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Old 11-10-2017, 11:20 PM   #176
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Finally caught some run good in an all in pot! Haven't gotten paid with a set in a long time.

Hero opens 66 in the LJ to $10, HJ makes it $20, CO, button, and BB call. I make the call.

Pot:$100.

Flop: 568 two clubs.

Check, I consider donking but I still have 3 players behind me who might bet and I think HJ is going to have an overpair heavy range here so I check. HJ bets $50 which kinda confuses me. I thought he would bet bigger with his overpairs so either he's scared or he has two overs and a flush draw.

CO and BB call. So there is $250 in the pot and I have $250 or so behind. I ship it, there is so much dead money and making it $200 with $50 behind if anything looks more nutted.

Only the PFR calls and I get a hold vs AJcc!

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Old 11-11-2017, 03:25 AM   #177
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Ugh, got into two tough spots, got one of them right, the other I don't know.

H1. I open the button to $12 with Ac8s, sb calls. He's been playing reasonably tight but hasn't shown down any hands. Hes a late 20's Asian.

Flop: AT4 two diamonds.

I bet $15 he check raises to $45. I consider just folding but I call.

Turn is an offsuit 7. Check check. Should I consider betting?

River is an offsuit king and now he overbets $125 into like $110.

Hero?

Hand 2: I open AhQs in the HJ to $15 over a limp and get 3 callers. Main villain is on my left in the CO. He's been playing tightish and straightforward. We've been talking and pretty friendly. He says he used to play a few times a month but hasn't played poker in a long time.

Pot:57

Flop: As8h7s

I bet $40 and CO and the BB call.

Turn 9d

Pot: $170

Idk alarm bells were kind of going off when CO called my bet but I wanted to get some value so I bet $65.

CO raises to $190. He has about $200 behind and I cover.

Hero?

I had a really hard time putting him on value hands that call flop and raise turn but at the same time I didn't think he would be raising that often with a draw here. I don't think he's calling with TJ on the flop unless it's TJss exactly. I don't think he's playing A9o pre but he could have A9 suited. Other than that he just has 56s
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:02 AM   #178
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Hand 1: Check back or b/f flop. There are no good turns for you that make you stack off happily here.

Hand 2: c/c or b/f turn

I like the small bet/fold.
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Old 11-11-2017, 07:16 AM   #179
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Pretty happy with how the day went. 9 hours played up $530. Took over an hour to get a table unfortunately and a lot of the night was 4-5 handed with shortstackers. Might give Hawaiin Gardens or Hustler a try soon.

H1 I ended up folding river, I don't know if I was right or wrong.
H2 I folded and the guy had 56 for a straight.

The sick part is the river was an offsuit queen so flush would've missed and I would've made top two. If I called I was in for a world of hurt.

Overall I was happy with how I played. I didn't pull the trigger on one bluff that I probably should have but the only big bluff that I actually ran I got through so that was nice. Someone who bets too much bet small on a flush completing river so I just bombed it and got him off something.

I still need to do better when it comes to the fear of losing but it's been getting better.
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Old 11-11-2017, 02:34 PM   #180
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Pretty happy with how the day went. 9 hours played up $530. Took over an hour to get a table unfortunately and a lot of the night was 4-5 handed with shortstackers. Might give Hawaiin Gardens or Hustler a try soon.

H1 I ended up folding river, I don't know if I was right or wrong.
H2 I folded and the guy had 56 for a straight.

The sick part is the river was an offsuit queen so flush would've missed and I would've made top two. If I called I was in for a world of hurt.

Overall I was happy with how I played. I didn't pull the trigger on one bluff that I probably should have but the only big bluff that I actually ran I got through so that was nice. Someone who bets too much bet small on a flush completing river so I just bombed it and got him off something.

I still need to do better when it comes to the fear of losing but it's been getting better.
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Old 11-12-2017, 04:54 AM   #181
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Man I love your consistency! Sure will get you somewhere in life.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:14 AM   #182
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Couldn't sleep last night so tried to play at the Bike on not much sleep and was really groggy. Just decided I would play premiums and tight pre and hope to catch. Unfortunately I just kept getting hands like AK and whiffing in multiway pots.

