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Old 10-12-2017, 07:54 PM   #76
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

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Too bad you are encountering the downswing so early in your shot at livepro, but as I'm sure you've heard they happen to everyone. As long as you have the bankroll for the stakes and can stay off tilt, and play as well as you can, the downswing will pass. Although they can last a lot longer than the uninitiated would expect.

I do wonder whether that 200 max buy-in, 3-5 blind format is your best choice.
You might look at other LA places where you can buy in deeper and see whether they are maybe a better fit for your game.
Thanks for the encouragement.

So I think the other option for me is the 2/3 300 max game at the bike. Yea the 3/5 definitely has some issues.

-I have no short stack experience
-Skill matters less shortstacked.
-Variance is higher

And finally, I'm not a terrific player yet. A lot of my edge comes from the fact that I play a stronger range than my opponents. But playing a tighter range and the blinds costing me 8 dollar an orbit, I have to get paid off when I hit my hands. And with the game being short stacked, I won't get paid off as much when I hit. This hasn't been an issue since I can't make any big hands yet lol, but it will be an issue eventually.

The upside is people doing **** like limp calling K8 utg and donking on king high dry boards. People also have no problem limp calling a hand like K2/A2s for $30 in a 3 way pot with only $150 behind. The action is really good.

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Old 10-13-2017, 03:25 AM   #77
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Baby steps.

10/12
2/3 $300 cap 4.5 hours played up $155
3/5 2.5 hours played down $7
1/2 $40 cap (lol) 1 hour played up $17

Well I continue to be insanely card dead so not really any interesting hand to report. Most of my 2/3 profits came from when I had TT hold up against 3-5 on a 248 board.

I wrote down all the hands I played today and I don't have a single even mildly interesting one to post. Boring kind of day but at least I made a few dollars.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:58 PM   #78
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Probably the luckiest/best/most exploitative hand I'll play for a while. I think it was high variance but I stand by how I played it no matter how non-standard it was.

Hand1: triple range merge.

2/3 $300 max.

V1: OMC-Old man cocaine, bets any piece of any board and won't fold to small bets. Certified whale. Donk bets on every street for tiny amounts.

V2: gambly rec player but can find a fold. Constantly coughing up prodigious amounts of pleghm and may need a doctor. Effective stack with $300

Rest of table is very tight.

OMC opens UTG1 to $10
I flat K9s UTG2 I can't fold with OMC in pot and very little 3 betting at the table. He's folded to some of my ISO 3 bets so I think flatting is best here.
LJ calls.

Flop:K64 one heart.

OMC bets $20, I call, LJ raises to 45. I would expect him to raise most of his kings but I obviously don't love this spot. If OMC folds I would probably fold as well but OMC calls.

Turn:A

OMC leads for 25, I call, LJ groans at the OMC bet and clearly has a king and was upset by the ace. He reluctantly calls. I seriously doubt it's an act.

River:2.

OMC bets 25 which I would expect him to do with literally any pair. I think he would size up with his strong value though. So now I have a decision. I can just call and risk v2 out kicking me with KT,KJ,KQ, or I can put in a small raise and simultaneously try to fold out better and get called by worse.

I opt to raise to 60. V2 shows his neighbor a better king than mine and folds, and OMC calls with JJ.

Currently up about $325 after 3.5 hours. Still can't really get any hands but the whales' donations helped. I'm winning just calling down with second pair right now.

I need to figure out what to do with strong but non-nutted hands out of the blinds. I think I need to do some studying on what ranges look like in 3 bet pots. I started just flatting hands like AQo and 99 instead of squeezing and I just don't feel like that's optimal. I just really hate playing out of position and mindlessly cbetting and then giving up after one barrel feels like a big leak. Check calling with air OOP also always feels bad. Maybe I'm just fllopping poorly and there's nothing to be done unless I'm just going to barrel off without equity.

Hand 2: wtf am I doing?

Limp, decent rep opens to 15, call, I call AhQd in the BB and the limper calls.

Pot:60

Flop:AK7ssd.

Checks around.

Turn:K

Hero?

Should I just donk flop given how many 2nd best hands can call me?
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:20 PM   #79
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

HH1....I hate when people say "fold preflop" but you should really fold this preflop or if you want to play more hands against the OMC you need to 3 bet him preflop here. You dont want to call with a garbage hand (and K9s is garbage in this spot) and let more people come in behind you. A 3 bet preflop will fold out most of the Ks that beat you.

