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Old 08-26-2017, 03:32 PM   #1
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Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Typo in the title so I'm already off to a good start.

About me:

I'm a late 20's male who is taking a break from my career in law to chase a dream. I love poker, I love the type of logical and analytical thinking it requires, and I'll regret never giving this a shot.

Goal: Effective 08/25/17-01/01/18

-Play 40-50 hours per week. Maybe more if I can resolve my commuting situation.
-Study 7 hours per week
-Make 12-15k playing 1/2 and 1/3
-Be ready to move up to 2/5 by Janurary.

Poker Background:

I have been playing since I was around 10 but never seriously.

Played with friends for small stakes and online for play money until I turned 18 and sold play chips on eBay (yea people paid for that lol). I read poker books because I have always found the game interesting.

Played 5-10 times a year live since turning 18. I've been a small winner from the moment I started playing live but obviously over a small sample.

Have played about 150k hands of 5-10NL online where I'm a modest winner. I would guess I'm a small winner at 25 NL at this point but don't have the sample.

Started taking the game more seriously in Janurary. I've been playing part time and I'm averaging 9 BB/hour over about 500 hours this year.

Where I will play:

So unfortunately until my wife finishes her degree, my options aren't great

Rockford Charitable Games:
-65-75 min commute.
-the 1/2 is 400 max buy in
-maybe a little tougher than a typical 1/2 lineup but not much.

Horshoe Hammond Indiana
-90 minute commute
-200 max buy in 1/2
-Nitty shortstacked day games. Easy to beat but hourly won't be amazing.
-Really good night/weekend games.

Potowatomi Milwaukee:
-2 hour commute
-1/3 300 max buy.
-More money on the table than Hammond
-Same quality games.

I'll probably be doing a cheap air bnb 2-3 nights a week near Hammond or Potowatomi in order to be able to get in the hours I need. I'll give some consideration to doing a one month rental if I feel it's necessary and the wife is amenable.

This thread:

Will be posting updates after each session on how I did and a couple of interesting or fun hands.
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:05 PM   #2
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Day 1: 10 hours played up 590 playing 1/3

Started the day on a super heater and got paid off when I hit my hands. At my apex I was up 820 after 3 hours. Took a couple of bad beats including hand 2 and took a break. Came back at night and got a dream table but couldn't capitalize.


Hand 1: Standard limp reraise with pocket 9's. Night session.

Game is outrageously good because of two whales one of which is tilted and raising ATC and stacking off with nothing.


Hero limps 99 UTG. one other limp. Tilted whale makes it 20 from the button which he would do every time regardless of his cards. BB flats. Hero limp reraises to 100. Only tilted whale calls.

Flop: J57 r. Hero insta jams for villain's last 100 villain calls and hero wins.

Obviously not a line I would ever take with 99 under normal circumstances but knowing villain will open ATC but hasn't been 3 betting I thought this would be high variance but very profitable.

Hand 2: Top two no good? Early session.

Hero opens AdQh from UTG+1. Button and a very loose BB player call.

Flop AhQs9s.

Hero pots the flop and loose BB calls.

Turn: 7c.

Hero bets just under pot and he calls beating me to the middle.

River 4s completing the flush.

Villain donks for about 40 percent pot. He's very relaxed and talking to his neighbor.

Hero folds. I want to see his hand so I tell him if he bluffed me with red KJ it was a great play. Villain shows the As. he could've been turning top pair into a bluff with the nut flush blocker but I don't think so. For whatever it's worth he later told me he had the flush and thought he was ahead the whole hand.

Hand 3: standard cooler. Night session.

Straddle. Drunk whale 1 limps, call, tilted whale makes it 20, call,
Hero looks down at AK in the BB and makes it 120. Drunk whale who limped now calls and tilted whale called for basically his whole stack.

Flop:AQQr.

Pot:380

Hero checks and drunk whale jams for 210. Hero calls and drunk whale shows QJo.

A couple hands later I also got it in pre with AK vs the tilted whale but he has 88 and I lost.

I ended up finishing down $75 or so for the night session which was pretty frustrating given how good the game was. Sometimes I wonder if I should try to minimize variance for the sake of my sanity but it feels so irrational to not take the most profitable line.

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Old 08-26-2017, 05:02 PM   #3
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Good luck on the journey. I frequent GVC, Poto, Hammond every so often. From what I have heard RCG are the softest games of the bunch.
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:46 PM   #4
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Good luck on the journey. I frequent GVC, Poto, Hammond every so often. From what I have heard RCG are the softest games of the bunch.
Thanks for the tip about RCG. GVC is only 50 minutes from me but the rake is kinda high (I think it's 7+1 right?) I've done their 1/2 and 2/5 twice and found it decently soft. I have some concentration issues though and the no phones or headphones at the table for a long session is rough for me.