Table was really bad (unprofitable). It was a mix of older guys who were super short stacked and younger guys talking about whether or not one of their past opponents was using a more merged or linear 3 bet range. I left after about 1.5 hours down $120.

Decided after resting up to go to the commerce for a bit and just play if the game is juicy and it delivered. God damn I almost forgot how insane these games are. Up almost $400 in the first 30 min through some run good and a sweet hero call.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:33 AM   #183
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Hero hero calls:

Main villain is really old Asian guy that seems pretty tilted. In my first 30 min at the I've seen him squeeze constantly and stack off for 40-60 BB's with ATo AQo JJ and a bunch of unknown bands where people ended up folding.

Just saw a $25 UTG+1 open get called by two and main villain shipped it for $200 with ATo and lost to 99.

I open JhJd to $15 UTG and main villain calls UTG+1, button and the blinds call.

Pot: $70

Flop: 7c3c2h.

Hero bets $55 and gets called by villain and button.

Pot:$235

Turn:Kc.

I check, main villain goes all in for $80 button folds.

On the one hand, this is arguably the worst turn in the deck, on the other hand, im getting a good price against someone who probably has a pretty big spazz range.

**** it I call.

Villain shows red 55 and I win.

I'm not usually one to hero and maybe I'm so nitty I think this is a hero when it isn't but felt good to call and get the win here.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:58 AM   #184
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Ok so I'll have to double check but the day's results are about 3 hours played up $250.

Left the commerce after about an 1.5 hours which was the plan going in. Wasn't going to play more than three. I was going to sit down, hope for a juicy table, table change once if needed then go. My first table was good for the first 30 min then went to being mediocre, I'm exhausted, so I'm just going to be smart and call it a night.

First ever hit and run and definitely not something I plan on doing often but I'm definitely glad I decided to go out and give playing another try.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:36 PM   #185
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Ok so I'll have to double check but the day's results are about 3 hours played up $250.

Left the commerce after about an 1.5 hours which was the plan going in. Wasn't going to play more than three. I was going to sit down, hope for a juicy table, table change once if needed then go. My first table was good for the first 30 min then went to being mediocre, I'm exhausted, so I'm just going to be smart and call it a night.

First ever hit and run and definitely not something I plan on doing often but I'm definitely glad I decided to go out and give playing another try.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:12 AM   #186
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well got off to a slow start since I couldn't get cards and game was complete nit fest I got a couple small squeezes and cbet bluffs through which kept me even but then I got to sort of cooler someone. Nothing exciting and only sort of a cooler because there is no way he should've seen the flop.

H1: Can 72 get coolered?

UTG nit opens to $8 I'm UTG+1 with 77 and make the call. A few more call and after a million chops we actually see a flop 5 ways.

Pot:$37

I decided if I flop a set I was going to use a smaller sizing at this table.

Flop: Tc7c2h.

Checks to me, I see no reason to check at this table so I bet $25, call, raise to $75. Folds to me. They both had about $120 behind so I shove. I think there are too many turn cards that kill my action against two pair or AT to just flat. Im also going to be OOP so if the flush draw bricks they could just check if they had a draw. The caller folds and the raiser calls with 72dd. Unfortunately he left after the hand.

I think he played postflop correctly. I was UTG1 so while some people will have T7 or T2 a lot of people won't. I also would rarely have TT. He only had to worry about one combo of 77 and 22 so it's probably standard to raise for value there. With only $120 behind and with me having only 2 value combos that crush him it's a very reasonable call. I could have A2cc or 89cc there and he doesn't know if I'm ever bluffing with random clubs or just spazzing out with AT/KT/JJ.

With 99.7% equity I manage to avoid running deuces and get a hold.

I still might go to the commerce...had to wait an hour to get a game at the Bike and the game is playing really really nitty pre. Just a ton of chops. I already table changed once. Monday's at the Bike always seem to be really dead. Seems to pick up by Wednesday.

