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Old 01-11-2018, 09:47 PM   #426
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[ ] Straight flush
Oops. I think you are right. The math checks out. 4 in a row is not in fact a straight flush. Either there was the Kh out there or he just lost to a flush. Can't remember which.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:48 PM   #427
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Crap, I'm doing really well in an ignition tournament right now and my wifi went down. Don't think I can play tournaments on the mobile app.
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:19 PM   #428
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Took Wendsday and Thursday off and had something come up on Friday so I have some catching up to do. Goal is to play 11 hours today and another 19 hours on Sunday/Monday. Once February hits I'll be able to get the hours back up again it's just a little tough right now. Won't have to take so many days off on the weekends and will be able to spend some nights staying near/at the casino.

Played about 4 hours online Wednesday. Finished up $2 on cash games and got it in good deep in a tournament but couldn't get the hold. AKvAQsVAJo and AJo took it down. I can't complain too much though because I built my stack getting it in AA v AK. I can't imagine being a pro tournament player and dealing with the variance involved.

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Old 01-13-2018, 06:21 PM   #429
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Not a big pot but I think I made a small mistake raising turn here. Villain is a MAWG, this is hero's first orbit at the table and have see villain play one hand that seems to show his strategy is just clicking buttons. Two limps, villain makes it $7 OTB with 55 they call. Flop 478r. Checks to him, he bets $20 and gets one call. Turn is a J. Check, he bets $20 and guy calls. River is a 6 and the guy donk jams into him for $25 and he calls.

I don't think betting 55 on that flop in position is terrible, but given the preflop action and the turn bet I doubt it's part of any serious strategy.

OTTH. Villain limps in the LJ, hero makes it $10 OTB with KdJd and he calls.

Pot:$21.

Flop: AJ4r.

Cc.

Turn Kr.

He bets $10. So if he has a weak ace, I don't think I can raise here and get a bet in on the river. I do get more value from Qx and Tc by raising now. I decided to split the baby and put in a small raise to $25 with the plan to bet small on blank rivers.

I raise to $25 and he calls.

Pot is now $68.

River is a 2 and I put out a bet of $30 and he hesitates and folds.

Given that he was kinda just clicking buttons in the 55 hand, and given how his range is probably either really weak here or he has a straight, I should probably just be calling turn and then raise fold the river.

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Old 01-13-2018, 08:39 PM   #430
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Straddle, Hero doesn't see the straddle and makes it $10 in the LJ with AQs, one call. Nit 3 bets to $45. Is there any stack depth at which calling here is going to be profitable? Let's assume JJ and AKo are the absolute bottom of his 3 bet range but I definitely wouldn't give him full combos of those hands. The caller ended up having QTs and played it terribly so that helps the situation a bit.

3 bettor of was only like $250 deep so I folded. He had KK.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:03 AM   #431
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Hmm.

Hero opens AdKc UTg to $10. V1, Guy who only bets when he has it calls and two more call including BB.

Flop: QdTd6s.

BB checks. Hero checks, V1 bets $20 and it folds back to me. Hero???

I've seen villain check A8 twice on A-7-4 two tone, turn offsuit 3. I've also seen him exploitatively fold two pair. So he plays pretty weak tight so I think if a diamond hits I'll be able to take it down. A J gives me the nuts, unless it's diamonds, but I doubt he ever has diamonds here except maybe 67dd, and I can hit an A or K. The problem is a lot of the hands he is betting with a pair will also have an A or a K in them.

I need 25% equity to call here and against TT, 66, AQ, KQ I'm getting the right price, but I still have to realize that equity. I do think he would bet bigger with TT and 66 but I'm not sure. I could check raise, I could call, and I could fold.

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Old 01-14-2018, 02:05 AM   #432
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Frustrating day so far. After about 8.5 hours I'm up like $20 playing 1/2. Game has been soft and I've been exploiting the right people pretty well with some bluffs but I've just been really card dead. Made one bad $25 call with the 4th nut flush, maybe misplayed the Kj hand, but I've gotten every bluff through. Not too many interesting or tough spots.
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Old 01-14-2018, 04:01 AM   #433
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10.5 hours played up $82. At least my red line has been looking good lately...just gotta get that blue line up. I've also made one bad call in each of my last 3 sessions that added up to lighting about $225 on fire so I've got to avoid those. "They can't always have it, and I'm really high up in my range" against passive players are not good enough reasons to call!

