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Old 11-07-2017, 04:51 AM   #151
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Deeefinitely be raising if not turn on the river.
Thanks, yea I agree that river should be a raise. I never really considered raising on the turn but I guess I should have given it more thought given the sizing. I'll have to think about that tomorrow.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:57 PM   #152
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Man the bike is super dead again today. Took a while to get a table and average stack is like $120 at 2/3. With everyone playing super nitty (chop chop chop) and a $3 drop this is borderline -EV.

On the bright side we've played like 5 orbits in 30 minutes.


I think I'm going to finish out this trip in Vegas so I can game select more. I was hoping to be able to play mostly 5/5 on this trip but I haven't put in the studying I've wanted to and with this downswing I think I would let the money impact my decision making. I pride myself on usually being rational and objective so it's embarrassing to admit it, but I'm just way too irrational and emotional when it comes to poker right now. I'm getting better and better when it comes to the fear of losing but I'm just not there yet.

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Old 11-07-2017, 11:06 PM   #153
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wow so I took an bad beat with 80 percent equity KJ v QJ. On AJJ. I was going to post about it but decided I was going to stay positive and deleted it. THen someone decides to 3 bet me and call off a shove with KT vs my AK and he ****ing hit.

How is this possible???? I mean the odds of this happening over and over has to be in the tens of thousands.

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Old 11-08-2017, 03:21 AM   #154
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Alright going to focus on the strategy for now and things that are actually productive.

With two exceptions all the hands I played have been pretty standard, nothing interesting. Played a tight range and pretty much just value bet the few times I flopped top pair or a good draw.

Took two non-standard lines:

I can't remember the last time I limp reraised but I did it here and it worked out so that was pretty fun:

I limped A5cc from UTG+2, I haven't been doing very much open limping but I thought given the stack depths and the players at the table it was good here. A guy on my left who makes it $15 with his premiums and $10 with his mediocre hands opens to $10. I limp reraise to $40 and he calls.

I had been pretty much just been showing down good hands at this point and thought I would take this down pre sometimes but mostly have a very profitable cbet on a lot of textures against a weak range.

Flop:799hhc.

Not the best or worst flop. I have some backdoors, I think he has a lot of smallish pairs as well as hands like KJ,KT, QJ etc that really miss this flop. I think he's going to raise a decent amount of his strong value to protect so I might have a profitable double barrel, especially if I pick up equity.

I do have some showdown value but it's going to be tough to realize my equity here OOP. I think I should be more likely to check if I were in position right? Anyway I bet something like $50 and take it down.

The other non-standard play was someone who had been playing fairly tight with only a $80 stack opened the UTG+2to $15 and I had AcKh in the HJ. I don't think I'm ever getting any folds out of his pocket pairs so with rake and tip I don't know if getting it in now is that profitable. If anything I'll just fold out hands that I dominate and don't mind taking a flop against in position.

I opt to flat and the BB with a similarly short stack also flats.

Flop:556ddh.

It checks to me and I opt to bet $30 and take it down. I don't think the preflop raiser is checking this flop with overpairs or two overs and a flush draw very often so I just had to get through the small blind who didn't look particularly interested in the pot.
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Old 11-08-2017, 04:16 AM   #155
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I was out for 9 hours today but probably only played about 6 due to traffic, dead games, taking walks after bad beats etc. Finished down $280. I had kings with the Kd cracked to end the day and it was probably a bad call. It's a river I would almost always fold and I don't really think I had anything to justify calling here.

I opened over some limps and button and another guy called. Flop: Jd3h2d two. I bet like $40 into $50 and button calls. Turn 8d. I check and he bets $40, I call.
River is an offsuit Q and he bets $50. I now have to call $50 to win $260.

So he has to be spazzing out or bluffing with the Ad about 16 percent of the time. It was a new table, the guy was 50's Asian. No other information.

I'm getting a really good price but maybe this is just almost always a flush. Lately I've been running into a lot of people just clicking buttons and doing things like betting an 8 on this river but I don't think that's representative of enough players.

I called and he turned over A6dd for the nuts.

After that I played a few more hands and then just left. Idk how good my decision making is right now.

