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Old 04-18-2020, 04:29 PM   #401
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Great stuff and great results, all the best.
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Old 05-05-2020, 04:22 AM   #402
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Don't know Fiona Apple at all, but it did (and your description of likes) remind of Soley, who is deeply melancholic and tortured (at least in her music/public persona) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLedNmfNu9s
Thanks for the rec, I appreciate it. A lot of good music comes out of Iceland it seems. Sigur Ros is one of my favorite bands.

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Great stuff and great results, all the best.
Thanks!

5/5/2020

Life’s really great right now, I know that’s a horribly boring thing to say but I’ve never been better.

I did have to hold a mini intervention with myself with the help of my good friend, I just never could get my WR higher than a few bb/100 except for when I was in the softest games. All it took was a pretty clear look at how I approached my work to see why it has been that way, so I made a bunch of rules.

I always played as many tables as I could handle, even combining sites. I also Skyped while I played, browsed the web, answered the phone, etc. I never cared about session length if the games were good, quite the opposite actually, I felt extreme guilt leaving good games.

Well there are ALWAYS good games, especially now. And there’s just no excuse for the other stuff. On top of it, I could often be found complaining about running under ev. And that’s true, I’ve ran poorly over my time since coming back to the games last year. But I realized i made that my crutch to fall on while I was playing and approaching my job suboptimally. Furthermore I’m getting really good coaching every week and not taking enough time 1/2 tabling to implement everything, nor studying what I learn between classes.

So I really had a sit-down with myself, now there will be:

- no sessions over 2 hours without a break, no excuses
- no Skype, no phone, no web browsing, no discord
- 44 hours a week (8/7/6/0/7/7/7). No more under any circumstances.
- studying and class on the same day, with one more hourlong study session on Wednesday to keep things fresh.
- cutting down on pointless web browsing, actually I’m going to start checking 2+2 just once a week, I made a bet with my fiancťe.

Since I implemented this it’s gone awesome, it’s literally eye dropping and there’s no wonder why my redline was always going down as I was just constantly missing spots because of playing too many tables. My winrate will end up skyrocketing because of the changes, it feels pretty stupid to not have done it earlier but I’m a slow learner.

I’m also much happier, even though the games have been amazing, no matter how much I’m up or down I found myself in a sh*t mood for much of April.

Not much else to report, I love the isolation tbh and don’t miss people one bit. Ofc I found myself in the state that wants to open the quickest (GA) - I’m only here while my fiancťe finishes her school - but my bjj gym is opening May 18th, I definitely won’t be going then. Hopefully soon after as I miss it tons.

I’m still lifting every other day....today we planted an herb garden, my fiancťe LOVES creating vegan versions of everything and I just can’t be ****** arsed after years in kitchens but I do it with her anyways, it has created quite the funny dynamic bc she is like 100% gung ho and I act the part of grumpy old chef with a lot of technical know-how but no desire. I’ve been doing more drawings and my BIG news is that I got Ableton Suite, I’ve always wanted to really dive head first into making electronic music (I’m into Nicholas Jaar-esque techno, not standard club fare) so that’s been fun, it’s super complex but I’m picking it up quickly.

Opened up an HSA and a SEP IRA and put a little $ in, my fiancťe has been really pushing me to do that and it sure feels good as I came into sobriety with nothing. Been on a foreign film kick and going hiking tomorrow.

Hope everyone is doing well.

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Old 05-05-2020, 04:53 AM   #403
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Having a routine during the day while grinding was extremely beneficial for me as well. I am practicing this since few months by playing 3 sessions per day while using a timer and can see a very positive impact on my game as well as my life outside of poker.

I think in your case it will be a bit more difficult since you don't play zoom games and starting new reg tables and game selecting every 2h can be pretty tilting and time consuming. You need also a strong discipline to finish your session while having a huge whale on the table as an example. But as long as you concentrate yourself on the long term EV gained by this approach it should be doable.