I would consider calling it a day early but my best friend is going to be flying out here for a med school interview and we are going to be hanging out this week. Interestingly, he actually played professionally for a year exclusively at the Commerce a few years back. He started at the 1/2 $40 buy in game and reasonably quickly moved up to 5/5 and 5/10. We will probably play some poker Friday/Saturday but not sure how much he's going to want to play.

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Old 11-14-2017, 02:49 AM   #187
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Ugh maybe the Commerce is just a bad game for me since I don't understand short stack play.

H2 TT in the HJ

Two limps, I make it $30 in the HJ with TT. Co calls. Guy who hasn't played a hand for the first 35 min and getting a massage makes it $75 on the button with $110 behind. I feel like I should have a plan here and I just feel torn. I'm sure if I'm trying to play GTO I have to call but is this more profitable than folding? I have done some studying so I knew against a range of TT+ AK/AQ I have about 40% equity. When he just clicks it back though is his range more weighted towards bigger hands?

H3: Decent spot to donk?

2 limps, I only have $140 or so to start the hand to I limp the HJwith KJdd. The CO makes it $20, the button and the limpers call. Not a great stack to pot ratio but he probably never has JJ+ for this sizing so could be worse, I call.

Flop: Td6d3c

Pot: $100

So it checks to me and I decide to donk for $80. It's very unlikely that someone behind me had an overpair, I have decent equity against anything but 66 or 33 or the NFD. I can fold out hands that beat me as well as any two cards that have equity against me. Folds to one of the limpers who calls.

Turn completes the flush and we get it in and I win. Not sure what he had. He was super excited when the diamond came so I'm pretty sure he also had a flush.

Definitely running well today.

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Old 11-14-2017, 03:58 AM   #188
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Couldn't really sleep last night and game at the Commerce isn't great so I'm leaving early again.

5 hours played on the day finished up about $310. Played very few hands but I hit a set and a flush so definitely ran well overall. Definitely nice to string together a few wins by I can't get complacent and let this work ethic become normal.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:46 PM   #189
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What have been the conclusions you have come to about exploiting the LLSNL games you have played?

It seems you are trying a theoretical approach + runbad = not working too well.

Eg, earlier ITT, you seemed surprised that people were calling your 1 x raise in 2 hours but LLSNL does not tend to work that way... most people worry about their cards only, and don't play to table conditions.

So if people are calling your raises with J6o and 84s, how are you exploiting those situations?

BTW, in live, the "image" that people do respect more often than "tight" is a "winning image", ie, having a lot of chips on the table so buying in full and topping up will change the table dynamic in your favour more than being an uber-nit will.

I would take the overs on the following strat being effective in your games as described... 3b 1010+, AQs+ from the blinds, call raises with QJs+ and all pairs.

Positions 1-6 open with the same hands you 3b from the blinds, limp 89s+, fold RIO hands.

LJ - raise 30% of hands - cbet flops incl almost any hand when you have caught any equity at all eg gutshot, backdoor flush, 3rd pair etc. Barrel most turns that don't complete a flush or straight.

HJ - raise 40% of hands, cbet as above and any time you are the effective button and it is checked to you.

BTN - raise 50 -60% of hands and cbet as above (80% of flops as BTN).

3b as BTN (or effective button from even LJ with the right players to your left) with any A or K on the hour every hour where you have a raiser with a week range and ideally 2 x passive callers. No need to balance a 3b range with weaker hands on most tables.

People are putting their money in so weakly, you should be finding lots of spots every session to exploit their tendencies eg by barrelling away with decent-ish sorts of hands that pick up equity and make made hands on turns and rivers vs the weak ranges V's are playing.

The above is a super simple, highly exploitable LAG strategy - but your Vs won't exploit you and it will give you tons of opportunities for getting tons of money in on Turns and Rivers (as you pick up equity) and get comfortable with playing past the flop much more often than you do now and will give you some experience playing deeper more often.