The post flop play is really bad. You won the hand this time but I promise you that this is one of those things that will lead to lots of spew in the future. I see guys make hero calls all the time with A high and they look like a genius but you never see the times they make that same call with A high and then muck the loser. A bad play that works once in a while makes you thinks it s a good play and will cost you tons of money long term. "Simultaneously try to fold out a better hand while getting called by worse?" Come on dude. That was a once in a blue moon miracle. The river raise wasnt bad at all. Nobody bluff raises the river at low stakes so it can work pretty effectively when you do it, but to get called by worse at the same time was a miracle.

HH2...You could fold every single hand (that's not a pp) to a raise from the blinds and not be losing any EV. I'm not joking. You could fold even AK from the blinds when someone raises. Im not telling you to do that. Im just saying that calling raises from the blinds is a losing proposition. If you only 3 bet or fold (anything other than a small to mid pocket pair) you will be better off.

So my advice here is to fold AQ or to 3 bet it depending on the players.
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:35 AM   #80
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HH1....I hate when people say "fold preflop" but you should really fold this preflop or if you want to play more hands against the OMC you need to 3 bet him preflop here. You dont want to call with a garbage hand (and K9s is garbage in this spot) and let more people come in behind you. A 3 bet preflop will fold out most of the Ks that beat you.

The post flop play is really bad. You won the hand this time but I promise you that this is one of those things that will lead to lots of spew in the future. I see guys make hero calls all the time with A high and they look like a genius but you never see the times they make that same call with A high and then muck the loser. A bad play that works once in a while makes you thinks it s a good play and will cost you tons of money long term. "Simultaneously try to fold out a better hand while getting called by worse?" Come on dude. That was a once in a blue moon miracle. The river raise wasnt bad at all. Nobody bluff raises the river at low stakes so it can work pretty effectively when you do it, but to get called by worse at the same time was a miracle.

HH2...You could fold every single hand (that's not a pp) to a raise from the blinds and not be losing any EV. I'm not joking. You could fold even AK from the blinds when someone raises. Im not telling you to do that. Im just saying that calling raises from the blinds is a losing proposition. If you only 3 bet or fold (anything other than a small to mid pocket pair) you will be better off.

So my advice here is to fold AQ or to 3 bet it depending on the players.
Yea I've pretty much adopted the fold almost everything out of the blinds except pairs strategy. AK which I almost always 3bet, AQ and AJs (depending on the action and preflop sizings) are my last holdouts.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:55 AM   #81
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10/13

2/3 ($300 max) 4 hours played up $328
3/5: 5.5 hours played up $131.

9.5 hours played up $459

I played horrendously at 3/5. I think I let run bad effect two decisions and they cost me big time. I feel really dumb right now. I also just got up and left a profitable table early. Could've probably finished up $700 if I played my A game. Funny that I make solid decisions all trip and lose and play horrendously and finish up $131.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:01 AM   #82
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Started my own thread with cash and this thread looks really interesting subbed and gl.
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Old 10-14-2017, 02:03 PM   #83
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Hand 1: Fold pre. Key to being a low stakes live pro is playing TAG but being really good a extracting value from the range advantages.

-> be unbalanced and exploit wide ranges
-> don`t ever pull a true bluff like crai on the river, when you think that villain might fold a TPGK type of hand or something

K9 is an easy muck pre here. Longterm you are losing a lot of money by playing K9 in a spot like this one. I would probably flat with 22-TT, KQ, AJ and 3bet AQ+ and JJ+ for value. There is no need to be any wider than that, maybe even 3betting tighter or wider to isolate could be better, but flatting more is not good at all.

If villain was a good reg, I would consider flatting my entire continuing range, because we don`t want to force the recs out of the hand.

Hand 2:

Pre is good.

Flop can go either way. I would lead here small for like 20, because we are crushing their ranges. And it gives us more control over the hand. Checking is fine though.

as played:

I bet/fold turn for 20

and (if I get called) I b/f river 35ish.


Btw.

I would in general play super tight from the blinds and from UTG. Folding hands like AQ preflop in a spot like this is just a minor mistake EV-wise. Playing a wide range from UTG (like in the K9-hand) is a massive mistake and costs you big time.