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What's your background in music, Oladipo? I've always thought I'd really enjoy the process of creating music but sadly have taken zero steps in that direction. If Ableton Suite isn't completely newb-unfriendly maybe I'll check it out.

Do you like Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross film scores (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Social Network, Patriots Day), by chance? Check 'em out if you tend to like dark atmospheric instrumental music. Maybe a shot in the dark but our tastes seem so similar in everything else I might as well make the rec since I enjoy this music a lot.

Also, I'll put in another plug for The Handmaiden (Korean) while you're on a foreign film kick. It was available on prime as of a few weeks ago. Go in as cold as possible if you decide to check it out.

Also, though it's no doubt a great decision, sad we'll be seeing less of you on 2p2.
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:55 PM   #405
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Still haven't read everything from page 1. But it always gets me in a good mood hearing someone is making good **** happen in their lives. Life can be a real struggle at times and I don't think pure happiness should ever be an ultimate goal. Minimizing the stuff that gets you in a bad mood and maximizing the stuff that puts you in a good mood should be the goal. We can't control everything unfortunately so just have to learn to accept and deal with the bad stuff from time to time.

There are so many tiny things you can do to make your days so much better. Feels like people give up so easily nowadays and let their days go to waste.

I look forward to reading the whole thread.

Keep it up Oladipo
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Old 05-06-2020, 02:06 PM   #406
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Your posts are uplifting. Glad you’re doing well. I lol’ed at the grumpy chef part. Me being a farmer it reminds me so much of my girlfriend asking me to help her nurse back the dainty house plants she over and under waters all the time.
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Old 05-11-2020, 11:51 PM   #407
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I did have to hold a mini intervention with myself with the help of my good friend, I just never could get my WR higher than a few bb/100 except for when I was in the softest games. All it took was a pretty clear look at how I approached my work to see why it has been that way, so I made a bunch of rules.

I always played as many tables as I could handle, even combining sites. I also Skyped while I played, browsed the web, answered the phone, etc. I never cared about session length if the games were good, quite the opposite actually, I felt extreme guilt leaving good games.

Well there are ALWAYS good games, especially now. And thereís just no excuse for the other stuff. On top of it, I could often be found complaining about running under ev. And thatís true, Iíve ran poorly over my time since coming back to the games last year. But I realized i made that my crutch to fall on while I was playing and approaching my job suboptimally. Furthermore Iím getting really good coaching every week and not taking enough time 1/2 tabling to implement everything, nor studying what I learn between classes.

So I really had a sit-down with myself, now there will be:

- no sessions over 2 hours without a break, no excuses
- no Skype, no phone, no web browsing, no discord
- 44 hours a week (8/7/6/0/7/7/7). No more under any circumstances.
- studying and class on the same day, with one more hourlong study session on Wednesday to keep things fresh.
- cutting down on pointless web browsing, actually Iím going to start checking 2+2 just once a week, I made a bet with my fiancťe.

Since I implemented this itís gone awesome, itís literally eye dropping and thereís no wonder why my redline was always going down as I was just constantly missing spots because of playing too many tables. My winrate will end up skyrocketing because of the changes, it feels pretty stupid to not have done it earlier but Iím a slow learner.

Iím also much happier, even though the games have been amazing, no matter how much Iím up or down I found myself in a sh*t mood for much of April.

So much good in that quote. Cheers for always contributing something of value.

Good luck with the new approach, I've adopted a lot of what you wrote up there with a focus on quality over quantity.
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Old 05-12-2020, 01:53 AM   #408
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Hey man. I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread yet, but I just wanted to comment and say that I am also in sobriety. I'm fairly new to poker (around 6 months now), so I'm still focused on learning the fundamentals. I don't have goals of being a professional poker player, but I would like to be able to play micro / low stakes MTTs profitably. Anyways, I just wanted to reach out and say what's up. I will definitely be following your thread. Cheers from Texas!
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Having a routine during the day while grinding was extremely beneficial for me as well. I am practicing this since few months by playing 3 sessions per day while using a timer and can see a very positive impact on my game as well as my life outside of poker.

