So I feel I have potential. My problem is discipline. I dont practice brm. I get into spots where i think someone is trying to bully me and try to rebully which ends up losing my stack. I also overplay tptk too much.

So from today foreward I will do my best to stay discipline, practice good brm, and try to turn my last 30 dollars into something big. I really want to play semi professionally where i can earn a decent amount on top of my regular job. But i feel it would be way more gratifying to move up the ranks from micros to high stakes.

I have a mental issue with playing NL2 where im not making any real money. But ill deposit 50 catch a downswing and lose it instead of practicing brm. This is a big thing i need to get over any suggestions.

I'm jayoe45 on absolute poker if anyone wants to look me up and give any advice

play 2nl till you hit 100, then move up to 5nl, drop down if you hit 40

actually, absolute poker doesnt have nl5 so id have to wait til at least 200 to move up to nl10.
Understanding brm is not my problem its mentally dealing with winning cents thats my problem. Something about winning .30 doesnt really do anything for me but i understand it has to be done to move up

Don't think of that $0.30 as cents, think of it as 15BBs!

I would try to think of playing the micro stakes as part of a learning process rather than having a monetary goal hanging over your head. As mattc16 suggests, think of it in terms of big blinds/big bets rather than actual money and use this to judge your progress. It isnt really the money that's important at this stage but learning how to beat and exploit bad players. GL

I'm the exact same way. When I play 2 and 5 NL I am great. But then I think that I can make so much more money if I move up. So I move up to 50NL HU and if I don't run good, I lose my roll. I wish I could teach myself discipline and/or BRM. Greed is such a terrible thing.

it's not about the money really. I played competitive bridge with zero money on the line and it was taken really seriously by most concerned. I played chess for £5 a game (minibus to work) but the £5 was motivation because I don't find chess much fun (we were fairly evenly matched, neither of us was that good) I won every money game and lost every game we played just for the hell of it.

Pretend it's for no money at all because it almost is. If you don't enjoy poker for it's own sake then what you have actually done (if you're looking to win money) is take on a work project. It's obviously not a job yet, that could be some time away, you are not playing for your immediate winnings. You are doing phase 1 of your project and you have to do it right to even think about stages 2 onwards.

GL man. Doing pretty much the same thing here. I too thought the idea of playing the lowest micros was silly, but when I looked at my game, and my approach to the game... brm, game selection... occasional tiltiness etc. I realized I really had a lot to work on to be consistantly profitable. It makes sense to work on these things and reconstruct a solid foundation at the bottom using agood BRM.

SO doing a personal challenge is a great idea. I am focusing on showing a profit and doing the things required to do so. The chips are just a way to keep score. If the challenge is successful, we will progress to higher limits while being properly rolled and hopefully in 6 months or so be ahead of where we would be if we just continued doing what we have always done..

So you are not alone.

My thread is HERE.

Best of luck and keep us posted with your progress!

Ok its been about a week and in my busy schedule im trying to get as many hands in as possible. I been doing well as far as following my guidelines and not paying people off. If i get frustrated or take a couple bad beats i stand up and come back later which has minimized my losses. poker table ratings says i play too tight however i feel im playing ok take a look at my progress and let me know what you think

http://www.pokertableratings.com/abs...rch/durrrrdwan

I agree with commando...just work your way up...it does suck at first but if you stick with it and focus you should easily be able to move up...good luck and keep posting updates...

sry...what did you start bankroll off at? and your up 9$ so far correct?

i started with 20bi at current level, not sure why that would play into feedback on my results, but im only playing at a level where i have 20bi for the level im playing.

thanks...i was just curious...good luck

winning at poker long term is about a lot more than being good at cards. not playing when you are tilted / drunk / in a hurry, having real bankroll management. all of this really comes down to discipline. i made a decent living the past 2 years off of poker and can honestly say that my skill level for at least half of that time was pretty LOL but with discipline i was able to do ok.

fwiw when you start playing more tables and higher i wouldn't play any level without 50 buy ins and really would prefer to have closer to 100.

that is much easier to do when you are playing at a level that you can make a living at obviously because you aren't trying to build a roll so that you can move up.

ty i see what your saying when im playing stakes that im actually making an income i should give myself more of a buffer with 50- 100 bi

right now im grinding 2nl and i 2 table at the moment

Just another comment about playing at 2NL. As some others stated, think of it in terms of BB's not $$. Playing $2.25 STT's myself and I refuse to look at my $$ win/loss for the day anymore, have changed my HEM graph over to Buy-Ins and that's all I look at to gauge myself.

Additionally, I like the idea of treating it like a business, which is what I am currently doing. Worry more about volume, correct plays, and treat your time as the investment, and understand that it's for the long haul that you are doing what you are doing now. Playing 2NL is like reading investment strategies when you want to trade the markets for a living, it won't realize a profit right now, but down the road will help to pay you off big. Consider it study for future profits even though it will earn you a few dollars now.