Didnt he claim to have a large downswing like 4 pages back that seems to be *filenotfound* on that graph?

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It sounds obvious to most people, and real obvious to people like me who have taken a bunch of stats courses and retained 15% of what I learned, but the x and y values should be based on the inputs. There are a few tracking programs that don't do this and make every graph look nearly identical.

Right, its all going to depend on the number of inputs (sessions). Here's 500. Pretty brutal downswing at 1900 and 2400 hours but I weathered the storm!

I love how you use the word "claim" as if Im lying about something. I didnt have a large downswing. I had a long break even streak that started with a fairly sudden downswing which was large for me. You can see it on both sides of the 2500 hour area.

The comparisons between OP and the Trooper are obvious: similar poker experience, age, stakes, ego, lifestyle, and unorthodox style of play. Does he win as much as the Trooper though? That's a question Mike's fans would love to get to the bottom of.

Yeah beating 1/2 after 15 years of poker is incredibly impressive. OP is the Ben Lamb of Florida poker.

Yeah, I'm just barely squeaking by beating 1/2.

$27/hr during 9-5 weekdays
$46/hr evenings and weekends

Not everyone gives a **** about playing high stakes poker and even if I did, there's no games above 2/5 around me that aren't private games or games I would have to search out and show up at specific times for. I'm having fun and making plenty of money doing what Im doing.

Stupid post. Obviously this is impossible if you're playing LLSNL.

Gsteepergiraffe=morecrushing,imoG

Im going to kill this thread now since its pretty much served its purpose which was to show that there is more than 1 way to win at poker. Ive posted many many HHs. People hate my lines but I continue to win using these lines and I see no reason to change now. Ive been doing well for over 3000 hours now.

I used to play nothing but ABC poker but ABC poker is very easy to beat for a good player. As time went by I realized there were certain players that I hated having at my table because I could never put them on a hand and they wanted to play big pots seemingly randomly. So I slowly started adding in moves that I knew would throw me off if someone used them against me. Now Im the guy who gets called a big bet called by 3rd pair because my line made no sense. Sometimes I screw myself. Sometimes I make more money in the hand than I would otherwise. I think overall, I make more money than playing ABC.

Im only making this post because I know lots of people think that when a thread like this dies and the OP stops posting, that he mustve gone busto or whatever. I assure you Im not busto or anything even close to it.

Since I got back from vacation in Sept....

1/2 weekdays daytime
$29/hr

1/2 weeknights/weekends
$48/hr

2/5 weekdays/daytime
$31/hr

2/5 weeknights/weekend
$60/hr

Good luck to everyone.

RIP

damn i actually enjoyed this thread

gl michael starr

You enjoyed it like people like watching a hockey game hoping a fight breaks out, Im sure.

eh, i mean sure, at times, but i mostly just really enjoy reading live PG&Cs and HHs.

i don't agree with everything you do; i don't disagree with everything you do - either way i am able to find value from other winning players posting their thought processes/hands.

all of the trolling/ego-wars are pretty dumb; albeit very entertaining at times as well.

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Good luck Mike!

GcluelessPG&CthreadnoobG

Thanks for sharing, Mike. I found many of your ideas very helpful for my own game and will miss the thread greatly. Best of luck to you.

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Ill give an example of what has gotten me to the point of not wanting to continue this thread. Here's a hand I played yesterday.

I open to $20 in MP with AsKd. Cutoff, button and BB call.
Flop ($80) Ad 7d 4s. BB checks. Just about everyone will bet here. I have a strong hand and I need to make FDs and hands like 76 pay to draw. That is obvious. Anyone who has played poker longer than a few minutes knows that. I know.

Betting something like $55-$60 is totally standard. I would do that most of the time. But heres something to think about. These are all pretty good players in the hand. They all know that if I bet I have an ace. Im not going to bet this flop into 3 players without an ace or a set. I wont get called by much of anything other than a flush draw or an ace.

