Yeah my moto, started my journey with 2-wheeled vehiceles in Brazil 6 years ago with Honda XR from 1980, was a sick ride for about 2k dollars HIHI.

Back in Israel bought a Suzuki GS 500 2003 with plastics, rode it for 2 weeks before making a total-loss accident after trying to escape the PoLice (stupid obv),

Fixed it, rode it for 1 more year until all the electricity problems made me trade it for my current ride in the last 3 years - Suzuki SV 650 model 2011, very pleased from it, as do my gf (very comfy in the back).

Thinking about moving to KTM/BMW as I now live in the countryside and want to start riding in open trails :}

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Do you ride?

Tx mate, what u do with QQ spot??? :P

I think that online poker will eventually (matter of years) no longer exist in its current state, due to many-many reasons, among which are the PokerSnowie programs, which did a similar thing to Online-BackGammon a couple of years back...

I started my "no real job" days back in age 17, when I was playing online backgammon and making a steady 1,000$ income per month, while practicing with BackgammonSnowie, very good software.

Eventually people just started playing with the software online, made bots that cannot be beat etc.

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Live poker, on the other hand, will prob never stop, and would be the last and only place to look for VALUE

Too bad I'm somewhat NOOB in live games

Not sure what hand do u mean, but I def have a LOT to say about sizings in general..:}

People are so into clicking back and forth, that they somehow forgat the CRiTICAL importance of Fold-Equity

Great thread !

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I am hoping that poker sites will create better and better bot detection methods to save their (and our) cash cow.

Yeah seriously i give online poker like 5 more years man

thats holdem imo only

Which BMW do you have in mind? With KTM, I assume you're refering to a supermotard? Those bike are the nuts for having fun and do stupid **** with, not the optimal bike for longer rides. BMW is better suited for that, especially the GS series but not as much fun.

Ya I ride, but I don't have a bike atm but buying a KTM 660/690 SMC this summer.

gl this year bud, in for the sub

Didn't know Rick Grimes played some pokerz in the Walking Dead?

EXCITEDDDDD :}

Didn't fix it, although upgrading router did make some improvement. The problem is the infra-structure of the internet lines in my area (they SUCK). Will probably move to HOT (TV Cable internet or W/E) when I get back from SA.

R U EXCITED from the "Psychology of Poker" lesson, happening 2morrow????

Good luck with your goal, Stasia!

Quick question: I tried to find the 'float bet stat in 3bet pot' in Pokertracker 4, but can't find it. Is it a custom stat, or did you download it at the download warehouse?

Thanks!

I think it's a custom statI made, though not sure about it & not in front of comp.

Turn Float bet in 3bet+ pot,

No?

I'll just put it here...:}

PokerStars - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

nailuj90 (BTN): $1,506.59
stasia42 (SB): $1,364.15
IntenseDawg (BB): $2,172.54
sem8sib (UTG): $727.06
cipple444 (MP): $525.58
maloyd (CO): $502.50

stasia42 posts SB $2.50, IntenseDawg posts BB $5.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) stasia42 has J Q

fold, cipple444 raises to $15.00, fold, nailuj90 raises to $45.00, stasia42 raises to $125.00, fold, fold, nailuj90 calls $80.00

Flop: ($270.00, 2 players) 6 J 7
stasia42 checks, nailuj90 bets $140.00, stasia42 calls $140.00

Turn: ($550.00, 2 players) 8
stasia42 checks, nailuj90 bets $250.00, stasia42 calls $250.00

River: ($1,050.00, 2 players) 5
stasia42 checks, nailuj90 bets $380.00, stasia42 calls $380.00

nh man

Generally speaking it's improtant to understand that K9o is worse than ~35% of starting hands in poker, IMO

If you understand this, and if you understand basic consepts of defending on your open, OOP, vs Call + Raise, then you can see that K9o is very borderline, especially VS good thinking opponents.

In Vacuum, when I have no information on my opponents, I rather play somewhat GTO poker and adjust my ranges according to their behaviour.

For example - if villain is folding more than 67% of his BB to SB open, then yeah, I would DEF open K9o.

If villain defends wide in his BB, but then let-goes too much OTF, then also would open etc.

