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Old 12-05-2018, 08:24 AM   #926
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

And yeah just call the AQ hand we are likely ahead and have the nut draw on an otherwise static board. There are no bad turns or rivers beside some runner runner combos and raising I think we might get some dominated flush draws to give up, plus gutshots and worse QX and underpairs. And do we keep betting on blank turns and rivers? If someone calls and shoves a brick turn or river it massively sucks.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:48 PM   #927
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Blind flips are fine for the reasons you stated but they are also game breakers. I've been in many games that have broken due to blind flips. The reason being that most people that want to blind flip are doing so to get back to even or be put out of their misery. I've been at the table where it was one player's last hand so he wanted to blind flip. 2 players obliged, and he stacked both of them so now instead of being down 1 player, we were down 3 players.

I'm actually undefeated in blind flips and am 4-1 in sweating blind flips, so I'm not against them but they definitely break games.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:32 PM   #928
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Yea the more I think about the AQs band the more I feel like it’s a flat. I don’t think I thought it through properly in real time.

Pio has QQ no heart as like 70% check 30% bet against his obscenely wide range on that board. I assumed it was going to be 70% bet 30% check so I was slightly mistaken in real time. Against someone who is floating with like A3hh on KT5 ddc then firing pot on a 3 river I don’t mind going for some value or getting some folds on that board. We can’t really pot control OOP anyway since he can make sure a bet goes in on any street. I’m curious if Pio checks at a higher frequency IP.

I know it’s a game killer but they are regs here and I didn’t want to be the guy that kills their fun. There are also some big private games here that I might want to eventually get it on so I don’t want to be the wet blanket guy. it was also 3:30 a.m and the room closes at 3:45 a.m. anyway.

I don’t typically do blind flips but I know what you are saying Shai, usually one of the pros does take them up on their offer for this reason. I have joined in on quite a few $50 bomb pots etc though.

Also an interesting development, my room started spreading short deck yesterday and it’s also going today...I wonder if it’s worth learning, I could study it and be a pretty big edge.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:49 PM   #929
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Blind flips are fine for the reasons you stated but they are also game breakers. I've been in many games that have broken due to blind flips. The reason being that most people that want to blind flip are doing so to get back to even or be put out of their misery. I've been at the table where it was one player's last hand so he wanted to blind flip. 2 players obliged, and he stacked both of them so now instead of being down 1 player, we were down 3 players.

I'm actually undefeated in blind flips and am 4-1 in sweating blind flips, so I'm not against them but they definitely break games.
Yeah I can see that. I wouldn't do it at a table with fewer than 8 players.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:58 PM   #930
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It was just a matter of time. Your room spreads all kinds of weird holdem variants. I'd say play it if the stakes are decent assuming you know the rules. I figure a lot of fish would be confused by flushes beating full houses and trips beating straights etc. So it might be good for a while.

But...long run games like this are bad for NLHE as equities run closer together and it'sa simpler game mathematically. Once people get the basics down I figure your edge in short deck would be smaller.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:04 AM   #931
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5 hours played up $800 today. 2/5 game was bad late night and there was no 1/3 running so I left early. Not too many interesting decisions. I had one huge suckout where I had KK v AA v JJ all in pre for $450 each in a straddled pot. I also had one decision where I didn't table my hand against a reg pro so I'm not going to go into it. Other than that I bricked literally every flop multiway with the exception of two hands, nothing too exciting:

H1: 88 flops an overpair

Three limps, I overlimped 88 MP due to the table dynamics (two of the three EP players who limped were very LRR heavy and players behind me were whales/maniacs. We take a 5 way flop.

pot:25

643r

Whale leads $30, pro flats, I raise to $120, whale calls, pro folds.

I know pro very well, he is going to be very capped here, whale is uncapped so if I run into a big hand that sucks but this hand is ahead of too much of his range and plays too poorly multiway to not raise.

Pot: $265

Turn: A

x, H$175, v calls.

River 9.
xx

I table my hand and scoop.

H2: Unexpected line from V

Limp, hero opens KJhh to $25 in the HJ, button, sb and limper call.

pot:100

flop Q86r one heart

xxxx

Turn Kr
xx, H$65, button calls, sb raises to $225 with 200 behind. Fold, h folds, button folds.

I ask v what he has and he tables 88.
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:17 PM   #932
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

How often are they running short deck? I’ve been wanting to try it out.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:33 AM   #933
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So far just twice, it's looking like it might not be a regular thing. I'll keep you posted.

