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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
392 12.64%
$22K TO $28K
453 14.61%
$28K TO $34K
505 16.29%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.03%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.51%
MORE THAN $46K
928 29.93%

06-20-2021 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
tough loss. you made a +ev bet and it didnt work out. Without Kyrie injury the Nets win in 5.
It wasn't a +EV bet lol. Kyrie Irving has a history of getting injured. -150 odds for the Nets to win 2 series back to back is not good odds.
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06-20-2021 , 03:07 AM
Gonna be clips/bucks finals.
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06-20-2021 , 09:39 AM
The next day is always the most painful. Setting in today and feeling all the pain. I feel I got my money in good, so I’m relishing in the misery.
Cd hv been a home run, but we struck out.

No lambo doors now.
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06-20-2021 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
The next day is always the most painful. Setting in today and feeling all the pain. I feel I got my money in good, so I’m relishing in the misery.
Cd hv been a home run, but we struck out.

No lambo doors now.
Just bad luck that Irving had one of those unlucky injuries. No question they beat the Bucks in 5 had he been healthy.
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06-20-2021 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
The next day is always the most painful. Setting in today and feeling all the pain. I feel I got my money in good, so I’m relishing in the misery.
Cd hv been a home run, but we struck out.

No lambo doors now.
Did you though?

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Originally Posted by JRH
Just bad luck that Irving had one of those unlucky injuries. No question they beat the Bucks in 5 had he been healthy.
I know right, who could have forseen Irving being injured? Totally unforeseeable bad luck.

DATE DESCRIPTION
06/13/2021 Ankle
05/11/2021 Face
04/29/2021 Groin
04/11/2021 Personal
03/22/2021 Personal
03/17/2021 Groin
02/27/2021 Injury Recovery
02/16/2021 Back
02/06/2021 Finger
01/07/2021 Health And Safety Protocols
02/18/2020 Shoulder
02/01/2020 Knee
01/26/2020 Personal
01/20/2020 Hamstring
11/15/2019 Right Shoulder
11/13/2019 Right Shoulder
04/08/2019 Knee
03/30/2019 Back
03/25/2019 Rest
03/06/2019 Left Thigh Contusion
02/10/2019 Strained Right Knee
02/04/2019 Left Hip Strain
01/28/2019 Left Hip Strain
01/23/2019 Illness
01/13/2019 Quad
01/01/2019 Eye
12/10/2018 Shoulder
03/24/2018 Knee Surgery
03/11/2018 Knee
03/05/2018 Sore Left Knee
01/31/2018 Sore Quadriceps
01/17/2018 Sore Left Shoulder
12/11/2017 Left Quad Contusion
11/11/2017 Facial Fracture
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06-20-2021 , 03:06 PM
Counterpoint: he was due to not get injured
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06-20-2021 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Did you though?



I know right, who could have forseen Irving being injured? Totally unforeseeable bad luck.

DATE DESCRIPTION
06/13/2021 Ankle
05/11/2021 Face
04/29/2021 Groin
04/11/2021 Personal
03/22/2021 Personal
03/17/2021 Groin
02/27/2021 Injury Recovery
02/16/2021 Back
02/06/2021 Finger
01/07/2021 Health And Safety Protocols
02/18/2020 Shoulder
02/01/2020 Knee
01/26/2020 Personal
01/20/2020 Hamstring
11/15/2019 Right Shoulder
11/13/2019 Right Shoulder
04/08/2019 Knee
03/30/2019 Back
03/25/2019 Rest
03/06/2019 Left Thigh Contusion
02/10/2019 Strained Right Knee
02/04/2019 Left Hip Strain
01/28/2019 Left Hip Strain
01/23/2019 Illness
01/13/2019 Quad
01/01/2019 Eye
12/10/2018 Shoulder
03/24/2018 Knee Surgery
03/11/2018 Knee
03/05/2018 Sore Left Knee
01/31/2018 Sore Quadriceps
01/17/2018 Sore Left Shoulder
12/11/2017 Left Quad Contusion
11/11/2017 Facial Fracture
As I said, it was an unlucky injury. Playing well and he lands on someone's foot going up for a rebound. Not sure what at all that has to do with his injury history. No player whose foot bends at a 90 degree ankle shakes that off. Always leads to a multiple week absence.
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06-20-2021 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JRH
As I said, it was an unlucky injury. Playing well and he lands on someone's foot going up for a rebound. Not sure what at all that has to do with his injury history. No player whose foot bends at a 90 degree ankle shakes that off. Always leads to a multiple week absence.
Yes just like all those other injuries were unlucky. Who could predict such an unlucky occurrence? He is injury prone. The fact that he has bad spatial awareness and goes up for a shot so that he lands on one foot so hard is why he is injury prone. It's not random. Bad spatial awareness and flat Earther. He might be the dumbest player in the NBA. Dumb people get hurt. Literally one of his injuries is him hyperextending his knee trying to reach out to steal the ball. He doesn't understand his body's own limitations. If it wasn't rolling an ankle there was a good chance it would have been banging a knee into someone else or getting right behind another player going up for a rebound and getting elbowed hard. Once you've been injured you're more susceptible to aggravating that injury. Staying healthy is not a given.

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06-20-2021 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
Counterpoint: he was due to not get injured

Obv this.

That’s why when the roulette board is all red, you obv bet black
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06-20-2021 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Obv this.