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Old 08-26-2017, 10:00 PM   #5
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Day 2: 08/26
1/3: 7 hours so far, up 625 at Potowatomi.

Well this challenge is off to a good start. Day isn't done but I'm really sleep deprived so I'm going into full old man coffee for the rest of the session. Was card dead all session but got one spewy bluff through and then got PAID when I hit top set.

Hand 1: Spew?

In my defense, I typically don't use low equity bluffs. I also had a super nitty image from being card dead and I had a decent read on how villain was playing. He doesn't like to fold but isn't a massive station. I could also be in full on sleep deprivation mode and this is indefensible.

Villain limps, bad nit limps, hero raises to 15 with Ah3h on the button. nitty BB calls, main villain calls other limper folds.

Flop: Qs 9s 6s.

BB checks, villain checks, I would expect him to bet any Q here and check call with a spade. This is usually a check give up spot for me but I continued for 25. Villain thinks for a while and calls.

Turn:6h.

Villain checks. I think this is a good card for me to continue on because if he has a naked spade draw he might be less likely to continue on a paired board. Hero bets 50 and villain folds.

Hand 2: Getting paid with top set.

Hero is the effective stack with 400 or so. Probably has a nitty image but did show the bluff from hand 1.
V1 is tilted from getting sucked out on repeatedly by V2
V2 is a loose passive rec player who thinks V1's tilt is hillarious.

V1 opens for 15UTG. I don't think his range is super wide even though he's tilted. V2 flats which he would do with a wide range to play with V1. I opt to flat JcJd in the BB.

Flop: Jh 5c 7c.

I decide to check since I think V1 is strong and will continue with most of his range. V1 bets 35, V2 calls, hero raises to 135 and they both call.

Turn: 8d.

Not ideal but could be worse. Hero jams for about 220 and v1 calls. V2 folded. V2 later said he had AJ. V1 says he had QQ

River offsuit deuce. Hero wins.

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Old 08-27-2017, 01:18 AM   #6
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Good luck man, i play mostly at HHorse and MajestST the variance is night games is lucrative but wild, what's your bankroll?
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Old 08-27-2017, 01:44 AM   #7
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Good luck man, i play mostly at HHorse and MajestST the variance is night games is lucrative but wild, what's your bankroll?
Yea night games can definitely be a little swingy. Haven't played at Majestic yet, do you like it?

I don't really have a set bankroll, I guess I would be uncomfortable with losing more than 10k right now.
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Old 08-27-2017, 03:31 PM   #8
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Day 3 was pretty crap but at least I knew my limits. Results: 2 hours played down 350 My accommodations for this trip were booked last minute so I stayed at a ****ty noisy place so I've been playing all week on no sleep. I have a good place to stay for my next trip fortunately.

Got kind of tilted off this hand. Straddle, maniac opens for 25, hero flats with KK. Flop QJ8. Villain pots it hero calls. Turn 9. Villain goes all in for pot and hero calls. Villain shows TT. River is a K giving him a straight. Definitely not my standard line with KK but I wanted to give villain a chance to blast off with ATC.

Lost another hand after that for about $90 and just left. I played over 40 hours this week so I'm cool just taking today easy and doing some studying.

Challenge Results 3 days in:

20 hours played.
$845 profit.
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Old 08-27-2017, 03:40 PM   #9
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

$42+/hr is very solid. What do you expect it will level off to or will you be happy with at after 1000hrs of play?
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Old 08-27-2017, 04:43 PM   #10
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$42+/hr is very solid. What do you expect it will level off to or will you be happy with at after 1000hrs of play?
I expect it to level off. Day 1/2 were Friday and Saturday games so they were pretty juicy. I'd like to make 10 BB/hour but I know that's not easy to obtain.

In terms of raw dollars, 43 an hour is over 80k a year. I probably won't have kids so I'd be happy with 80k.
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Old 08-28-2017, 03:45 PM   #11
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Day: 4

I played Wednesday-Sunday last week so taking the next few days off. Might do some studying and online play. Maybe get back into golf. I thought about playing poker today but I'm just too worn down after playing on so many days without sleep. I really need to use this time off to work on my mental game and try to learn not to be so stressed when I play. I get too concerned about losing what I have already won when I'm ahead. Life is just one long cash sesssion anyway, it shouldn't matter if I'm up or down on a given day since that's just an arbitrary metric.