I am 100% sure that folding every hand besides TT+ and AK from EP is way better than being kind of wide from EP. You just go to the flop multiway so often vs. undefined ranges and being OOP sucks vs more than 2 villains (even with AA).
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:58 PM   #84
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Hand 1: Fold pre. Key to being a low stakes live pro is playing TAG but being really good a extracting value from the range advantages.

-> be unbalanced and exploit wide ranges
-> don`t ever pull a true bluff like crai on the river, when you think that villain might fold a TPGK type of hand or something

K9 is an easy muck pre here. Longterm you are losing a lot of money by playing K9 in a spot like this one. I would probably flat with 22-TT, KQ, AJ and 3bet AQ+ and JJ+ for value. There is no need to be any wider than that, maybe even 3betting tighter or wider to isolate could be better, but flatting more is not good at all.

If villain was a good reg, I would consider flatting my entire continuing range, because we don`t want to force the recs out of the hand.

Hand 2:

Pre is good.

Flop can go either way. I would lead here small for like 20, because we are crushing their ranges. And it gives us more control over the hand. Checking is fine though.

as played:

I bet/fold turn for 20

and (if I get called) I b/f river 35ish.


Btw.

I would in general play super tight from the blinds and from UTG. Folding hands like AQ preflop in a spot like this is just a minor mistake EV-wise. Playing a wide range from UTG (like in the K9-hand) is a massive mistake and costs you big time.

I am 100% sure that folding every hand besides TT+ and AK from EP is way better than being kind of wide from EP. You just go to the flop multiway so often vs. undefined ranges and being OOP sucks vs more than 2 villains (even with AA).
K9s is usually a snap muck from UTG+1 but this guy was stacking off wth bottom pair. Just saw him call a check shove on the turn with 55 on an A high board. The rest of the table didn't seem interested in adjusting though, they kept playing their tight ranges so I wasn't worried about someone 3 betting light to isolate. It was a very specific adjustment to the circumstances, not my standard play.

Hand 2, yea I bet folded which makes me wonder if flatting is really that profitable. I basically have to have everything go perfect to win. Maybe if it was suited then I'll at least have some good semi-bluffs and added equity.
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Old 10-14-2017, 06:31 PM   #85
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Started my own thread with cash and this thread looks really interesting subbed and gl.
Thanks. Good luck to you as well! I'll make sure to check out your thread.

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Old 10-15-2017, 01:16 AM   #86
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What is this elusive fold equity people speak of?

A tight image really is worthless. I've been playing at this table with the same people for about 6 hours. I've been insanely card dead and I've heard people mention how tight I've been playing.

When I do open a pot, it usually goes 4 ways and I usually check give up after whiffing.

Hand 1: Fold Equity is a Myth.
3/5
Hero is the effective stack with $230

Blind raise to 10, call, call, keep in mind their calling ranges are suuuuper wide. It folds to me in the BB and I make it 65 with KcQc

The two callers call.

Flop: TT4 One club.
Pot:205

Their ranges are super wide and I have been super tight. They have so many hands that miss here so I decide to fire.

Hero bets 160. Villain shoves for my last 45 and I call.

Villain had mother****ing pocket deuces.

Turn brick. River K.

Hero wins.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:26 AM   #87
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You can't beat this action. Everyone has been blind raising so eventually I join in. Money is going in before the cards are dealt so no angling.

Hero blind raises to 10 UTG, UTG1 blind raises to 15, UTG2 blind raises to 20 LJ blind raises to 25 HJ blind raises to 30. CO blind raises to 35. Button declines to blind raise.
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:28 AM   #88
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****load of BBV complaining incoming:

Idk what to do at this point. I told myself today I wouldn't let the money get to me and just deal with the variance. I ran really poorly for most of the day and dealt with it really well.

So even though I'm at a super high variance table, it was just so + EV I decided to stick with It.

After playing for about 9 hours I was up $150 or so playing really good poker and making smart decisions even though I haven't had much to work with. There's so much blind raising and limping with trash I don't need much to make money.

Then the ****storm that is my luck on this trip continues:

As a side note. All blind raises are truly blind, the money is going in before the cards are dealt.

H1: I open AK to $70 over a bunch of blind raises. 3 bet to $230 by tight player who seems to have one foot out the door. Call for less. I am able to fold. He had aces and the flop was K43.

Awesome. A little frustrating to run into aces but whatever I made an awesome fold. If I had called pre it was all going in on the flop.

H2: I open to 70 the SB with 88 over a bunch of blind raises. Blind raiser who has been playing wild shoves for $190 or so and I call.