That’s why when the roulette board is all red, you obv bet black
Finally someone gets it. I can tell you are also a expert gambler
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06-20-2021 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
you made a +ev bet and it didnt work out.
haven’t been following, maybe I missed it..

genuine questions:

what percentage of sportsbettors do you think are profitable

how are you guys coming to the conclusion that any of these bets are +EV considering the juice

is OP factoring in the opportunity cost of the capital for futures plays (TVM)

what’s OP’s core competency/how is he gaining an edge over the specialized computer modeling/AI that likely exists for this niche in 2021
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06-20-2021 , 10:14 PM
Consensus based on some studies I read was 3% are profitable, those who use good BRM and analyze, look for edges etc. Seems about right considering 10% vig is standard? Who said Rayz had an edge? He is gambling.
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06-21-2021 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
haven’t been following, maybe I missed it..

genuine questions:

what percentage of sportsbettors do you think are profitable

how are you guys coming to the conclusion that any of these bets are +EV considering the juice

is OP factoring in the opportunity cost of the capital for futures plays (TVM)

what’s OP’s core competency/how is he gaining an edge over the specialized computer modeling/AI that likely exists for this niche in 2021
you are new here!
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06-21-2021 , 12:22 AM
ah okay gotcha, op looking to diewzero

#yolo #tothemoon #lfg
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06-21-2021 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
haven’t been following, maybe I missed it..

genuine questions:

what percentage of sportsbettors do you think are profitable

how are you guys coming to the conclusion that any of these bets are +EV considering the juice

is OP factoring in the opportunity cost of the capital for futures plays (TVM)

what’s OP’s core competency/how is he gaining an edge over the specialized computer modeling/AI that likely exists for this niche in 2021
The secret to beating sports betting is that you don't have to bet. You also don't need to outperform any kind of computer modeling. Bookies don't really care what the true odds for a competition are. They simply want to balance their books and collect a vig. So good sports betting opportunities will arise from time to time. It happens when there is a lot of dumb money being bet, usually when a big event happens. When Pacquaio fought Mayweather everyone in the Philippines bet on Pacman. Odds were 2-1 in favor of Mayweather when the true odds were probably more like 10-1. And when Mayweather fought McGregor all the dumb micks bet on McGregor skewing the odds yet again. Tons of dumb money poured in for those fights. Large market teams like Los Angeles or New York are going to have more homers betting for their team than a smaller market team like the Memphis Grizzlies. So just wait to bet on the big events, ask a bunch of stupid people who they like and then bet against that.
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06-21-2021 , 01:32 AM
cliffs on the thread?
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06-21-2021 , 05:48 AM
OP is a former poker pro who made millions on NIO stock, then got into real estate and is living the semi-retired life now - gambling for the lulz with what's pocket change to him.
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06-21-2021 , 06:50 AM
also, bagz hasn't been incarcerated yet. he is likely homeless and accepts weed and beer (and hookers?) as payment for his labor.

OP,
can we have an bagz AMA? i feel like him answering a bunch of our questions on video would be something enjoyable. so many questions...
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06-21-2021 , 08:53 AM
MANA back to .50, not a good week for our hero
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06-21-2021 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
The secret to beating sports betting is that you don't have to bet. You also don't need to outperform any kind of computer modeling. Bookies don't really care what the true odds for a competition are. They simply want to balance their books and collect a vig. So good sports betting opportunities will arise from time to time. It happens when there is a lot of dumb money being bet, usually when a big event happens. When Pacquaio fought Mayweather everyone in the Philippines bet on Pacman. Odds were 2-1 in favor of Mayweather when the true odds were probably more like 10-1. And when Mayweather fought McGregor all the dumb micks bet on McGregor skewing the odds yet again. Tons of dumb money poured in for those fights. Large market teams like Los Angeles or New York are going to have more homers betting for their team than a smaller market team like the Memphis Grizzlies. So just wait to bet on the big events, ask a bunch of stupid people who they like and then bet against that.
pretty much this. Another example is betting against all of the dumb Trump money that came in on the election last year, picking your spots a few times per year and then pounding the **** out of it for significant % of your net worth is the way to go, very few people have the patience to actually do this. the bookies don't care that you are making a +ev bet, they need you to hedge against the millions of $$ that are being bet on the other side. the people making 10-20 bets per weekend on regular season NFL spreads have a 0.000% of being profitable.
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06-21-2021 , 09:25 AM
Another good example is the Super Bowl. The game sometimes can be profitable, but the some props definitely are.
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06-21-2021 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Fodersneso
OP is a former poker pro who made millions on NIO stock, then got into real estate and is living the semi-retired life now - gambling for the lulz with what's pocket change to him.
There are hints of truth in this post.
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06-21-2021 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
MANA back to .50, not a good week for our hero
Yes much. Prob $30k down last week.
Don’t mind the price of mana right now. I wdnt mind buying tons more. The MANA train will steamroll once we get everyone on board. Plenty of room.

This flip house will go for sale in a couple months and if mana still at these levels we buying $100,000 more worth.
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06-21-2021 , 06:42 PM
Time to set a short term goal

Here it is:

1) sell the flip house by Sept 1.
2) if make $25k+ in profit; then we play the main event in October.
3). Buy $100,000 more worth of MANA using the house flip money.
4) go back to poker using the rest of $ we have from house flip.


Hopefully we get $160k out of house.
Make $25k profit, Play the main, buy $100,00 worth of mana, and use 50k for life/poker roll.
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06-22-2021 , 01:57 AM
At least you have to wait till Sept 1st. If this bear market continues, alts (like MANA) will get beat down hard. You will probably be able to buy at $.10 or lower.
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