You are insufferable.

What is the point, you'll just say everyone is wrong anyways.

Yeah I hate it too when I only get Aces every 10 hands, crazy how you can win the most at the table when you run that badly.

Can u not answer the question expert?
What’s a gd hourly bub?


He had 45.
What’s a gd hourly bub?

Most card dead by far, won the most money.
#easygame

What’s a gd hourly at 1/2nl w an occasional 1 or 2 $5 straddle every orbit? Let’s also say on average stacks hover around $300. *it usually below that during the days when I play w sm people buying in short. We can $300 tho.

Can u give me a gd hourly bub?

$350/hour

You're posting a question and then immediately following it up with an agitated response. I feel like you're starting to go to The Bad Place. I'm guessing your early morning sesh didn't go that great today, because otherwise it's that you're bucking against people telling you hard truths that you don't want to hear, and you've said several times that you love when people doubt you/hate on you and you relish getting new information.

So maybe consider hitting up a treefort or something for the rest of the day and mellowing out. This type of mania, while amusing in a carcrash type of way, isn't helping you accomplish your goals.

A "good" winrate, at an average live 1/2nl game, is $20/hr. You said that the game you play in is "top 10 softest" so I guess a "good" winrate in the softest 1/2nl game in the world would be close to $30/hr since the stacks should be much larger than 100bb effective, with plenty of straddles, and a ton of people paying off good hands.

I wouldn't know, I've never played that low buster. If I had to guess I'd say $30/hr. What are your stats?? #StatsTalking

https://youtu.be/s3O_R6nBQsA?t=12699

"Rayz been playing pretty snug and when he gets some of these hands I'll tell ya, I swear to god, he's gotten queens, kings, aces, ace-king so many times I can't even count" -Justin Kelly

Please stop saying you were the most card dead by far. Story does not check out. You are delusional.

Can u show me where I said softest?
Most players at that room wd say it’s one of the toughest rooms around. I hear many of times from many of players saying when they play elsewhere it’s much easier.
Never said soft.
More of the same ridiculous statements.
No u got it wrong. It’s helping a lot reaching my goals. Please don’t stop!! Keep em coming. U guys making me money lol. #wehungry

So I got u saying $20-$30. We’ll say $25/hr? Thanks for responding!

Anyone else wanna chime in?

Sorry, you said "biggest"

Obviously when you said "biggest" you were trying to imply that it was soft because you wanted to "shut down" the strawman you invented that people would ask you why you haven't moved up in stakes in 15 years. Now you are saying that the game you choose to play for 15 years is the toughest in the country. Interesting. Why do you keep playing there? What's your hourly in the past 2 years?

Yo butterfly - you said it was one of the 10 biggest iirc. For one of the biggest but not softest I think a stone cold killer could win 30 bux per hour. A legit pro should be able to beat it for 25 imo

Thanks guys for the replies. Always great to hear from these wizards.
I’ll be back for my response shortly. Tied up atm...we strumming in the bathroom for the acoustics w a cold one after hitting the onie in the garage. Recording session.
Brb

I can confirm the games are tougher than your average 1/2nl, morning games are mostly OMC but the evening games can get big/insane with randoms straddling $10-20 consistently some nights. I would say 30/hr is achievable for most solid players IF you were to play into the evenings when these games occur.

Thanks for chiming in @Prodigy!
What’s ur honest opinion of a gd hourly during Mon-Thurs around the 10a to 3p schedule? Just curious what u think.
Appreciate ya!

Edit: CD comes out next year.

Depends on the game.
I’d say in an average 1/2 nl game ( 200 cap, no big stack buy in, ect, no miss straddle, no counting promo wins)
20/hr is a pretty standard “good” hourly.
Rake and bad beat jackpot will change how easy or hard it is to achieve of course.

I’d say at 1/3 and horseshoes 1/2 nl 30/hr is pretty standard.
I did above 30 and less than 40 per hr when I played the 1/2 full time before moving up, grinding long 3rd shift hours w/t/f/s. With 20+ hours of study per week.

During those lineups where the median age is 73, anything over 20/hr is good imo.

Appreciate all the responses!

Seems like the consensus is anywhere from $20-$30 hour. More towards $30 in prime time hours and more towards $20 during the day.
Poker IS about the money. Poker IS about ur hourly. We can not deny that. If u do, ur a complete idiot. It’s all about the money. That’s how we keep score.

