let's say you flat, and the board runs out 4d 3x so complete brick runout and villain essentially goes bet, jam, are you ever folding?

H2: you played it ok, I just would have cr. With the fish in the pot you'll be defending bb wider than usual. So your flop c/c will be Kxs, K9+ and some 5x. Against that range there will be way more thin value betting on the turn instead of the regular bet flop, pot control turn line.

Virtually nobody at 5/T is capable of turning top pair into a bluff to exploit thin value bets. That's why it's so awesome to do it in this spot. c/r jam any non spades is such a good line. I sort of feel guilty because you'll turn villains life upside down in similar spots.

Check raising top pair as a bluff is fun but I'd prefer to do it where we have way more nuts. On K552 we are repping 5x. On K567 or K456 or K568 we credibly rep all sets and have a ton more equity when called. Its also more of a merge bc we can get called by worse.

I do this more than most and its always fun to show and say "had to see if my king was good" and get berated for the next half hour.

Why do you show? Lol.

On this texture, there aren't any hands that would float flop to check raise bluff turn. You have close to zero turn check raise semi bluffs too. You'd have to be nuts/ a whale for anyone half decent to want to hero turn and river.

I don't think you get it. I'm check raising AK as well as the ~24 combos of 5x I have. Basically you're putting him in a really ****ty spot where he has a severe range disadvantage. It's impossible to make the correct decision on the river. If he calls, it's basically to chop or lose. And if he folds, we are pushing him off a ton of chops. The reason for check raising a hand like K9 is to take advantage of his turn thin value bets that snap fold river unimproved.

I still show sometimes. 1 when i know it'll entertain a rec. And 2 when I know it will make a reg think I'm bad and/or tilt him. Like I don't show standard bluffs but this one would be funny.

No. Our hand does much better against his range on that runout.

Good point, definitely a line to consider in the future.

Agree heavily with bolded.


Interesting.

Bolded x100000. I still show every once in awhile. Not in a rude way, but doing that totally affects everyones perceptions of you - usually getting you wayyy more action.

Come on man, that crap still doesn't work... right? The classic nit showing their one bluff from the last 100 hours hoping to get action... regs aren't that stupid.

It's so much more profitable to bluff lots and never show while having a tight image/ playstyle. The trick is knowing when to do it, what hands to do it with, and at a frequency that doesn't raise suspicion. It's no different than picking up on a pros bet sizing, betting pattern etc that that you can exploit. You can't do it every single time otherwise they adjust and the edge vanishes.

Besides, it's so much more satisfying when a reg makes big speech on the river about how tight you are and how good you run when all you have is a bluff. That's great advertising lol.

You'd be surprised...lol

Think we're talking past each other bc its hard to get certain stuff through text.

I dont show bluffs to generate action (though I DO sometimes show silly stuff to generate action, like I had a T game awhile back where me and a few recs kept showing the T in ******ed spots)

I show regs to satisfy my ego. Not my ego of bluffing them, thats level 1, and I'm not too concerned with it.

Ego of showing them what they perceive to be a bad bluff. Level 2. I thorougly enjoy getting lectured how I had a great bluffcatcher and overplayed my hand and blah blah blah.

I know its sort of bad for the game. I dont care. I love hearing it. Its like afternoon rain on a tin roof.

Rollercoaster:

The day started off as most have in the recent downswing. Quite terribly. With no 5/T running yet, we hop in the 2/5 and get going.

In our first interesting hand we see two limps, and then a raise to 30 from the HJ. One caller in between and we look down at QQ in the SB, and make it 130. It folds to the original raiser who jams for 430 total, player in between folds and we call. Board runs out K high and we lose to AK.

Next orbit, there’s a straddle on and we see TT in the SB. Two limps to us and we make it 75 to go. Both of the limpers call and we go to a flop of J86. The flop checks through and we see a 2 on the turn. We check, then a badreg makes it 150. The player in between folds and we call. The river is the Q and it goes check/check. We lose to Q9cc.

For our final blow in the 2/5 streets, we look down at KT OTB and make it 25 to go over one limper, a splashy rec. only he calls and we see a flop of K9T. He checks and we fire 30. He calls and we see a 4 on the turn. He checks and this time we fire 105. He makes it 240 to go with another 180 or so behind. We stick it in and are drawing slim against QJ.

