacked back too often so we lead 120. He calls. River is the 5 we wager 225 for value and get snapped. Lose to K9o.
Biggggerrr pre. If I'm isoing from the blinds I prob go 30-35 tbh. I don't hate the flop check but I think the hand plays a whole lot easier if we just cbet small ourselves. Don't mind the turn/river leads either tbh. River we could xc as well - we might struggle to get a heeaap of value but I don't think he'll value bet thin enough that it's necessarily better than leading since he basically has a bluff catcher on the turn. Definitely folding to a raise though.

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The last straw was bluffcatching a fish on KQ437 with TT in a 3bet pot. He was bluffing and wins with JJ.
Ya don't do that lol

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For some reason I thought I'd play almost every hand differently but I think I just got confused re the first hand. All look fine tbh, run better. xox
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12-24-2017 , 10:28 AM
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Sure thing. =]



Obv you know it's bad but yah almost never sticking 90bb in pre with JJ.



Yah wp, hit next time. For some reason I thought this got in on the turn but nah this is wp



Kinda gross but imo we should probably fold. hardly a mistake though



wp



Probably 65-70% of the time I'll iso this, depends a lot on the table and the position I'm at. Definitely just folding vs the BTN raise on the flop. Don't think it's close here either. Hand is dominated badly in MW pots by better combo draws, we have the nut worst visibility with this spr too.



Biggggerrr pre. If I'm isoing from the blinds I prob go 30-35 tbh. I don't hate the flop check but I think the hand plays a whole lot easier if we just cbet small ourselves. Don't mind the turn/river leads either tbh. River we could xc as well - we might struggle to get a heeaap of value but I don't think he'll value bet thin enough that it's necessarily better than leading since he basically has a bluff catcher on the turn. Definitely folding to a raise though.



Ya don't do that lol

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For some reason I thought I'd play almost every hand differently but I think I just got confused re the first hand. All look fine tbh, run better. xox
Thanks dude! Appreciate the Analysis . Basically agree on all fronts.

100% need to make some (much) better decisions going forward
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12-24-2017 , 11:01 PM
10 hour drive to Detroit tomorrow! See you soon Motor City
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12-25-2017 , 09:04 AM
Good luck in detroit, hit that bad beat kid. -brohegan
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12-26-2017 , 06:28 AM
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Good luck in detroit, hit that bad beat kid. -brohegan


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