Today went poorly yet again, down about $800, basically lost every hand, once I made top pair in a single raised pot and took it down on the flop. Here was where most of the money went:

V1 covers
H$650
BB$130

Whale limps, H opens KhKd to $30 in the sb, whale calls the BB and limper calls.


Flop: 457 two hearts.

X, $50, call, H$225, call , call.

Turn ts

H shoves, V1 calls.

River is a heart.

V1 shows A2hh

In another hand tonight v1 limp called $100 against me with A3o and hit the flop against my JJ.

I also made a pretty terrible call for $75 in another hand, not always thinking things through clearly right now.

Didn't play too much today, just feel like I needed a break. I'm getting too frustrated by the poor results recently, going to try to start over tomorrow.

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Old 12-07-2018, 01:39 PM   #934
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Your up/down mindset following results perfectly emulates the main struggle people go through in live poker. Not nagging, I had it too. Matt Moore’s thread starts out very similarly.

*winning session* “really feel like I’m playing my A-game and the results are showing, poker is fun!”

*losing session* “man these whales run so pure. Also probably not playing well. Poker sucks!”

I honestly can’t give you advice on how to get through it...only that these emotional swings went away for me when I went back to work. (Which I believe indicates that the tremendous pressure to constantly earn would be the main contributing factor).
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:49 PM   #935
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Thanks, I really appreciate the input and it’s always helpful to know that you aren’t alone.

I have been trying to look on the bright side today and there are some positives. I am doing much better now than when I went through this same stretch of luck December last year when I went out to LA and got absolutely smashed playing at the Commerce.

There is also a lot more I can be doing to help myself get through this. Exercising more, eating better, doing mindfulness, and reading through books and doing mental game exercises are all things I can be doing more of. I’m lucky enough to have a supportive SO who is also in the mental health field and she’s been giving me some tips to help out. I’m going to spend the next week or two playing mostly 1/3 while I work on developing better habits and studying some spots that I know I need to work on.

The other thing is, I’ve taken a big step up in stakes recently and that’s just going to be an adjustment. The 2/5 games I’ve been playing in have often, probably usually, been straddled and double straddled for most of the night. I’m often making it $100 preflop over limps or limp reraising to $200-300, that’s a bit different from what I’m used to.

At the end of the day, I’ve really enjoyed the last 5 months playing poker full time and I’ve made a somewhat respectable salary so far. I haven’t added up the results recently, but I would guess my results in the last 5 months put me on pace to make somewhere in the ballpark of 70k/yr.

I was writing this while waiting for my game and I’ve just been seated. Going to go into tonight with a good attitude and hope for the best.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:21 PM   #936
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I’m lucky enough to have a supportive SO who is also in the mental health field and she’s been giving me some tips to help out.
Does she coach? Lol
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:48 AM   #937
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PhD in clinical psychology so close enough.

6 hours played up about $600 today. The goal wasn't to win, the goal was to play entirely tilt/frustration free which I accomplished. Somehow one 2/5 game ended up with all of the pros and decent recs and the other was the G.O.A.T. 2/5 game. Plan was to mostly play 1/3 but this game was 6-7 handed with all of the room's worst recs and not one other pro.

Was super card dead for the first two hours. Limped behind some small pairs and didn't hit sets. Played two raised pots:

H opens Q8s in the CO, BB calls. K88r x, bet, fold.

H opens AK, BB flats. BB is the guy who donked the A3o against me for pot when he hit a 3 on the river.

QJ8r

xx

Turn A

V $25, h calls

River 9 bd flush misses

V $145, H folds. I tell him nice hand and he shows JJ.

Things start to pick up a bit:

h1: KK holds

H is the effective stack with $650

Button straddles, HJ double straddles. Folds to CO who raises to $80, folds to me UTG with KsKc. There is one nit on my left and the HJ who is a huge whale left to act. I don't know a ton about CO, seems like a pretty bad rec.

I usually 3 bet in these spots but decided on flat since I have a rock image, SPR will be low no matter what, and HJ is going to play really poorly post-flop. I call and HJ calls.

pot:240

J64 two hearts.

XX, $100, H $300, HJ fold rec calls. Turn is an offsuit T, I jam he calls. River is a Q.

I show and he goes to muck. As he goes to muck I see a black 9 flip over.

h2: Hero doesn't raise the flop.

7 handed whale MP straddles. Hero is $1300 effective.