Overall I'm really happy with how I played today, just got to keep working hard to improve.

Played one interesting hand tonight with jacks as well:https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...25/?highlight=
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:19 PM   #434
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Hero called in the above JJ hand. Turn was a brick and he check folded what he said was a 66.

Spent some time today firming up my preflop ranges and then using them to breakdown some hands I have played during my past few sessions. I put them in groups of 2, some of the hands I would only open from the later of the two positions. I'm not opening or limping AJo UTG for instance, but UTG+1 with the right table conditions I would.

Ranges:

UTG/UTG+1:
Aggressive/solid table:
Pairs: 88+
Suited: AJ+
Offsuit: AQo+

Passive/rec table:
55+
ATs+ KJs+
AJo+

UTG+2, LJ

Aggressive/solid Table:
77+
A9s+ KJs+ QJs+
AJo+
KQo+

Passive/rec Table:
22+
A8s+ KTs+ QTs+ JTs+
KJo+
ATo+

HJ/CO
Aggressive/Solid Table:
22+
A5s+ K9s+ J9s+ Q9s+ 87S+
QJo+ KJo+ A9o+

Passive/Rec table
22+
A2s+ J8s+ Q8s+ K8s+ 65s+
JTo+, QTo+ KTo+ A7o+

In the CO against an open from UTG+2 my range looks something like:

Call: 66-88. ATs, AQo. JTs-KQs
Sometimes call sometimes raise: 99/TT/AJs
Usually raise or fold, sometimes call: A2-A5s, 56-T9s
Usually raise sometimes flat: JJ, AQs, AKo
Almost always raising: AKs, QQ+

Maybe call: 22-55, QTs, KTs, A9s, J9s, AJo, KQo
Usually fold, sometimes raise: 54s, T8s, 97s

The what to do vs RFI depends a lot on table dynamics and something I have been doing a lot lately is attacking people who vary their preflop sizings based on hand strength.

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Old 01-15-2018, 02:58 AM   #435
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Cool ranges. I think on the passive/rec tables you can get away with limping 22-88 even.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:22 AM   #436
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Hero called in the above JJ hand. Turn was a brick and he check folded what he said was a 66.

Spent some time today firming up my preflop ranges and then using them to breakdown some hands I have played during my past few sessions. I put them in groups of 2, some of the hands I would only open from the later of the two positions. I'm not opening or limping AJo UTG for instance, but UTG+1 with the right table conditions I would.

Ranges:

UTG/UTG+1:
Aggressive/solid table:
Pairs: 88+
Suited: AJ+
Offsuit: AQo+

Passive/rec table:
55+
ATs+ KJs+
AJo+

UTG+2, LJ

Aggressive/solid Table:
77+
A9s+ KJs+ QJs+
AJo+
KQo+

Passive/rec Table:
22+
A8s+ KTs+ QTs+ JTs+
KJo+
ATo+

HJ/CO
Aggressive/Solid Table:
22+
A5s+ K9s+ J9s+ Q9s+ 87S+
QJo+ KJo+ A9o+

Passive/Rec table
22+
A2s+ J8s+ Q8s+ K8s+ 65s+
JTo+, QTo+ KTo+ A7o+

In the CO against an open from UTG+2 my range looks something like:

Call: 66-88. ATs, AQo. JTs-KQs
Sometimes call sometimes raise: 99/TT/AJs
Usually raise or fold, sometimes call: A2-A5s, 56-T9s
Usually raise sometimes flat: JJ, AQs, AKo
Almost always raising: AKs, QQ+

Maybe call: 22-55, QTs, KTs, A9s, J9s, AJo, KQo
Usually fold, sometimes raise: 54s, T8s, 97s

The what to do vs RFI depends a lot on table dynamics and something I have been doing a lot lately is attacking people who vary their preflop sizings based on hand strength.
Are you talking about 10 handed tables? Where an open to 4x from EP gets mostly called by multiple opponents?