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Chillskill, regarding the

"when we fold we lose -50bb/100. And by opening we are gonna lose a ton less than that. "

line of thinking, you can get to very weird spots such as 3betting 25% of your range from SB vs BU open, and folding all the rest, which in turn will result hand like-

PokerStars - $5 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

stasia42 (BTN): $527.45
chillskill (SB): $500.00
sphinmx (BB): $572.29
PrtyPsux (UTG): $332.17
TUTI88 (MP): $660.81
cranck87 (CO): $621.30

chillskill posts SB $2.50, sphinmx posts BB $5.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) stasia42 has A A

fold, fold, fold, stasia42 raises to $11.00, chillskill raises to $35.00, fold, stasia42 raises to $86.00, chillskill raises to $500.00 and is all-in, stasia42 calls $414.00

Flop: ($1,005.00, 2 players) Q 4 7

Turn: ($1,005.00, 2 players) 6

River: ($1,005.00, 2 players) J



Not necessarily saying that it's a bad line, just saying it's a problematic one

The problem is not the bots, who play without any human guidance, but it is the Humans that play poker online with another software in the same time, a software that tells them the right move every time.

These kind of things cannot be detected, let's say you use a laptop alongside with your comp for instance..


Yeah was talking about NL, up to 100bb.

Deep stack NL, and PLO are very very far from being solved IMO, though prob in 3-4 years the best computer at PLO will be better than 90% of humanity so seems like the road leads to the same place.

I thought about the GS 650, super-cool moto that the Israeli Police (**** the Po-Lice) uses, very good both for road and for trail, though somewhat expensive in Israel (around 35,000$).

The KTM 660/690 is also an interesting option, though not a cheaper one :}

Thanks guys, if you have any questions about hands you've played, PLS do NOT hesitate!

First of all, there is no way of knowing if K9o is on the top 35% of hands or not.

The only thing that Im sure of is that against most oposition (probably against any oposition) playing K9 either by limping or raising SB vs BB will result in losing less than -50bb/100 that is what I will lose if I fold. So hence playing it is better than folding it. Having no info on your oponents you say that you rather play somewhat GTO and then adjust, which I think its correct and I also try to do something similar, tho I wouldnt really call it GTO ofc. And K9o is in my default for sure, because by default it will work better playing it than folding.

If villian is folding 67% from BB vs SB we can basically raise any two cards and make a profit actually, so K9o is veeery far from ;yeah then I would open it.



And that line of thinking is what I think its the best approach to the SB vs BTN strategy. It has nothing to do with the hand in particular. I just create an strategy around that scenario in which Im trying to always play hands where I think that it will be better than folding (when im pretty sure of it. ofc I might have some hands Im not playing which could be better than folding and I might be folding some that Im better of playing.) All of this from a "startpoint" strategy ofc, like my base "GTOish" strategy. Now the reasons for taking that line with that specific holding on that specific hand are others, which is not my base "GTOish" strategy, and which dont really had anything to do with the decission to 3bet in the first place. Yes they are related to one another, but they are different decisions. But Im just gonna say without getting more specific into it, is that particular line I took is very, very rare for me. But yeah Im very confident on my SB play, my "winrate" (actually is a loserate) is one of the best out of all my positions comparatively speaking, and its around -11ev bb/100 over good samples.



gl man and sorry for that beat, and Im not saying I would take this decision again with the same hand in the same scenario 100% of the time.

Well I think it would be easy for us to agree that K9o is worse than 27% of hands (Any pair, any broadway, and Ace), No..?

Then we start to think, what would we prefer playing OOP VS 1 opponent

Suited Kings OR K9o?

Suited connectros & 1-gappers OR K9o?

My answer for these questions is ussually towards the suited cards, which allow you additional gain of equity on various Turns + give you the chance to have nutted hands.

I actually prefer QXs than K9o for example, and would prob rate K9o ~42% of hands, throwing numbers into the air :}

No worries about the "beat", not so Beatish IMO, needs to be 90%-10% to even start hurting :}

LOL, semi-similar to me, seems more masculine though :P

Sooo,
Took some time off after a 1.5 years of hard work, relaxing in South-Africa for a month, mostly Cape-Town

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Week in the "African Burn".

Anybody here from SA??? Some good MTTs / cash games around?

Found any games?