I lose to 89o.

Wow that sucks. Ok but I said I would stay cool let me just keep playing my A game.

H3 Hero opens pocket tens to 55 over two blind raises. One of the blind raisers shoves for $180 or so. I call and lose to pocket 5's.

H4: With the average stack being like $400 I open QQ to $50 over 4 limps and get called by BB and one limper. AK9 flop which I fold. One of them flopped two pair with A9.

I'm down like $300 or so on the day. I honestly think I can keep making the right decisions but this is just insanely brutal.

I have to be thousands below EV these last few months. I can't even count how many times I get it in with a pair vs a smaller pair and lose.

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Old 10-15-2017, 03:43 AM   #89
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I'm finding that playing every pot just because a whale is in it to be -ev. Maybe just my recent experience, but I tend to get sucked into their tilt.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:33 AM   #90
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What is this elusive fold equity people speak of?

A tight image really is worthless. I've been playing at this table with the same people for about 6 hours. I've been insanely card dead and I've heard people mention how tight I've been playing.

When I do open a pot, it usually goes 4 ways and I usually check give up after whiffing.

Hand 1: Fold Equity is a Myth.
3/5
Hero is the effective stack with $230

Blind raise to 10, call, call, keep in mind their calling ranges are suuuuper wide. It folds to me in the BB and I make it 65 with KcQc

The two callers call.

Flop: TT4 One club.
Pot:205

Their ranges are super wide and I have been super tight. They have so many hands that miss here so I decide to fire.

Hero bets 160. Villain shoves for my last 45 and I call.

Villain had mother****ing pocket deuces.

Turn brick. River K.

Hero wins.
Hm. Difficult spot.

I would rather call preflop at this table than 3bet players that just don`t fold. Playing ultra tight here is absolutely right.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:38 AM   #91
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****load of BBV complaining incoming:

Idk what to do at this point. I told myself today I wouldn't let the money get to me and just deal with the variance. I ran really poorly for most of the day and dealt with it really well.

So even though I'm at a super high variance table, it was just so + EV I decided to stick with It.

After playing for about 9 hours I was up $150 or so playing really good poker and making smart decisions even though I haven't had much to work with. There's so much blind raising and limping with trash I don't need much to make money.

Then the ****storm that is my luck on this trip continues:

As a side note. All blind raises are truly blind, the money is going in before the cards are dealt.

H1: I open AK to $70 over a bunch of blind raises. 3 bet to $230 by tight player who seems to have one foot out the door. Call for less. I am able to fold. He had aces and the flop was K43.

Awesome. A little frustrating to run into aces but whatever I made an awesome fold. If I had called pre it was all going in on the flop.

H2: I open to 70 the SB with 88 over a bunch of blind raises. Blind raiser who has been playing wild shoves for $190 or so and I call.

I lose to 89o.

Wow that sucks. Ok but I said I would stay cool let me just keep playing my A game.

H3 Hero opens pocket tens to 55 over two blind raises. One of the blind raisers shoves for $180 or so. I call and lose to pocket 5's.

H4: With the average stack being like $400 I open QQ to $50 over 4 limps and get called by BB and one limper. AK9 flop which I fold. One of them flopped two pair with A9.

I'm down like $300 or so on the day. I honestly think I can keep making the right decisions but this is just insanely brutal.

I have to be thousands below EV these last few months. I can't even count how many times I get it in with a pair vs a smaller pair and lose.
H1: well played.

H2: Just go all in preflop yourself. how much money was in the pot before you raised? If there is like >40$ in the Pot and you have 230$ behind, I like a preflop shove, because playing 88 OOP is super tough, even with a very low stack-to-pot-ratio.

H3: Standard.

H4: Standard.

Read the thread by DGAF about variance. Variance in Poker is super sick.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:43 AM   #92
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****load of BBV complaining incoming:

Idk what to do at this point. I told myself today I wouldn't let the money get to me and just deal with the variance. I ran really poorly for most of the day and dealt with it really well.

So even though I'm at a super high variance table, it was just so + EV I decided to stick with It.

After playing for about 9 hours I was up $150 or so playing really good poker and making smart decisions even though I haven't had much to work with. There's so much blind raising and limping with trash I don't need much to make money.

Then the ****storm that is my luck on this trip continues:

As a side note. All blind raises are truly blind, the money is going in before the cards are dealt.