Very fun player limps BB, I raise to $30 UTG with A5hh, +1 calls, straddle calls and BB calls.

pot:120

flop: A64r dhs

BB, who I have a ton of history with, leads out for $40, I flat, everyone else folds. His lead range is basically anything from AK to K4o to 66. No he doesn't raise AK pre. I would expect to see hands like 56s or AT more than 66 or K4o but anything is possible here.

Turn 3d

V $40, h calls.

River 5c

V$50, h calls. V shows 67o for the flopped middle pair and the rivered straight lol. I don't know if I should have raised flop or turn. Ugh, river is the one card that makes his hand and gets him paid.

H3: Hero raises the flop.

v1, the guy from h1, opens to $25, v2 from h2 flats, I flat QJcc in the CO.

flop:Jh9c4h

pot: $75

V1 $30, v2 call, I raise to $110 and both fold. V2 shows me AKo before folding. I didn't think v1 had anything strong for that sizing and wanted to get value from v2 hence the non-standard raise.

Other than that nothing of note happened, was pretty card dead/flop dead. A good lag pro and tag rec sat down on my direct left and one of the whales left so I decided to lock up the win and move down to 1/3.

1/3 went poorly, gave about $400 back. I lost every hand for two hours straight in a very soft game. Missed a bunch of flops and then in my last hand I ran AA into 56 on 234 and got stacked by a whale for $200. No getting away from it since this was a guy who went bet bet bet/call against the oldest man coffee with Tc2d on T63hhh-A-2h. This was the same OMC who is so tight I folded KK against him pre for less than 100 bb's.

Game was obviously still good at that point, but I was on the verge of getting too frustrated so I decided I would rather just leave happy and call it a night.

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Old 12-08-2018, 10:40 PM   #938
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The 2/5 was dead so I left and it and broke, the 1/3 was dead, another pro/friend of mine proposed we play 1/3 crazy pineapple and we actually got a full table going. Never played before but half the people in the lineup have also never played before and it’s a soft lineup so gamboool time. Wish me luck.

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So far down $100 at 1/3 and 2/5 NLHE and.... up $730 at 1/3 crazy pineapple! Game just broke unfortunately but it was a fun time.
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So far down $100 at 1/3 and 2/5 NLHE and.... up $730 at 1/3 crazy pineapple! Game just broke unfortunately but it was a fun time.
I love me some crazy pineapple. Was it pot limit or NL?
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Old Yesterday, 04:54 PM   #941
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No limit. Yea it was fun as hell. I would like to see if we could make it some kind of semi-regular game, maybe pick out one day a week where we spread either that or short deck or something. I’m not super optimistic but it’s possible. It was definitely nice to change it up and play something different.

It also made me want to learn some PLO but it’s too bad there isn’t a 1-2 PLO game at the Hard Rock. I could learn online and then take a couple buy in shot at the 5/5 I guess. I also still have a few major leaks in my NL game I need to work on.

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Old Today, 12:16 AM   #942
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A reg at THR told me they are trying to get a pineapple game going on Mondays at 11:00 a.m.

I might check it out tomorrow. Its 5/5 pot limit and it's pineapple instead of crazy pineapple (discard before flop).
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Old Today, 01:40 AM   #943
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No limit. Yea it was fun as hell. I would like to see if we could make it some kind of semi-regular game, maybe pick out one day a week where we spread either that or short deck or something. I’m not super optimistic but it’s possible. It was definitely nice to change it up and play something different.

It also made me want to learn some PLO but it’s too bad there isn’t a 1-2 PLO game at the Hard Rock. I could learn online and then take a couple buy in shot at the 5/5 I guess. I also still have a few major leaks in my NL game I need to work on.
They occasionally run a 2/2 PLO but it plays really deep. There's a $5 bring-in and max BI is $500 (or $600?) so it plays more like a loose 2/5 NL. The 5/5 PLO has a more standard structure but the nature of PLO I figure you need about 5x as much bankroll compared to NLHE, particularly if you're still trying to figure it out like I am. Which is why I don't play it. I'm just going to jump in when the game looks good after my roll has recovered a bit more, hope I run good. The 2/5 NL at Hard Rock is sometimes awesome but often there isn't one good table and it would be really helpful if I could just switch it up and go play PLO when there are no good 2/5 games.

That's what the best players in the room do. They play mostly NLHE but will sit down at a NLHE table and if it looks ****ty just get up and go play PLO. I feel like the ability to switch between games on demand is really important for maximizing long term profits.
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