I think in your case it will be a bit more difficult since you don't play zoom games and starting new reg tables and game selecting every 2h can be pretty tilting and time consuming. You need also a strong discipline to finish your session while having a huge whale on the table as an example. But as long as you concentrate yourself on the long term EV gained by this approach it should be doable.

GL!
Nice man, yeah routine is super +ev for me too. I don't think I have the natural mindset for poker that a lot of gamer-type guys do (which also makes it more of a challenge for me, which I like), so I need these kinds of things.

And I play quite a bit of zoom, it's actually far and away my most profitable form of poker as I tend to just play pure strategy. It leads to less mental leaks, less exploitative-type thinking where I level myself into bad plays, less getting aggravated at one player, etc. I would very heavily consider moving out of the states if 1k zoom ran 24/7 on stars.

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What's your background in music, Oladipo? I've always thought I'd really enjoy the process of creating music but sadly have taken zero steps in that direction. If Ableton Suite isn't completely newb-unfriendly maybe I'll check it out.

Do you like Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross film scores (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Social Network, Patriots Day), by chance? Check 'em out if you tend to like dark atmospheric instrumental music. Maybe a shot in the dark but our tastes seem so similar in everything else I might as well make the rec since I enjoy this music a lot.

Also, I'll put in another plug for The Handmaiden (Korean) while you're on a foreign film kick. It was available on prime as of a few weeks ago. Go in as cold as possible if you decide to check it out.

Also, though it's no doubt a great decision, sad we'll be seeing less of you on 2p2.
Hey man, good to hear from you. I have no background in music actually! Haha. I've had to take a step back and I'm taking an online music theory course I found just in order to properly use the Ableton software.

And yes huge, huge fan of Reznor, nin one of all-time fav bands (altho I only really like the slow stuff), and TR one of the most insanely talented people of our time. Big fan of atmospheric music in general, and I like unconventional sounds a lot. Actually I used to go the same gym as Reznor in New Orleans, used to see him all the time. He is just a very normal-looking dude irl too, not even tats, which adds to his appeal for me. But yeah I'm very much a fan, he's been thru the sh*t and expresses what I used to feel pretty well.

Great Below might be my all-time favorite song; it definitely was when I was on drugs -

Fiancee and I started the Handmaiden and I passed out 15 mins in; familiar story around here. We'll give it anohter go soon, thx for the rec.


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Still haven't read everything from page 1. But it always gets me in a good mood hearing someone is making good **** happen in their lives. Life can be a real struggle at times and I don't think pure happiness should ever be an ultimate goal. Minimizing the stuff that gets you in a bad mood and maximizing the stuff that puts you in a good mood should be the goal. We can't control everything unfortunately so just have to learn to accept and deal with the bad stuff from time to time.

There are so many tiny things you can do to make your days so much better. Feels like people give up so easily nowadays and let their days go to waste.

I look forward to reading the whole thread.

Keep it up Oladipo
Thanks my brother! I like the positivity too.

I think life is rarely a struggle though. Mindset is everything.

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Your posts are uplifting. Glad you’re doing well. I lol’ed at the grumpy chef part. Me being a farmer it reminds me so much of my girlfriend asking me to help her nurse back the dainty house plants she over and under waters all the time.
thanks man, good to hear from you too. My gal definitely a serial under-waterer as well, we have a new herb garden that is a team effort to keep alive.

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So much good in that quote. Cheers for always contributing something of value.

Good luck with the new approach, I've adopted a lot of what you wrote up there with a focus on quality over quantity.
Cheers to you too man, hope everything is going well for you, never heard from you on whatasapp so i assume you got it all figured? I keep up with your thread and want to get into real estate at some point too, hope you're finding the corona grind well!