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Old 11-08-2017, 04:28 AM   #156
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Can't be upset about calling that river lol. Remember you only need to win 1 in 5 times to profit here. So if it's a spot you're going to be losing the pot 75% of the time, it's still a hugely profitable call.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:04 AM   #157
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Can't be upset about calling that river lol. Remember you only need to win 1 in 5 times to profit here. So if it's a spot you're going to be losing the pot 75% of the time, it's still a hugely profitable call.
Thanks man; I appreciate the feedback. That was the only decision I was questioning that turned out poorly so I guess I should be happy with how I played today even though the results weren't good.

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Old 11-08-2017, 08:54 AM   #158
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No more negativity, it's not productive. No more focusing on bad beats, time to focus purely on getting better.

I'm just going to leave this here as a reminder that this is a process, it's going to take time, but one way or another things will work out:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...5801&fpart=all
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:27 AM   #159
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Old 11-08-2017, 04:04 PM   #160
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Subbed ! I'm excited to see where this journey takes you. Keep grinding.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:38 PM   #161
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That doug polk post is an incredible find. Wow
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:41 PM   #162
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Ok so I got into kinda a weird spot. I chose what ended up being the most +EV line against their exact holdings but it definitely invited potential variance, and I'm not sure it is correct. I think it was correct but here we go:

I open up 7h7c in MP to $12 and get two calls by the blinds.

Flop: Qh 9d 7d

Pot$33

So I flop bottom set. Checks to me and I bet $35 sb calls and BB ships it for $180. I'm pretty confident from his demeanor and the combinatorics this is a combo draw, pair plus draw or the NFD. 9's are possible but since that's only 3 combos I'm not too worried.

Now, after calling the $180, V1 would only have $100 behind at this point.

Now if they both have diamonds, I'm 75% to win and I want sb to come along.

If sb has the OESD my equity goes from 70 to 57 but the pot goes from 400-->800 assuming we get it in on the turn which we obviously would. He would be calling $100 to win $600.

Now if he has a queen, I think calling is also the best option as it's much more likely to invite a call.

So I actually did decide to just call which I think is correct. I want him to come along and it's not like he can fold a blank turn anyway.

Unfortunately v1 hit the straight with TJ and I lost. For whatever it's worth he said he was calling flop no matter what but who knows.

Am I missing something here or did I play this correctly?
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:16 PM   #163
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Played it fine except you over thought it a bit imo. You have the nuts, they have no chips, go all-in.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:06 AM   #164
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Played it fine except you over thought it a bit imo. You have the nuts, they have no chips, go all-in.
Thanks. And regardless of what the right play was, I'm proud of myself that I didn't let the fear of getting sucked out on change my decision.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:19 AM   #165
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Huh looks like some posts got deleted, not sure what happened. Anyway, got it in pre with KK v AJ and lost a $195 pot so might have to call it a day early. I opened, got two calls and he shoved out of the blinds in case you're wondering

Only brought $600 with me and I'm currently down about $290. If my stack goes below $200 I'll probably call it a day.

He also slowrolled in the AJ hand...guess people are just dicks here.

I did win some small pots today so that was good. I opened 22 in the HJ and button calls, he plays really loose and has about $30 left after the call. The BB shoves for $62 and was on super tilt after losing a pot. I called and the button called. I don't love having to call here but I think he's shoving just to go home. Maybe he would fold like 72o but I think he's shoving basically any two cards. Against a shove range of the top 66% of hands I have 48.3% equity. So if the other guy folds it's a profitable call, without the dead money and factoring in rake and tip it's probably a break even ish call.

I flopped a set and got a win against KJ front the guy who shoved and an unknown hand.

I also got it in with AsKs against an unknown hand and won. Action was he opens to $10 I 3 bet to $30 and he called. Flop was 853 two diamonds one spade. I opt to bet $35 and he min check raises to $70. I call. Turn is the Kd. He shoves for like $50 and I call. River is a king. I should've made him show first but I showed and he mucked.

I'm guessing he just had an 8,99, maybe a straight draw but maybe I sucked out against like 85s or 35s.

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Old 11-09-2017, 02:21 AM   #166
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Welcome to the table?

After a break I sit down at a new table. I have $290 to start the hand.

Straddle, 3 calls, , I make it $40 OTB with 77, straddle makes it $200, well **** this is an annoying spot. Decision is made much easier when UTG+1 limper shoves for $350-400. I fold...