I got some free hotel days so from Thursday-Monday this week I'll be staying in Milwaukee and hoping to get in some serious hours because after that I have a wedding to go to on the East Coast next week and an anniversary weekend with the wife the week after.

I realized I butchered the band history on the KK hand, doesn't really matter since it's not worth one breaking down. Flop was actually Q95. Turn was a J. River K.
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:44 PM   #12
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

Good luck!

I play at Potow on a semi-regular basis. If you are doing this as your full time job, I would probably recommend having a little more than $12-15k as a roll for the $2/5 game. Definitely can take some shots when the game is good, but there can be some high variance. There are 2-3 "VIPs" that play a very LAG style and are always looking to start a straddle, etc.

I definitely think you can make $12-15k between now and the end of the year. I did a similar challenge for myself at the start of the year and while I ran pretty hot, I think ~10BB/hr is achievable at the $1/3 games. Unfortunately the bad beat just hit this week, so the games will be slightly tougher. When the bad beat gets over $300k you definitely get people that literally show up just trying to hit and are pretty terrible.
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Old 08-31-2017, 05:47 PM   #13
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Thanks for the tips Philfan, glad to hear you think the game is pretty good since I think I'm going to be playing a lot at Potowatomi for the rest of the year. I'll start taking shots at 2/5 in January or when I feel I'm ready and if it goes poorly I can always move down. My roll should be bigger by then too.

Days 5-6 off. Probably should have studied one of those days but oh well. Got a big week coming up.

Day 7: Got to Milwaukee at around 3:00 today and plan on staying until around 3:00 on Tuesday. Goal is to get in at least 60 hours. My other goal is to spend more time focusing on watching others play when I'm not in the hand.

Got myself into a tough spot today and guessed wrong so down about 100 to start the day.

Hand 1:Pocket Jacks Are Easy To Play

Hero opens JJ in the HJ to 12 Button and BB calls. Button is slightly tilted but not horribly tilted. He's about a 50 year old white guy balding with glasses.

Flop: T84r. Hero bets 25 button calls BB folds.

Turn:5.
Pot: 80
Hero bets 45 and villain jams for 125 total. I thought his raise was pretty strong but given that I think most of his value raises flop I felt like I had to call given the amount of draws.

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Old 09-01-2017, 01:17 AM   #14
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Day 7 results: 8 hours played down 500. Ran absolutely awful. Had JJ-KK a ton and they wouldn't hold up. Flopped really poorly all night.

Results so far. 28 hours played, up 345.
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Old 09-01-2017, 03:49 PM   #15
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Day 8: well yesterday was the second worst day I've had of live poker. I think I played fine, I may have let my range get a little too wide when I got down but there were some fish boardering on whales at the table so I don't think it was awful even if if some of the preflop opens or calls were marginal.

The good news is that in the past I've let losing get to me a lot more and I dealt with it well last night. Hopefully I run a little better today.

Going to write down more of the hands I play today and try to review them later. Should help me improve and help with confidence.
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:32 PM   #16
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Day 8:

Going really well 6 hours in. Up 500 so far. Had kind of a tight image so played a set in a bit of a weird way.

EP limps with a fairly wide range. He's a bad rec player but I don't have a great read on his style, he just does weird stuff like betting middle pair multiway and playing too wide a range. I make it 15 from the CO with 77. He calls.

Flop A78 r. He checks, i check it back. I don't think he expects me to check an ace too often here so I expect him to bet a wide range on the turn.

Turn 8. Brings bd flush draw.

He bets 20. I consider raising but if he has an 8 I can raise river. I also think he would bet larger with an 8 here so I don't think he has much. I call.

River: offsuit 3.

He checks, I bet pot and he calls with 99.

So it ended up working out but I'm not sure if I love the line here. Definitely not standard but in this spot I think it had merit.
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Old 09-02-2017, 02:57 AM   #17
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Day 8 final results: 10 hours played, up 705
Challenge results:38 hours played up 1050.

Really pumped about today coming off my second worst session of the year. Coping with bad sessions and variance is something I will have to continue to work on but I kept a level head and had a great day 8.

I think I played solid but I got a little gun shy and didn't pull the trigger on two bluffs in good spots.

Got myself into one tricky spot with whiffed AK OOP but the second barrel took down the pot. Would've got really dicey if he called turn. I'm not going to repost it here, but I posted it in the LLSNL forum.
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:21 AM   #18
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Re: Talking my shot at becoming a live pro.

gl

I guess you are sorta 'talking' your shot hopefully you can become a great reg!
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Old 09-02-2017, 07:46 PM   #19
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Thanks Mr. Sooted.