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Hey man. I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread yet, but I just wanted to comment and say that I am also in sobriety. I'm fairly new to poker (around 6 months now), so I'm still focused on learning the fundamentals. I don't have goals of being a professional poker player, but I would like to be able to play micro / low stakes MTTs profitably. Anyways, I just wanted to reach out and say what's up. I will definitely be following your thread. Cheers from Texas!
Hey, welcome! Good job on gettin sober. I've never been interested in the tourney grind but it's a relatively low bar to become competitive, best of luck to you. My brother went to school in Texas, used to visit him all the time there. Great women in Texas



I've been following my "rules" for a week now, it coincided with a heater so I'm certainly thankful for that, have had a few crazy heaters during the corona break so you won't hear me b*tching in 2020, that's for sure. I'm heatering everywhere but have mostly been playing on iggy since I implemented the changes. But I'm running well and way more importantly playing much better. I hate reading/talking strat in general so I'll spare you specifics, but my improved redline is indicative of both my coaching and of my playing less tables.

Although I'm obv running well it's quite embarrassing how much ev I was missing out on all this time by playing 8+ tables while multi-siting. It's just so much more profitable to game select better and reduce tables.

GL at the tables everybody.

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Old 05-12-2020, 04:19 AM   #410
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One thing I forgot to mention.

I don’t know how many of you are basketball fans, but anyone remotely interested in sports should watch the Bulls documentary.

Basketball was my passion until college, I actually made the all state team in high school. I realize now that it was my saving grace as I found solace, and confidence, through it.

Michael Jordan of course was my God, event though the Bulls weren’t my team, you couldn’t help but revere the best. And he’s the best, in any sport, to have ever lived.

But the fascination with MJ runs way deeper for me. His legendary, almost inhuman, competitiveness is what really interested me. The hunger, the work ethic. The chip on his shoulder he carried, and carries (this I identify with more than anything). How it propelled him to places no where else could go.

And I do believe that no human can motivate themselves more than he did because of his anger, of his desire to prove everyone wrong. Which makes for an endlessly fascinating psychological analysis, and the question: is the price he pays the only way to get to such great heights? And is it worth anything if you aren’t happy?

By every single account, MJ is an unhappy man. He lives to beat the odds, to beat you. Nothing else stokes his fire. The best long form article on him (a must-read), written in retirement, follows around an obviously unsettled man, who after achieving the highest heights possible still only hungers for more.

The documentary shows some of it, anyways, and I’m sure thankful we get one last look into the fire that consumed him during his playing days, and the incredible years of basketball that resulted because of it.
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not a basketball fan but loving the doc. gets a bit messy at times jumping around a bunch if youre not paying 100% attention to the timelines. Nice month

Whats your thoughts on the "he got banned and retired instead" theory? Documentary convinced me pretty good it isnt true but its going to be slightly biased and so many people believe he did get banned.
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:00 AM   #413
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I'ma big ball fan, played competitively for 10 years, been putting off the docco for a while now but probably should get round to it!

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While for the most part I can't argue with that, MJ is definitely in the discussion, but if you're familiar with the world of arm wrestling , there's a guy known as John Brzenk who was so dominant in that sport for so long that, on paper at least, he is the sickest athlete in the history of any sport , some metric I think had him at 8x more prolific to arm wrestling as Mohammad Ali was to boxing or somechit.

Can't stand the bulls but will give the docco a look prob tomorrow. I'm always super fascinated by the absolute elite superperformers and I recall Tony Robbins telling some crazy MJ anecdotes in his seminars.
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And I do believe that no human can motivate themselves more than he did because of his anger, of his desire to prove everyone wrong. Which makes for an endlessly fascinating psychological analysis, and the question: is the price he pays the only way to get to such great heights? And is it worth anything if you arenít happy?

By every single account, MJ is an unhappy man. He lives to beat the odds, to beat you. Nothing else stokes his fire. The best long form article on him (a must-read), written in retirement, follows around an obviously unsettled man, who after achieving the highest heights possible still only hungers for more.
Good questions for sure. Like you, I grew up idolizing MJ and played competitive beeball. Itís interesting to return to the question of his legacy later in life, now that Iím less enslaved to the godlike image I had of him when I was young. I think Iíve read the article you mention, and anyone wanting to see his pathological competitiveness on full display should watch his hall of fame induction speech.

