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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
392 12.64%
$22K TO $28K
453 14.60%
$28K TO $34K
505 16.28%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.02%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.51%
MORE THAN $46K
929 29.95%

09-25-2014 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by riveredflush
nice post
@riveredflush thanks. A lot of pros hv left poker because it's getting so tough to beat and the brutality does them in. But, I believe if u choose ur games wisely, and stay within the roll it can still b very profitable. *for those that r great players... perhaps like u.

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Is it true someone folded 78 a month ago and they would have hit the bad beat?. I heard this from a friend of mine.
You know if this is true??
@seamsaclean yes, I had heard that too. Keep in mind, rumors spread like weeds in my landscaping down in that room. Mayb it did happen, maybe not. The story I was told by some random was the player didn't want to call $12 preflop w 7c8c. He wd have hit the low end of straight flush and beat by the high end. If true, not calling $12 cost him $100,000! Bad beat $216k.

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Need any help with Fantasy football let me know.

Your 4 team teaser for this week.

Indy - 1
San D -7
Pitt -1
And Orleans Over 47

Your welcome
@liveactionpro my fantasy team is struggling worse than my dancing skills. Currently 0-3. Destroyed this week to the team that scored a season high in fantasy pts. #alwaysupagainstit. I still feel gd about my team, but Eddie Lacy better start showing up for me!
Thanks for the 4 team teaser, but I don't bet sports. Never got into it, and I don't think I hv an edge. It sure wd b hard for me to even beat the juice. Although, I do bet on anything I hv an edge on... Tennis? Table tennis? Galaga? Poker? Backgammon? ...

My advice for sports bettors...
NBA : Never Bet Again.
NFL: No Fun Losing.
MLB: Money Lost Badly.


Update:
Taking today off because I took a lot of punches on the felt Tuesday and Wednesday. So many I need to take this day to recover, regroup, clear my head, do some chores, run some errands, play some tennis, and grill out w the family. I think my head is too clouded to play my very best, so the wise executive decision is to take the day off. I need to start focusing for the WSOP next week, and the mind needs to b right.
Kind of fitting, after my previous post how I pretty much said poker = #easygame. I still feel this way, but I was humbled quickly w that post. Tuesday lost -$369, Wed lost -$800. Looks like I'll end up w a week in the red, but the month still gd. +$1,404 overall in September to date. It hurts though to see my profits cut in half this month from nearly $3k to $1,404 in just last 2 days! Ouch!! That's the poker life. We deal w it, and move on.

Thanks for following my sick poker life. A life, where there r days I feel like a rock star, and days I feel like garbage juice at the bottom of the trash bag.
I strive to stay even keel and headstrong, it's a challenge; but it's what separates the men from boys.
Gd flipping luck out there.
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09-29-2014 , 03:35 PM
Bumping myself. (Hv no idea what that means, but I like it)

Ok, so didn't think much of this hand I played last week until it kept holding my mind hostage days later. I thought it was a pretty easy fold at the time, but as the days went by this hand kept creeping back in my head. Now I'm perplexed...gd fold? Or not?

The game is 1/2nl winner straddles $5+. Game is playing bigger than standard and a great mixture of styles.

I am down a buy-in at this point when I look down at J7 on my straddle in cutoff. I added up to half the big stack and sit w $600 in chips.

Utg $500: a winning/thinking player, 50yr old guy who carries a man purse. Plays the 2/5 & 5/10nl game regularly. Saw him an orbit earlier trying to value bet QQ ott after an Ace hi dry flop gets checked 4 ways...he then checked/called value river bet getting beat to a pair of Aces.
HiJack $300: great tourney player, usually plays the daily Ts, TAG, buyins on the short side. Great instincts, plays composed and within himself.
Cutoff/Me $600: straddle $10, down a buy in, frustrated.
2 other players who fold otf both have $600ish.