H1: I open AK to $70 over a bunch of blind raises. 3 bet to $230 by tight player who seems to have one foot out the door. Call for less. I am able to fold. He had aces and the flop was K43.

Awesome. A little frustrating to run into aces but whatever I made an awesome fold. If I had called pre it was all going in on the flop.

H2: I open to 70 the SB with 88 over a bunch of blind raises. Blind raiser who has been playing wild shoves for $190 or so and I call.

I lose to 89o.

Wow that sucks. Ok but I said I would stay cool let me just keep playing my A game.

H3 Hero opens pocket tens to 55 over two blind raises. One of the blind raisers shoves for $180 or so. I call and lose to pocket 5's.

H4: With the average stack being like $400 I open QQ to $50 over 4 limps and get called by BB and one limper. AK9 flop which I fold. One of them flopped two pair with A9.

I'm down like $300 or so on the day. I honestly think I can keep making the right decisions but this is just insanely brutal.

I have to be thousands below EV these last few months. I can't even count how many times I get it in with a pair vs a smaller pair and lose.
OP don't give up, take a few days off. I am making the run at being a full time poker player in a couple months time. I play around 20-30 hours ontop of a full time job now.

I have a couple friends who play FT and they say the number 1 reason people quit on poker who have goals is variance. They're good players but the swings are mentally stressful, it takes one bad month to crack even some of the most sound poker players. Weather the storm, and gl
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:01 AM   #93
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10/14

12 hours played. Down $500

At least I mostly played well...I guess that's the silver lining.

I think I made significant errors in 3 hands and those mistakes probably cost me about $300. I made one call with AA vs a flop shove at the end of the night that was questionable and lost about $175 on the call.

I also made some awesome plays. Made disciplined folds, went for thin value, kept tight preflop even when card dead.

I also wasnt afraid to aggressively bloat the pot preflop when I knew doing so would increase variance but would be more profitable than just limping or flatting. In the past I've been too passive and today I was aggressive. Hopefully it works out next time.

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Old 10-15-2017, 06:02 AM   #94
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OP don't give up, take a few days off. I am making the run at being a full time poker player in a couple months time. I play around 20-30 hours ontop of a full time job now.

I have a couple friends who play FT and they say the number 1 reason people quit on poker who have goals is variance. They're good players but the swings are mentally stressful, it takes one bad month to crack even some of the most sound poker players. Weather the storm, and gl
Thank you so much for the support. I'm going to try to take a deep breath and get control of dealing with this downswing.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:15 AM   #95
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H1: well played.

H2: Just go all in preflop yourself. how much money was in the pot before you raised? If there is like >40$ in the Pot and you have 230$ behind, I like a preflop shove, because playing 88 OOP is super tough, even with a very low stack-to-pot-ratio.

H3: Standard.

H4: Standard.

Read the thread by DGAF about variance. Variance in Poker is super sick.
I think there was a blind raise to $10, $15 and a call (but may have been a blind raise to $20 I forget) so with the blinds there was $46-51 in the pot. I think shoving is probably optimal against tougher opponents.

At the time I thought giving them a chance to shove a hand like A4, 22-66 etc, was the better option. Keep in mind, the last time I made this play I got looked up by 22 that then called on a TT4 flop.

I'll make sure to check out the thread, thanks.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:39 PM   #96
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Alright took Sunday and Monday and got my head straight. Talked to a friend who played professionally at the commerce for a year and did pretty well. That was helpful. He reminded me one week is a nothing sample and he and his friend who he split profits with had a losing month where they lost a few thousand.

For now I'm really going to focus on process oriented goals instead of results. Going to focus on making sure I'm putting in the hours and studying and exercising. That's the major goal for the next few weeks and hopefully the results will follow.

Off to a good start today. Was feeling kind of lazy but made sure to get out and play.

2/3 live

Hand 1: Well I hope she has AQ...or A2.

woman just sat down and bought in for $200. This is her second hand.

She opens to $15 UTG+1 and I decide to flat AKs on the button which is close but I think is correct. Blinds have been playing pretty tight and they both fold.

Flop: AJ7

She bets 25 and I take a few seconds and call.

Turn:6

She very quickly bets 45 and I call.

River:7

She insta shoves for 120. I sigh call after a few seconds and she had A2 and I take it down.

Hand 2: Lucky decision to flat.

Very next hand. She rebuys for $200

She opens to $15, I call with AQdd, and the blinds call.