The Last Dance verges on being an MJ puff piece, but I donít mind. Itís been lots of fun.

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While for the most part I can't argue with that, MJ is definitely in the discussion, but if you're familiar with the world of arm wrestling , there's a guy known as John Brzenk who was so dominant in that sport for so long that, on paper at least, he is the sickest athlete in the history of any sport , some metric I think had him at 8x more prolific to arm wrestling as Mohammad Ali was to boxing or somechit.
Have you seen Pulling John? Must watch if you like Brzenk
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Good questions for sure. Like you, I grew up idolizing MJ and played competitive beeball. Itís interesting to return to the question of his legacy later in life, now that Iím less enslaved to the godlike image I had of him when I was young.
An interesting conundrum indeed, and one that I spent some amount of time contemplating about, given my (our) competitive nature in the poker world and perhaps the intrinsic nature required to breakthrough, especially in 2020... Could it ever be possible to be the GOAT in any competitive field without sacrificing many facets of your life and with it, happiness... I do believe so, yet I have a tendency to be more nuanced in my beliefs as to agree with absolutes, so perhaps not...
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An interesting conundrum indeed, and one that I spent some amount of time contemplating about, given my (our) competitive nature in the poker world and perhaps the intrinsic nature required to breakthrough, especially in 2020... Could it ever be possible to be the GOAT in any competitive field without sacrificing many facets of your life and with it, happiness... I do believe so, yet I have a tendency to be more nuanced in my beliefs as to agree with absolutes, so perhaps not...
For sure possible to be very good and be pretty balanced but imo it's impossible to be one of the absolute best without sacrificing in other areas.
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Very high concentration of my favorite 2p2ers on this page, I love it. I too have been entranced by The Last Dance and have really enjoyed following it all again from a new perspective, different than my childhood one that idolized MJ. One of my most vivid memories from childhood is the crazy anticipation I felt in advance of MJ's first game back from (the first) retirement. I remember riding my bike a million times around the block the hour before the game started and feeling as full of adrenaline and excitement as I had ever felt in my life. I was devastated when he stunk it up the first half of the game and still remember that realization smacking me in the face very suddenly that even my hero was human. I remember being terrified that he was never going to be the same and I remember the relief I felt when he returned to form quickly.

Awesome that you checked out The Handmaiden, Oladipo, and I'm hoping you give it another shot. I don't want to spoil anything, but, even if you don't enjoy it early on, have patience with it and see what might develop..
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An interesting conundrum indeed, and one that I spent some amount of time contemplating about, given my (our) competitive nature in the poker world and perhaps the intrinsic nature required to breakthrough, especially in 2020... Could it ever be possible to be the GOAT in any competitive field without sacrificing many facets of your life and with it, happiness... I do believe so, yet I have a tendency to be more nuanced in my beliefs as to agree with absolutes, so perhaps not...
Correction : I meant to say that "I don't believe that one can be the GOAT in most - if not all - fields without sacrificing a signifacant chunk of happiness". I do believe that poker clearly demonstrates this, as the top dogs seem to suffer the most from their upmost dedication. And I do not mean those of us posting ITT clearing 6 digits annually. Nope. Moreso the Linus-Polks-Iveys of the world that sacrificed most of their lives at the sake of balance and happiness.
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Correction : I meant to say that "I don't believe that one can be the GOAT in most - if not all - fields without sacrificing a signifacant chunk of happiness". I do believe that poker clearly demonstrates this, as the top dogs seem to suffer the most from their upmost dedication. And I do not mean those of us posting ITT clearing 6 digits annually. Nope. Moreso the Linus-Polks-Iveys of the world that sacrificed most of their lives at the sake of balance and happiness.
Roger Federer seems like someone who did it (and this is entirely from the outside with all of these guys, nobody really knows any of them unless they know them personally). And in his case, a lot of credit has to go to his wife giving up her own professional career in service of their family planning and his career. But he has managed to stay free of scandal, always maintained his image and from what one can glean from interviews and so on, seems happy while having dominated as much or more than anyone in his prime and continuing well past his prime as a top contender. But as a rule, typically it requires fairly single minded focus to reach the highest heights and that simply doesn't leave room for balance.
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Roger Federer seems like someone who did it (and this is entirely from the outside with all of these guys, nobody really knows any of them unless they know them personally). And in his case, a lot of credit has to go to his wife giving up her own professional career in service of their family planning and his career. But he has managed to stay free of scandal, always maintained his image and from what one can glean from interviews and so on, seems happy while having dominated as much or more than anyone in his prime and continuing well past his prime as a top contender. But as a rule, typically it requires fairly single minded focus to reach the highest heights and that simply doesn't leave room for balance.
Nice example. I would be curious to have actual insight into his personal life and to assess if he is in fact a happy fellow...