...5 limps to me w J7 on the $10 straddle in cutoff. I wanted badly to raise the dead $60 in position, but tank checked instead. The flop comes 894 for a flopped flush for "this guy" ! After seeing Yahtzee, all I am thinking is don't screw this up...Maximize ur profit!! Everyone checks to HJ who bets $30. I call, hoping it wd entice more calls behind me, or mayb smone getting out of line behind me. Utg does check/call, but other 2 players fold. The turn brings a brick 2. This time it was checked around to me, and I fired out little more than half pot size bet of $80. Utg check/calls, HJ check/calls. Pot is now $390, and the river is a gut wrenching 9. Not too bad of a card if it gets checked around to me, but if the line changes, then worrisome. Well, the line did change, and this time utg leads out $170 . HJ folds, and I also decided to fold behind. It just seemed like a sick value bet from a full house (or higher flush). But I also considered the bet to be a blocker bet (or perhaps value bet) from a smaller inferior flush. I conclusively went w my first read and my instincts told me he got there otr. If he had a bigger flush, I feel he takes a different line before the river. Mayb it was a smaller flush, but the line he took looked like he had flopped a set or top 2, I sheepishly folded the river. I tried to pry for info after the hand, but like a boss he never said what he had.

Since this fold, I been thinking about it days later. I realize utg is laying me $560:$170 = 3.3:1 to call. What u guys think?

Thanks.
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09-29-2014 , 05:40 PM
Good fold Rayz, you're never good in my opinion...seems like 89 to me, but I'll do some thinking, I don't really see anything you can beat in this situation given the action (him leading into 2 players showing strength). UTG probably had A of spades.
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09-29-2014 , 08:32 PM
Way to think it through. I'd be folding here too. Who cares the 3 to 1, if ya beat ya beat.

World Series Circuit starts this week at your casino! Cash games or tourneys for ya? I'm gonna try to make it to the main event next Saturday. Gl gl
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09-29-2014 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by YSter
World Series Circuit starts this week at your casino! Cash games or tourneys for ya? I'm gonna try to make it to the main event next Saturday. Gl gl
Already reg'd for event 1&2 and main, so those for sure. Ill b playing both cash& tourneys.

Gd luck
Wsop success, or bust trying.

@twspoker1 I Agree w u.
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09-30-2014 , 09:03 PM
Bet 125 on turn and don't fold river
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09-30-2014 , 10:54 PM
Good luck in the wsopc tourneys. I know you feel strongly about winning one of these things, but I assure you that your cash winrate is as/more impressive than having good/great tournament results. Either way I think youre due and think your hard work will pay off no matter what you do. Had a room booked for Wed/Thurs this week but had to cancel it. Might try to come next week. Win one for the good guys who contribute quality material to the forums!

Ohh yeah and I probably talk myself into calling river due to our hand being so underrepped and the fact that he could have a few 9's that we beat. Given the player description it sounds like you are pretty honed into the players game and I like that you went with your read. Did you ask him after the fact if he had it? Some players will give an honest answer when you/they rack up or the next day... If he check raised river I would think you have to fold. A river lead Im probably calling.

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10-01-2014 , 09:31 AM
With the pot odds, strength of your hand, and a good chance he could have A9 with A of spades, or lower flush. Then again, poker is so situational that you have to go by how your opponent was playing and played in the past( which I have no info to go on).
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10-01-2014 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 3bet4life
With the pot odds, strength of your hand, and a good chance he could have A9 with A of spades, or lower flush. Then again, poker is so situational that you have to go by how your opponent was playing and played in the past( which I have no info to go on).
I agree. I was thinking along same lines
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10-01-2014 , 07:16 PM
^ still not sure about the Js7s hand. One day I like my fold and next day I don't. It's so close. Still not sure. I do feel my hand is under repd, but him leading river after check calling on both streets felt strong to me. Today it's 50/50 still undecided.

Today: lose $600 very quickly. Playing 1/2 w deep stacks. An average stack size was well over $1k w a couple $4k stacks. Straddles were $5 up to $100. Gross game that didn't go my way.
Please October b kind to me! I am going into October knowing it could be my first losing month in over 2 years. I must yield some cashes in these WSOP Tourneys for it to b profitable. I'm taking some big shots this month playing a lot of tourneys. The realist in me is preparing for the worst, but hoping for the best.
Event 1 $365 starts tomorrow!