I think it`s best to only play AK and TT+ from EP (first three positions). Playing flushdraws OOP is just a headache and flopping sets OOP does not generate enough money to compensate for all those spots where we lose small pots.

From MP (unopend or with a limp in front) I would go like

77+
AJs+
AQo+

From Co
55+
KQs
ATs+
AJo+

From Btn
22+
KQo
QJs+
ATo+

And be super nitty from the blinds .. Being aggressive in the pots you are in will give you an image that will get you action. This seems super nitty, but it will print ...
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I think it`s best to only play AK and TT+ from EP (first three positions).
That's a ridiculously nitty/bad range even from UTG, let alone the third position. @OP also on 9-10 handed tables don't be afraid to open to $25 from the first two positions. I play a 5/5 where the standard open is $30 and stack depth is usually not very deep at all.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:00 PM   #438
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That's a ridiculously nitty/bad range even from UTG, let alone the third position. @OP also on 9-10 handed tables don't be afraid to open to $25 from the first two positions. I play a 5/5 where the standard open is $30 and stack depth is usually not very deep at all.
Opening to nitty from EP is at worst a minor leak. Opening to loose from EP is a major leak. I strongly suggest to nit it up from UTG and from the blinds, because playing to many hands from those positions is one of the most obvious leaks that a lot of "thinking players" have. Your major edge on the field is to avoid ****ty spots and print money with range advantages. Opening 77,KQ or AJ from UTG is getting you into ****ty spots and will most likely not show a profit at all.

Opening big (>4x) makes being super nitty even better for obvious reasons.
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Are you talking about 10 handed tables? Where an open to 4x from EP gets mostly called by multiple opponents?

I think it`s best to only play AK and TT+ from EP (first three positions). Playing flushdraws OOP is just a headache and flopping sets OOP does not generate enough money to compensate for all those spots where we lose small pots.

From MP (unopend or with a limp in front) I would go like

77+
AJs+
AQo+

From Co
55+
KQs
ATs+
AJo+

From Btn
22+
KQo
QJs+
ATo+

And be super nitty from the blinds .. Being aggressive in the pots you are in will give you an image that will get you action. This seems super nitty, but it will print ...
My games are 9 handed. Yea my range from the blinds is basically my UTG+1 range.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:09 PM   #440
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How do you adjust when the table knows that you're the tightest player at the table and stops giving you action?
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Cool ranges. I think on the passive/rec tables you can get away with limping 22-88 even.
Yea, it's going to depend a lot on the table for those hands. Unfortunately a lot of 1/2 tables at Hammond play short so it's just not worth it.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:37 PM   #442
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How do you adjust when the table knows that you're the tightest player at the table and stops giving you action?
This doesn’t happen tho. It brings villains physical pain to fold.

Probono with good advice itt.
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H1: Gotta fold right?

UTG limp, I make it $15 with AsAd, button calls, limper calls.

Flop 2c4d5c.

Pot: $44.

Check, Hero bets $30, button calls UTG folds.

Pot:$104.

Turn: 9s.

Hero bets $60 call.

Pot: $220

River is the 3c.

Hero checks, villain shoves for $125.

So I beat two pairs and sets he is turning into a bluff, I chop with an A and I lose to straights and flushes.

I'm new to table. All I know is villain is a MAWG with a decent size stack. He also min 3 bet then folded in a hand where one guy had AA and another guy had KK

So if he has ATo+ and every suited ace without clubs as a shove and then he has all the flushes I think he has, 66, 56s, and 76s then I only have 23% equity. I think it's generous to say he somehow shows up with all those suited aces as bluffs.

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This doesn’t happen tho. It brings villains physical pain to fold.