Flop: T72 two diamonds.

She continues for $45. I think it's somewhat close between calling and raising but I like calling more. At this stack depth I don't anticipate getting a lot of folds from her and I let worse draws call out of the blinds. I opted to call. BB who looks like a solid player and had been playing snug fairly quickly shoves for like $330 she calls. I don't think he's shoving top pair or JJ. Sure he's shoving some of his combo draws and pair +draw but he's also always shoving his sets.

Ugh. I fold. He had 22 and she had QQ. He boated up on the turn and diamonds missed. So both flatting pre and on the flop saved me some $$$

I think the fold was correct. I just plugged in my best guess of his range and I don't think I have more than 33 percent equity against his range. Overall I don't see myself having more ham 30 percent 3 ways. There are some players where I think calling is mandatory but didn't feel like he was shoving light here. The only naked flush draw I have him was KQdd

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Old 10-17-2017, 10:11 PM   #97
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H3: Throwing out some barrels and breaking my vow of silence.

A little bit of a weird hand for me since I almost never talk during a hand and would often give up on this turn.

Two limps, open to $15 by decent seeming rec in the CO who has been successfully bullying the table with a wide range.

Hero has AdQh in the BB and opts to raise to $55. I've been playing fairly tight and thought he noticed which it turns out he did. I also know sometimes image doesn't help much lol.

Pot:$110
Flop: 885 two spades.

Hero continues for $75. Not an ideal board to cbet but I thought I would get a decent amount of credit here if I size up with my bet. He takes a long time and starts talking to me. He very clearly has something like 77-JJ. It looks like he wants to call. He asks if I'll show if he folds. I know it's level one thinking that "yes"means I want a fold but I say "sure, I'll show". I'm not trying to level him, I'm just trying to come across as relaxed.

Pot: $260

Turn: offsuit 3.

Ugh. Not a great spot to barrel.

Hero takes about 15 seconds and shoves for $200. He starts tanking and talking to me and I don't respond. He looks like he wants to call. **** it I'll try talking again. I ask him if he has something like TT which I know is level 1 talk that serves be purpose of trying to strengthen my perceived range. It's the "I know what you have and I bet anyway" logic. Overall I'm just trying to come across as relaxed and comfortable with the situation.

He took a long time, at least three minutes, and ultimately folded pocket jacks. Unfortuante to run into the top of his range but very fortunate to get the fold anyway. I did show and he said I've been playing tight which is why he made the fold.

Overall I definitely will be sticking with not talking. Here, I just felt like he was going to make the call so I wanted to try to change his mind.

H4: weird spot with TT

Tight player opens, I flat in HJ, woman calls on button and BB calls.

Flop, 974r.

Checks to me, woman checks out of turn. I bet $35 and get called by the woman and BB.

Turn is a 7. Now the BB donks for $45. Ugh.

Hero wishes he had 3 bet pre.

Now hero does what??? Is it way too exploitative to consider a fold here? They each have about $180 behind and I cover.

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Old 10-18-2017, 04:30 AM   #98
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Damn currently really card dead at an insane 2/3 game. One guy is shoving 75 percent of hands for $100 and rebuying everytime he loses. Another guy bet 40 into a $40 pot and snap called off a $140 shove on AT6r with 84o. Was planning on leaving about 2 hours ago but this game is too juicy.

Edit: Probably going to call it a night at 11 hours played up $130. Really frustrating cause I was up $340 going into this table.

Everytime the game turns into bingo where it goes 5 to the flop I can't win. It's not like I start over valuing one pair and I'm making mistakes, I just can't hit and bluffing is pointless.

I mean maybe I should start raising huge pre even with hands like AJs because it is easier to play and I do have a bigger edge in heads up or three way pots. Then again, is it really so bad if I'm raising to $15-18 and getting called by 4 people with hands like J6? Is it just results oriented thinking that I want to fold out those hands? I like peoples ranges being weak but it does just turn into postflop bingo.

I did say I would try to judge myself more on the process than the outcome. I played well today and pushed myself to stay later than I planned when table conditions were good. I deserve credit for that.

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Old 10-19-2017, 06:42 PM   #99
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Keep it tight on tables like that. You'll run good and bink a few grand soon.
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Old 10-20-2017, 01:46 AM   #100
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Keep it tight on tables like that. You'll run good and bink a few grand soon.
Thanks man. I really hope so.
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