#heart.
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10-01-2014 , 07:56 PM
Average stack size over 1k and a few over 4k, in a 1/2 game?? I've never seen that at SI Horseshoe.
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10-01-2014 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BigSoonerFan
Average stack size over 1k and a few over 4k, in a 1/2 game?? I've never seen that at SI Horseshoe.
U wd have if u was there this morning on table 12. Easily 2 players w $4k stacks, and one w $2k. Never said "few", I said "couple" = 2. All the day shift dealers will back it up. Matter of fact, dealer Bob received a $100 tip (black bird) from a player who shipped a $4k pot.
I know I lost $400 in that game, and $200 more on a different table.
The cash games are always crazy this time of year. #wsop
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10-01-2014 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
U wd have if u was there this morning on table 12. Easily 2 players w $4k stacks, and one w $2k. Never said "few", I said "couple" = 2. All the day shift dealers will back it up. Matter of fact, dealer Bob received a $100 tip (black bird) from a player who shipped a $4k pot.
I know I lost $400 in that game, and $200 more on a different table.
The cash games are always crazy this time of year. #wsop
I was calling you a liar...but I thought maybe you meant 2/5 instead of 1/2. That's crazy. And in my mind a few is 2 or 3...so that's why I typed it.

I definitely need to get out there this week!
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10-01-2014 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
U wd have if u was there this morning on table 12. Easily 2 players w $4k stacks, and one w $2k. Never said "few", I said "couple" = 2. All the day shift dealers will back it up. Matter of fact, dealer Bob received a $100 tip (black bird) from a player who shipped a $4k pot.
I know I lost $400 in that game, and $200 more on a different table.
The cash games are always crazy this time of year. #wsop
That's awesome, Bob's the man!
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10-01-2014 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
@seamsaclean yes, I had heard that too. Keep in mind, rumors spread like weeds in my landscaping down in that room. Mayb it did happen, maybe not. The story I was told by some random was the player didn't want to call $12 preflop w 7c8c. He wd have hit the low end of straight flush and beat by the high end. If true, not calling $12 cost him $100,000! Bad beat $216k.

The kid is from my hometown. He flopped the low end of a straight flush and when showdown happened, villain showed the higher end of it. Apparently, he threw down his cards, leaving the 7c exposed but dealer mucked the 8c. I was also told he went off the road on his way home lol...I would too!
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10-02-2014 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by capiscc
The kid is from my hometown. He flopped the low end of a straight flush and when showdown happened, villain showed the higher end of it. Apparently, he threw down his cards, leaving the 7c exposed but dealer mucked the 8c. I was also told he went off the road on his way home lol...I would too!
Was this a first hand re-telling of the story or did someone else tell this story?
I'm just saying if I had that hand I would NEVER throw my hand over like this, simply flip the cards over extremely controlled and slow. Actually if there was ever an acceptable time to slowroll, it would be this time. I'm not saying that you are lying, just saying that it sounds like a nice cop-out by blaming the dealer for him losing the bad beat. I wasn't there, so I have no idea, just speculating. This story just sounds to sick to be true, sorry.
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10-02-2014 , 10:53 AM
^haven't heard that version of the story, but if true, that's the pinnacle of all bad beats!!!


Screw Twitter, I'll b updating WSOP Event 1 (at Horseshoe Southern Indiana) on this forum for anybody wanting a sweat. Don't count on too much, haven't cashed in a tourney all year.
Don't know how much I'll be able to post, really depends if they hv the wifi on. If not, I'll update during breaks.
Pre tourney breakfast of champions...
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10-02-2014 , 11:24 AM
Good luck and Run GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!
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10-02-2014 , 11:39 AM
Pre Tourney Meditation...



Now we ready!
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10-02-2014 , 11:42 AM
GL to you. make good decisions and let the rest fall where it may
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10-02-2014 , 11:57 AM
Thanks guys!

It's go time. No wifi btw. I asked Jimmy (poker supervisor). He sent an email to get it turned on. As of now nothing. I'll Update on breaks.
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10-02-2014 , 12:22 PM
GLGLGLGL RAYZ, TAKE IT DOWN!
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10-02-2014 , 01:35 PM
Breaking after level 3. Thought it wd b after 4, but oh well. Heading into level 4 for w 30k ish. 10k to 30k. Off to a gd start and gd table draw. 175 runners so far.

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10-02-2014 , 02:14 PM
Nice start. Keep it up!
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10-02-2014 , 03:15 PM
Heading into level 7. 50/200/400. Have 28k.
Registration closed after level 6, and the screen shows 185 players. It might go up a few players during the break.
My table has gotten a little tougher w few of the softer players busting, and replaced w much better players. Still grinding and playing gd.
It is a freaking mad house in this poker room. Event 1 going on, 3p turbo just started, single table satellites, cash game galore, and the sounds of the slots in the background.
I'll update again next break.
Appreciate the support!
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