Straddle shows J2s and UTG+1 shows TT. TT wins with a straight.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:40 AM   #167
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Don't raise 77 here just overcall. Doesn't play well in a bloated pot with short EF stacks. Just try make a set as cheaply as possible then value bet.
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Don't raise 77 here just overcall. Doesn't play well in a bloated pot with short EF stacks. Just try make a set as cheaply as possible then value bet.
Agree about the bloated pot and 7's is definitely the worst pair I do this with. Goal was What's the worst pair you are squeezing with in this spot at a stack depth of 50 straddles/100 BB's?

The deeper the stacks the more pairs I'm just limping.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:17 AM   #169
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Honestly like TT. You have very little fold equity pre. Trying less than TT is going to cause problems postflop. Live poker is all about making sets and stacking top pair lol
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Honestly like TT. You have very little fold equity pre. Trying less than TT is going to cause problems postflop. Live poker is all about making sets and stacking top pair lol
Usually I wouldn't, but what the hell, just for you I overlimped 9's on the button and won a nice pot as a result. I was deep with some drinking rec players who were limping any two but wouldn't always limp call.

I somehow still had an overpair going into the river.

3 way pot ended up being $150 on 632-8-2 and I won against 87o.

The best part is I've come back from $370 down and I'm somehow up a few on the day!
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:00 AM   #171
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Usually I wouldn't, but what the hell, just for you I overlimped 9's on the button and won a nice pot as a result. I was deep with some drinking rec players who were limping any two but wouldn't always limp call.

I somehow still had an overpair going into the river.

3 way pot ended up being $150 on 632-8-2 and I won against 87o.

The best part is I've come back from $370 down and I'm somehow up a few on the day!
NH.

For me 88-99 largely depends on my position. If I'm MP and don't think my ISO succeeds a lot, I'll overlimp/call. If I'm in LP and there's 1-2 limpers and they'll fold to a 5-6x iso, I'll do that.
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:17 AM   #172
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9 hours played, up $507!

Score one for positivity! After a relentlessly bad day, tired as hell, I stayed at what I thought would be an incredibly profitable table and it paid off. I was down about $375 and over 3 hours I ran up $230 to $1100

I started to build a stack betting in some thin value spots with top or second pair against stations. Caught some bad breaks after that but I made the disciplined folds to preserve my stack.

Then I got 3 big hands:

H1

I opened A4ss on the button over really bad rec player limp. He was newish to the table but he seemed to be playing almost every hand. I half pot a 23J two spade flop he calls. Turn A. I bet $25 into about $35 and he min raises, I call. I hit the river with the 6s.

He bets $50 I make it $150 and he tank calls with A7....

Nice donation.

H2: tilted guy limps I open QQ to $15 he makes it $30 I call. He's tilted and making bad postflop decisions but he isn't spazzing pre which is why I didn't 4 bet. It's more like he gets QQ and the board comes A high and he refuses to fold.

Anyway board bricks out and I call down 3 streets and get the win against AK.

H3: I open to $12 with 78cc, crazy guy makes it $28, monkey tilted guy calls and I call. Crazy guy hasn't been 3 betting light he just massively overbets and does random **** post flop.

Pot:$82

Flop:456...rainbow...with a club... I check and the guy jams with KK for about $250. I call and get the hold.

After that bad earlier session I think I spent a full hour at the casino just relaxing, I talked to the wife, watched some Live at the Bike, and it really helped prepare me for the rest of the night.
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Old 11-09-2017, 10:31 AM   #173
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The deeper the stacks the more pairs I'm just limping.
You are thinking about this backwards.
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You are thinking about this backwards.
Yea you are right I will amend that. We do need some kind of starting pot to get stacks in if we are deep enough. If we are deep enough we can also flat a 3 bet so we don't have to worry about getting pushed out of the pot.

I guess what I meant was there are certain stack depths (I had 50 straddles here) where there is an argument against raising because if we get 3 bet we can't set mine. At a shallower stack depth, we are also happier to take it down pre because if we go to a flop we aren't getting paid off that much if we hit.

Also, getting 3 bet isn't a much of a problem if our opponent is really short because we can just go with our hand and when we do run into aces etc we don't lose too much.


I'm insanely sleep deprived right now so hopefully this wasn't incoherent rambling.

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Well he 2/3 game I'm at is dead, should I go play the $50/100 game with Polk and Jungle? All the fish dropped out of the game so a bunch of seats are currently open

I'm curious if I played a tight range what my 6 max bb/100 winrate would be in that game.
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