Day 9: not a great start to the day, currently down about 150. Lost at least my first 10 hands then got into a really weird spot with QQ:https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...19/?highlight=

Still plenty of poker left to play. Just have to be patient and stay positive.
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:50 PM   #20
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Get your rally caps going. Went down 250 in the first 1.5 hours but I'm on an upswing. Up about 200 now. I tabled changed to a deep stacked table and got the action I was looking for. When I sat down a rec player had about a 2k stack. Apparently he has been here for 30 hours straight. He's an above average 1/3 player but definitely not good and plays way way too loose and probably a tad too aggressive. He's also the type who randomly spews and just can't help himself. Got into three interesting pots with him.

Hand1: Donking tens into a limp reraise. Standard right

Villain had been giving my bets and raises a lot of respect post flop including folding flopped top pair to a min raise (JT on a T54 board).

Bunch of limps and villain limps. Hero makes it 22 with TT in the BB villain raises to 60. Hero calls.

Flop: K96 two tone.

Pot:120

Hero donks for 55 and villain folds AQ face up. Against a better player this bet might be a disaster but given that even his bluffs were going to have a lot of equity and isn't the type to play passively I didn't want to just check call, too much variance and tough to play. I know this is kind of feeler/protection bet is frowned upon for being a game theory disaster where you fold out worse and get called by better but I thought it was warranted here.



Hand 2: Not anything special but I hate these kind of spots.

villain limps the CO sb calls hero checks Ah7c.

Flop:5d7d5c.

Check check villain bets 13. I already know if I just call this hand is going to get dicey but **** it. I call.

Pot:27

Turn:3s.

Villain bets 30 hero calls.

Pot:87.

Villain bets 80 in the dark.

River: 2h.

Hero sigh calls and beats a busted draw.
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Old 09-03-2017, 04:56 AM   #21
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Day 9 results: 9.5 hours played, up 60 dollars. Really juicy table helped me get out of a -250 hole but was really card dead all session. My big hands were A7 where I had one pair and TT on a king high board lol. I definitely made some mistakes but didn't get put in too many tough spots this session.

Challenge results: 47.5 hours up 1110. All 1/3 so far so averaging 7.9 bb/hour.

The hourly has been fine but I'm going to have to step it up with the hours played. I think exercise and eating better are going to be key going forward to maintaining focus.
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:28 PM   #22
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Day 10: No money in live poker it's too solid. Hand 1: sick soul read by villain.

Hero opens to 12 with AQ at a tight table from EP. Only BB calls.

Flop QK3

Hero sits still, it's not hero's turn to act and he has not reached for chips. Villain snap folds.

I'm joking but this table is so tight and short stacked idk if the rake is beatable here today for someone like me. Slight exaggeration but definitely won't be able to make a ton without run good. Maybe I can start opening smaller and widen my range.

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Old 09-03-2017, 09:10 PM   #23
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Really bad start to the day, down 250. Ran AQ into 76 on a A6669 board which cost me about 100. Lost another pot when I made it 25 on the button with TJs over 5 limps. One of them limp jammed for 60 with 66 which I called and lost the flip. Plenty of pocket pairs including QQ but no sets and bad boards.
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Old 09-04-2017, 01:56 AM   #24
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Day 10 results: 8 hours played, up 411. I didn't repeat my mistake yesterday of playing too money scared. I pulled the trigger on a triple barrel and got it through, I squeezed and 3 bet light in two spots, and think I played solid. I also just ran really well to be able to come back from the 300 dollar hole I dug to start the day. I also flopped quad aces with pocket aces at one point, didn't win a ton with it but that's still just a lot of fun.

Challenge results: 55.5 hours, up 1521 playing 1/3 only so far. I think I've run a tad above expectation so far but nothing too wild.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:48 AM   #25
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Day 11: 12.5 hours played, up 101.
Challenge results: 68 hours played up 1622

Man poker is a brutal game mentally, today was a tough day. Wasn't really feeling it going into today and got immediately coolered AK vs AA when I 3 bet a guy who was somewhat short and he jammed. Then got coolered with AQ vs A9 on a KQ9A9 board when for some reason he decided to put in a turn raise...

And while I played ok, I made way way too many mistakes. Mostly just small leaks, but there were a few errors where I got a tad too aggressive. Probably cost myself 150 in errors I could have avoided but that's part of the learning process.
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