So lets say you hate the above strat. What are the mistakes you see V in your games make over and over and what strat exploits that you can make to your current game that will win the manies? EG earlier ITT, you said you spotted a bet sizing tell with a V that opened for $10 with a medium strength hand and higher with premium. Did you pound those small raises that night?

Obv, good thread, I hope your game develops++ and crush the $.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:48 PM   #190
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:48 AM   #191
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Was out and about most of the day so not much time to play. Ended up playing 2 hours at the Commerce late night and lost $250. Not much I could do, I got it in with KK on a J67 two heart flop and the guy had pair+flush draw and I lost. I ran JJ into a set. The only real hand I won 5 people limped, the button made it $35 and I made it $150 out of the BB with a $300 stack and they all folded.
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I might just decide to deal with the variance and stick with the Commerce until the end of the month, the action is just too good. I opened UTG to $20, UTG+1 and two others call. Flop:Q64 r. I bet $55 into 3 people, UTG1 raises to $150 with Q9. This kind of stuff is just so common. I'll have to just switch to not making exploitative folds without extensive history, stay tight pre, and just be prepared to stack off lighter than I'm used.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:51 AM   #193
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Alright wish me luck just moved to the high variance whale table. Stacks are massive, dont see any straddles or blind raising yet but I'm sure it's coming. Last time I played with these guys I was getting it in for 40-60 blinds against 89o, 55, 22 etc. Hopefully this time I can get some holds.
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Old 11-16-2017, 01:30 AM   #194
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Enjoy the thread, gonna try and sneak a session at the Commerce on the drive thru next week. Send me a PM, keen to know if I'll be in the same games as you/have a beer
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Enjoy the thread, gonna try and sneak a session at the Commerce on the drive thru next week. Send me a PM, keen to know if I'll be in the same games as you/have a beer
Nice. Yea I'll be playing everyday except for Monday/Tuesday. I'll mostly be doing the 3/5 but could be at the 5/5. Feel free to hit me up if you stop by.
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What have been the conclusions you have come to about exploiting the LLSNL games you have played?

It seems you are trying a theoretical approach + runbad = not working too well.

Eg, earlier ITT, you seemed surprised that people were calling your 1 x raise in 2 hours but LLSNL does not tend to work that way... most people worry about their cards only, and don't play to table conditions.

So if people are calling your raises with J6o and 84s, how are you exploiting those situations?

BTW, in live, the "image" that people do respect more often than "tight" is a "winning image", ie, having a lot of chips on the table so buying in full and topping up will change the table dynamic in your favour more than being an uber-nit will.

I would take the overs on the following strat being effective in your games as described... 3b 1010+, AQs+ from the blinds, call raises with QJs+ and all pairs.

Positions 1-6 open with the same hands you 3b from the blinds, limp 89s+, fold RIO hands.

LJ - raise 30% of hands - cbet flops incl almost any hand when you have caught any equity at all eg gutshot, backdoor flush, 3rd pair etc. Barrel most turns that don't complete a flush or straight.

HJ - raise 40% of hands, cbet as above and any time you are the effective button and it is checked to you.

BTN - raise 50 -60% of hands and cbet as above (80% of flops as BTN).

3b as BTN (or effective button from even LJ with the right players to your left) with any A or K on the hour every hour where you have a raiser with a week range and ideally 2 x passive callers. No need to balance a 3b range with weaker hands on most tables.

People are putting their money in so weakly, you should be finding lots of spots every session to exploit their tendencies eg by barrelling away with decent-ish sorts of hands that pick up equity and make made hands on turns and rivers vs the weak ranges V's are playing.

The above is a super simple, highly exploitable LAG strategy - but your Vs won't exploit you and it will give you tons of opportunities for getting tons of money in on Turns and Rivers (as you pick up equity) and get comfortable with playing past the flop much more often than you do now and will give you some experience playing deeper more often.

So lets say you hate the above strat. What are the mistakes you see V in your games make over and over and what strat exploits that you can make to your current game that will win the manies? EG earlier ITT, you said you spotted a bet sizing tell with a V that opened for $10 with a medium strength hand and higher with premium. Did you pound those small raises that night?