I think there is merit in checking here occasionally to let someone else bet a worse hand or catch a 2nd best hand on the turn. So I checked and it checked thru. Most people will say this is a disaster. No, its not a disaster. Another diamond on the turn will suck, but its not a disaster especially when I have the Kd.

Turn ($80) 2d. OK.... not my favorite card. BB leads $40. I call and we go HU.

River ($160) 6c. BB bets $60 again. I call and beat 99.

So in this particular hand I made an extra $100 than I wouldve if I had bet the flop. I seriously doubt the BB wouldve called with 99 knowing Im not betting the flop into 3 people without an ace. Obviously there are other scenarios where checking this flop costs me money depending on what the other players have, but by playing non ABC like this I think I make more money long term and I make my range a lot harder to read.

If I posted this HH, all I would hear is "OMG, you completely misplayed that hand. How do you win money? You're just a fish on a heater". I didnt misplay the hand. I intentionally played the hand a different way (knowning what the normal ABC way is) to try to confuse people and possibly gain more EV long term. Whether or not I actually make more money playing this way, who knows? But I do know that I have a consistent track record of winning over a large sample and reading the constant trolling, berating and mocking is a waste on mine and everyone elses times.

Mike, i want to let you kill your thread in peace but thats a bread and butter example of what leads to trolling. You are so defensive, you have your shield set to 110% man and dont let anything in. You also start attacking readers before anything has even been said lol.

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Checking that flop is fine.

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I'm not even sure if the lines you take are actually unorthodox.

That was the label that someone put on my HHs when I used to post in the strat forum. I didn't start using that word myself. They dont seem unorthodox to me at all. Non ABC for sure though.

+1 to Ava Mike.

I enjoy this thread though I confess partially because it devolves into a ****show once a month or so. I think you are too quick to dismiss others and tout your win-rate as support for whatever line you post. That seems awfully silly and doesn't lead to much growth as a player. If you don't care about that then that's fine. I look back on hands I posted a mere 3 or 4 years ago and I cringe. I assume most players do.

Just because a line in a hand or a specific spot works doesn't mean that should be a default line. Just because a default line generally works doesn't mean you can try other lines in the correct circumstances.

I just wouldn't take every post that is not favorable to you as a slam or derogatory. It's just poker at the end of the day.

Honestly, I dont try to dismiss other people except when they tell me my lines suck with no explanation of what they think is wrong. There are plenty of different lines that will work in the same spot against different people and against different ranges. Some people don't seem to understand that.

I dont tout my win rate as a defense to any specific hand. I screw up plenty of hands. I take strange lines sometimes that cost me money. I win extra money sometimes by taking a weird line. But overall I believe that my body of work that includes all of my hands is very good. So when the haters constantly rip my HHs apart like Im an idiot, and dont listen to anything other than what they want to hear, my response is "take a look at my win rate. It should tell you that I know what Im doing overall. Maybe you should open your mind"

If Im watching a hand take place and a guy that I know is a crusher takes a line that I would never take, Im going to pay extra attention and try to figure out why he did it or why it works and decide if I should incorporate it into my game.

If there's a guy I play with regularly and I know is a losing player and he takes a line that I think is ridiculous, Im not going to try to incorporate that into my game.

That's where the touting of the win rate comes in. Are you going to take cooking advice from Gorden Ramsey or me? Gorden Ramsey has an awesome "win rate" that gives him credibility. If I tell you to cook a steak a certain way that you wouldnt normally cook it, youre going to tune me out. Gorden Ramsey could tell you the same thing and you would be cooking the steak that way 4 hours later. There's no reason to listen to a random person on this forum unless you believe them to be a good player since most players, even the ones here, are bad players.

In other words, Im not trying to brag or anything like that by showing my win rate. Im just trying to show some context that maybe my overall game really does work, when being told that I suck. Obviously the context of a winning player means nothing to most of these haters since they remain closed minded no matter what I say.