I do believe that being determined af effects happiness levels strictly in (mostly) competitive fields, going beyond sports in domains such as being a broker, an aspiring CEO and whatnot, but would definitely not include being a zealous monk meditating 10 hours a day having a negative correlation with Happiness EV, or going out of your way in being the Dad (or Mom) in the world.
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One thing I forgot to mention.

I donít know how many of you are basketball fans, but anyone remotely interested in sports should watch the Bulls documentary.

Basketball was my passion until college, I actually made the all state team in high school. I realize now that it was my saving grace as I found solace, and confidence, through it.

Michael Jordan of course was my God, event though the Bulls werenít my team, you couldnít help but revere the best. And heís the best, in any sport, to have ever lived.

But the fascination with MJ runs way deeper for me. His legendary, almost inhuman, competitiveness is what really interested me. The hunger, the work ethic. The chip on his shoulder he carried, and carries (this I identify with more than anything). How it propelled him to places no where else could go.

And I do believe that no human can motivate themselves more than he did because of his anger, of his desire to prove everyone wrong. Which makes for an endlessly fascinating psychological analysis, and the question: is the price he pays the only way to get to such great heights? And is it worth anything if you arenít happy?

By every single account, MJ is an unhappy man. He lives to beat the odds, to beat you. Nothing else stokes his fire. The best long form article on him (a must-read), written in retirement, follows around an obviously unsettled man, who after achieving the highest heights possible still only hungers for more.

The documentary shows some of it, anyways, and Iím sure thankful we get one last look into the fire that consumed him during his playing days, and the incredible years of basketball that resulted because of it.

Any link to this article or title of it ?
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Growing up in chitown and experiencing being there at many games during that time was undescribable, let alone being able to watch every single game on tv! We were truly spoiled and having a parade in Grant park every summer was obv a frequent thing, woulda been 8 in a row had #23 not stepped away to play baseball. What was really frustrating was them breaking up the dynasty after the last title all because Reinsdorf went with Krause over MJ on keeping Phil. They obv earned the right to keep the team together but after they got crapped on and that BS happened MJ shoulda just stepped away for good and not donned a Wizards uni, stealing the ball and hitting the game winner in the finals was the perfect way for the best to ever do it(lecrybaby bron not even close) to go out! Sadly the 1 White Sox championship means more to Reinsdorf than all 6 bulls titles combined.

Op, glad you got back in the game(kustom, stinkweed) and are doing well, i wish you continued success!
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Old 05-19-2020, 05:18 PM   #424
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@Oladipo

Have you played 1k fast fold on ACR? Seems to be running fairly consistent now. I don’t know what stars is like as I’ve only played fast-fold on ignition and ACR, but I don’t like that ACR allows a time-bank for zoom.
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Update on the music frolic? Haha, I've been curious.

Also, did you end up checking out The Handmaiden? Or, going back to the movie thread quite awhile ago, It Follows, The Invitation, The Guest, or The Witch? The Witch is very polarizing, and I can't be confident anyone would like it, but I thought it was great.

Noticed your positive review of The Gift in the movies thread and will probably check that out.
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