Probono with good advice itt.
I asked because it has actually happened to me my last two sessions. It doesn't happen until I'm up two to three hundred but it will happen. Players will start auto folding to your 3 bets showing pocket jacks face up. I'm not sure how to adjust, that's why I was asking.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:53 PM   #445
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Ok. For a real answer you are probably experiencing a bit of bad variance or whatever. I get called a nit all the time (which is funny since my 3b% is like 4x anyone else’s), but they still don’t fold. Remember people thinking you are nitty =/= them folding.

I was getting needled super hard a few months ago when I was crazy card dead. I’m talking like not a single vpip in 3 hours and whole table is needling.

Guy UTG opens blind 5x, mp 3bets, I cold 4b, TWO people cold call behind me, and we take a flop 5 ways. Lol

Stuff like this is why you never really need to worry about “opening up your game” below 5/10.

That said, if you still want to open up your game:

If you are at a particularly passive table, you can 3b more linear. When you start 3betting hands like 99 or QJs as a standard, people notice bc you have a particularly high 3b%. To do this though you need to know what you’re doing. Don’t 3b UTG opens, don’t cbet flops huge, always have good position, etc.
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Size up turn way bigger. Try to have 3 turn sizings, .75x/1.5x/2x

Or maybe .75/1/1.5

None of this 60% stuff tho
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Not the start I was envisioning.

H2: young guy +2 limps. I'm new to table still. My impression is he knows what he's doing, just a guy feeling.

Hero opens to $12 in the HJ Witt AhQsand CO and limper caller.

Flop 5s7c9s.

Ccc.

Turn: Qc

+2 checks, I bet $20, CO folds and now villain check raises to $60 and I call.

River is an offsuit 5.

Villain bets $75, I have about $90 left.

I call.

Villain shows 99.

I don't usually like bluff catching against a population that doesn't bluff enough but I felt like this line just is so rarely value.
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Size up turn way bigger. Try to have 3 turn sizings, .75x/1.5x/2x

Or maybe .75/1/1.5

None of this 60% stuff tho
Turn sizing was objectively bad, I wasn't thinking clearly, had basically just sat down, maybe I should do some mental warming up before I start.

Any thoughts on river?
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H1: Gotta fold right?

UTG limp, I make it $15 with AsAd, button calls, limper calls.

Flop 2c4d5c.

Pot: $44.

Check, Hero bets $30, button calls UTG folds.

Pot:$104.

Turn: 9s.

Hero bets $60 call.

Pot: $220

River is the 3c.

Hero checks, villain shoves for $125.

So I beat two pairs and sets he is turning into a bluff, I chop with an A and I lose to straights and flushes.

I'm new to table. All I know is villain is a MAWG with a decent size stack. He also min 3 bet then folded in a hand where one guy had AA and another guy had KK

So if he has ATo+ and every suited ace without clubs as a shove and then he has all the flushes I think he has, 66, 56s, and 76s then I only have 23% equity. I think it's generous to say he somehow shows up with all those suited aces as bluffs.
As played I like a fold.

Options you have imo:

Flop: c/r or bet .. I like the bet and the sizing.

turn: 185$ back and 105 in the Pot? I don`t hate a check (to CRAI and Pot control if checked through) and a shove as well. Betting here is of course not that bad.

River: Could go either way. It`s super close given the price, but your read makes me want to fold. Kind of an ugly spot, but I see arguments for every option (c/f, c/c, shove) ..
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Not the start I was envisioning.

H2: young guy +2 limps. I'm new to table still. My impression is he knows what he's doing, just a guy feeling.

Hero opens to $12 in the HJ Witt AhQsand CO and limper caller.

Flop 5s7c9s.

Ccc.

Turn: Qc

+2 checks, I bet $20, CO folds and now villain check raises to $60 and I call.

River is an offsuit 5.

Villain bets $75, I have about $90 left.

I call.

Villain shows 99.

I don't usually like bluff catching against a population that doesn't bluff enough but I felt like this line just is so rarely value.
bet/fold turn ..

You should work the bet/fold into your game and use it to value bet thin (e.g. JT on AJT25) and to get value from worse on tricky boards. This is the perfect board to b/f because a raise by a hand that AQ is ahead of is super unlikely on this board.
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