After dropping a cool 200bb in 3.5 hours the 5/T opens up and the action is awesome. For a lot of the night it was actually a 5/T/20 which was a ton of fun.

First up, we pick up AK in the CO and make it 45 to go over a limper. The BTN and the limper both call, and we go to a flop of K64. T checks to us and we fire 65. Both players call and we see a Q on the turn. Limper checks to us again and this time we fire 135. Once again, both players call and we see a 7 on the river. It checks to us again, and we go for thin value, 225. Once again, both villains call, and we were drawing quite slim against 66 and 64.

With things finally set to turn around, we look down at AQ in the BB, and make the call when a reg we have tons of history with makes it 35 from the HJ. We go heads up to a gin flop. KJT. We check, and he wagers 50. From our history together, his weakness is calling too wide too often. We pop it to 165 and he calls. The turn is brick #1. The 6. We lead for 260, and he calls. The river is the 3 and we go big; 885. He things for a short while and tosses in the call. We scoop.

Next up, we pick up JJ in MP and see a raise to 35 from UTG+2. We pop it from directly to his left to 130. Everyone folds and he calls. The flop comes KK6. He checks to us and I decide to check it back. The turn is the 9 and he checks again. This time we bet 105, and he calls. The river is the 2 and he checks a third time. We decide to go for some value, 225. He thinks for a minute and makes the call, but rolls over QQ.

In our final hand we get our last chance at blood. There’s an open from the CO to 35 and we defend the good old AQ. The flop comes Q76 and he check/call 50. The turn is the 2 and we check/call 215. The river is the A and we check/call 420. Our hand is good.

So was able to make up for the miserable performance at the 2/5 level: in for 3583, out for 5105 at 5/T.

gl all.




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I would've taken showdown with the AKss hand. Other hands seem wp though. Nice chip porn too

Yeah agreed on the AK. Seems a bit too thin lol especially if they can show up with those hands...

AQ totally find just to call river but part of me just wants to rip it in his mouth?

Yeah. I thought about it, but it just seemed to me that his range should be super polarized on this runout. Like he should have almost no thin value hands here, should be only like sets and AQ, or air. There aren't enough weird 2 pairs here, but there could be like missed draw, or a hand like two clubs + pair or something, so just decided to call.

Yeeeah, I feel you. But I think there's enough 67/A7/A6 that could pay us off and our range should have some natural bluffs too. But I get what you mean.

Def. I think against other player types where those hands would be more likely than this guy, id lean more towards raise as well. Obv not fair to you since i didn’t really give a description in the hand.

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An interesting thing I wanted to note is the fact that my local casino had two 5/T games running at the same time for the first time since 2016. Most of 2015, 2016 and 2017 5/T ran once per week at MOST, and it would be one table with little to no list.

Late 2017 to the present 5/T started running 3 times per week, and this Saturday we had a must move with 7 on the list! This is quite to opposite of what my thinking has been that games are shrinking around the world. Seems crazy.

I think you can put this down to guys like Andrew Neeme / Brad Owen ect, they've reinvigorated a lot of 2/5 players to shot take and test their skills. Even my Casino has had 5/T running once in a blue moon and that never ever happened!

It has very little to do with poker vlogs and everything to do with crypto and yolo.

Dat dere crypto money :')

Could be a factor for sure. Definitely not upset though.

YOLO! loving it. Games have been fantastic too.

Bruh. KEEP IT COMING! #pump

Haven't shared this, but have been strongly considering moving into poker fulltime for some time now (about a year). The sample size is now there, the winrate is decent enough, and I'm studying/improving every day. Currently beginning the process of purchasing an apartment. We'll see where that nets out. Anyway, having the roll/skill isn't the issue, it's the opportunity cost of leaving my current field. The wear of working 45 hours per week (and being underpaid) as well as another 10-15 hours per week of poker is starting to wear on me. (not including 10-15 more hours writing/posting/studying)

The only thing that has truly stopped me is the wise words of 2+2. Not sure if those wise words will ultimately get through to me though.

Anyway, just my thoughts. Follow @drawingdeadpoker on insta to support

Do you not want me to post not to?

What is your field/degree/years of service?