Obv, good thread, I hope your game develops++ and crush the $.
Thx for the feedback. I mean the adjustment that I've been learning to make is to value bet far more thinly and also to fold less to raises since sets and big hands are going to be a much smaller part of their range compared to random pair+draw and gutshots etc.

I'm not exactly sure how my preflop percentages match up with what you posted but they are definitely tighter. I'm probably in the ballpark of 18-19 percent from the LJ and 20-21percent from the HJ but it depends on the game.
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This place is just so poorly run, I think I've probably spent 10 hours on the alleged table change list the various times I've been here and have never gotten a change. My table is completely dead so I went to go check on what's going on and my name wasn't even on the table change list. This isn't the first time this has happened. I give them my initials and table number and just never get listed.
Meanwhile, I see people seemingly just get up and change tables cause they feel like it without talking to the floor. I think I will probably start to do the same when it's busy.

There's an insanely good game going on and I'm at a table where I've had to chop aces in the BB and had everyone fold when I made it 4x over a limp.

My love hate relationship with the Commerce continues. Great action, but it's basically bingo because you are so short stacked. If the action isn't good then the game is truly awful since you are losing $8 an orbit from the blinds and the stacks are often under $200.

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Wow. So I politely expressed my frustration with the floor over the fact that my name had been deleted from the list and had them put me back down. About an hour goes by and I check to see where I'm at on the table change list and again my name wasn't there. She then tries to tell me how this situation is my fault because they had already moved me which wasn't true. I'm honestly a patient and understanding person but this is rediculous. I probably put my name down for a table change at 7:00 today and have talked to the floor three separate times. She then condescends to me in an aggressive and exasperated tone over their mistake about how this is my fault.

Game just broke so finally got to that table. I see a decent player who started with a $200 stack now with about $1800 after jsut a few hours. . I just sat down and there have been two blind all ins for $300. In a row. Same guy. He just reloaded and is about to blind all in for the third time. Oh and btw there was another guy blind all inning before I got here.

Ok he got cracked the third time and is now all in blind for the 4th time for $300. Yes!!!! He actually won one.


****kkkk management.

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Yessssss he jsut tripled up from $600 to $1800 when he cracked 77 and K5 with Q9. I actually had K7s OTB and was probably going to call for $240 until the CO called. Would've lost.

So K7s has 58% equity against ATC so I think it's a call OTB. Obviously the blinds could wake up with a hand but I think callin is profitable.

Curious about what the optimal play is with a decent suited ace UtG like A9s. So there is about a 45% chance someone wakes up behind you with AT+ 99+ When you get it in against ATC you will be a 2:1 favorite. So I guess you could raise pre and if anyone calls behind you fold to the inevitable jam and snap heads up?

****kkkk. I called him in the SB with A7s and the BB had aces. FML. Blind raiser had like K6o

No matter how bad I run though I'm not leaving until this guy is gone lol.

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I don't know what this blind all in guy is on or how much he's been drinking but he just got up and he has pissed himself. Since I've sat down he's into the game for about $1200 and he has a $2500 stack. I don't know how much he was in for earlier.

Unfortunately I have not had any luck. I've had 3 hands against him. I called his blind all in with:

A7s in the SB (3 way pot BB had aces)
66 in the BB
AJs in the BB

I've lost all three. In the A7 hand I won a side pot so I probably only lost $150 but in the other hands I lost $300. He's had K6o, Q9o and 67s in the above hands.

Kinda sucks to have to call with the more marginally profitable hands but there are also the implied odds of doubling up. Then the next time I have a $600 stack that I can call him with.

If I lose one more I'm probably out since I'm running low on cash and he's annoying as ****. He keeps chanting "fuzballaaaa...relax.....shhhhhhhhhhhh......easyyy yyyy......calmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" over and over and over. He's been chanting it nonstop for the last two hours. He also takes like 20 seconds to a minute to decide whether or not he wants to shove pre, even when he hasn't looked.
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