U guys wanna say this and that about certain lines, shoving turns, etc. Its fine, I respect it and appreciate it. It’s also cool we disagree in a lot of spots too. No big deal. That’s why poker is poker.

Basically tho I’m hearing from these experts that a great hourly at 1/2nl is $25/hr. That’s with w an occasional 1 or 2 5$ straddle every orbit w avg stacks $300. $25ish/hr from the experts.

Now lets say there is a player that can get 50% MORE than what the “experts” say. All while grinding the worst hours and days in poker.
FIFTY PERCENT (lol) more of $25/hr equals $37.5/hr.

I’ll put up everything I hv atm to anyone who wants to bet. It must be escrowed into an account. U can count that my money will be there. I will put it all on the line. Everything I hv right now. I’ll cash out my poker chips, withdraw from RH, and convert it all to cash to be escrowed.
Not sure my exact amount atm, but let’s just say we can easily hv $3,000 before end of January.
Any takers for $3k, no buyouts, that I make $37.5+/hr in 1/2nl this year? We can say that I must hv at least 700 hours to qualify.

A good hourly for a guy who is getting AA every 10 hands (while claiming to be card dead) is probably around $500.

Good money but you should consider adding passive income streams by loansharking to your friends and relatives.

Does this mean u wanna bet?
We are talking 50% more than what the experts say.
$37.5/hr in 1/2nl.
U shd b way gd if u on the experts side.

Not even slightly interested since anyone can run good and, more importantly, there's no way to make sure you don't cheat. GL though bro.

Anyone can run bad too. If u knew poker, u shd know variance plays both sides bub.

Also, let’s try not try infiltrate the thread w lies. Never said aces 1 out of ten hands. More ridiculousness. I said, folding ten hands in a row and then wake up w Aces or something. “Something” referring to actual playable hand. Maybe I had Aces once, Kings once, Ak once over a few hours. The rest were rags 9 out of 10 hands dealt. Not sure how else to explain it.
No one really likes to hear the same post over and over. Let’s try not to construe the facts w lies.

The (implied) vig on honor bets with middle aged rounding up a stake for the 1/2 game players has got to be pretty high. Gl though.

So in a game you claim isn't soft you think you can win at nearly 20bb/hr? It's not soft you're just some amazing cash game pro, who's near broke and still playing 1/2 seven years after the start of this thread... And having watched you play on stream for a little bit, you're strategy is basically just playing like a nit. A strategy which any competent player could beat by simply avoiding you. But again, game isn't soft, you're just a great player who can beat tough lineups for nearly 20bb/hr. Can you see how that can't be true?

And when you're nearly cash poor you want to escrow you're entire liferoll for a whole year? LOL. You wouldn't have any money to buy in right away. And 700 hours for a whole year? Whoa buddy <2 hours a day. Don't push yourself too hard there. It's not like it's worth it to put in lots of hours when your hourly is 37.50. It's not about money. Or wait, you said it is about money. So why on earth if you think you're hourly is so high would you put such a low number for minimum hours?? It's ridiculous.

Let's say there is a player who could win 50% more than what the experts say. He wouldn't still be playing 1/2 seven years later and underwater.

We going hard on you for a reason dawg. It's because what you say is condescending, arrogant, insufferable, etc. No one is going to want to bet against you. Not because you're not drawing dead, you are, but because no one is going to take some insufferable broke know-it-all's word for it. Especially since you seem so tied to the image that you are this great poker player capable of making 50% more than what the experts think is good. You are the one, you are Neo, in your mind. Of course you'll fudge the numbers here and there because, hey you ran bad, or you weren't playing your A game one night, but if you were you would have made this or that, so let's report that instead. In short, you aren't trustworthy. You aren't even open and honest with your spouse, why would you expect strangers on the internet to trust you with a self reported bet? You lack honor and have a poor reputation.

Good luck man, if you really think you're hourly is 37.50 then just go to the casino and play more. 80 hours will net you 3k. It won't be locked in escrow for a year, you can gamble it on penny stocks and maybe hit it big. And you won't have to wait to scrape together a bankroll either. It's a stupid bet you've proposed. Lose/lose for you. Except of course if you're lying to yourself, which you are.

Yes I’m saying exactly that .
Does this mean u want to bet?

Not interested in the bet but will freeroll $100 to the charity of your choice if you can win maintain that w/r throughout 2020