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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
392 12.65%
$22K TO $28K
453 14.61%
$28K TO $34K
504 16.26%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.03%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.52%
MORE THAN $46K
928 29.94%

05-13-2013 , 11:44 PM
Subbed. Rooting for the 40k/year end profit AND some major tourney binkage.

Few more HH's from big pots and interesting spots would be nice though!

GL.
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05-14-2013 , 03:14 AM
@skillz2106 thanks for the cheers! HH and interesting spots requested, therefore I will try to oblige. Gl to u as well

Update: can't sleep
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05-14-2013 , 08:18 PM
Today started off at 8am w the tennis ball machine. I set the rotation to 2/3/2 (2forehands to 3backhands to 2 forehands). I had the cones set up in the deep corners, and the music playing. The weather was perfect, the blood was flowing, and at times I felt like Andre Agassi (absent of the crystal meth). After tennis, I clock n around 9:45 n the poker room, and started stack building. By the way, Chips Dig Me...
Today was one of those fun days at the table. Almost everyone at the table was a reg, which makes for some great banter.
I must say all the regs are great guys and I really value the comradery. Dealers too.
Today I earned 320 times as much as yesterday. +$320
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05-14-2013 , 09:46 PM
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at times I felt like Andre Agassi (absent of the crystal meth).
Too funny. His admission to Meth in his book blew my mind when I heard that!

Good job today!
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05-15-2013 , 04:56 PM
"chips dig me"
Nice lol. You forgot your hashtag though haha. He's a sick player man
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05-15-2013 , 05:08 PM
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"chips dig me"
Nice lol.
They r leaving me for someone else today. Currently -$167
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05-15-2013 , 06:58 PM
This is a great thread! One I check in on often. Thanks for staying with it. Hope you get your goal.
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05-15-2013 , 08:27 PM
Just a heads up. WSOPC schedule out. HSI kept their stop.
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05-15-2013 , 10:27 PM
That's good news. I was afraid HSI wd lose it to HCO, but it looks like we r spoiled w both on schedule. Thanks for heads up.

Today -$197
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05-16-2013 , 09:21 AM
Had a loss yesterday, so need to book a win today. So I decided to get up early and do the ole "Undefeated Routine" (7am mcdeez, 7:30a drop daughter off at school, 8a toddler at daycare, 8:30a planet fitness, 10a poker room). Currently doing some seated bench @planefitness. Undefeated when working out before playing (around 8-0) poker this year. There might b something more to this than just superstition here....
I will know later tonight if the "ole udefeated routine" streak is still in tact.
To b cont..
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05-16-2013 , 09:58 AM

I feel smarter today. Test pic. Thanks @skillz_2106
It's on now
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05-16-2013 , 08:05 PM
Saw the table today, and it looked tough. I noticed A lot of the better regulars playing. You had a nice stack. How'd you finish? what did you buy in for?
-anonymous
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05-16-2013 , 11:05 PM
@23straight say what’s up some time. Unless u wd like to stay anonymous-that’s cool too. Don’t know too many people on here. Always cool to put a face w a screen name.
Today had more swings than a playground. Up 400, down 200, up 100, even, down 200, add on $200, up 100, up 300, cash out +$267. So the “Ole Early Morning Routine” (OEMR) remains intact at 9-0. I promise you EVERY SINGLE TIME I’ve had that SAME routine this year, it’s been a winning sesh. EVERYTIME! SCOUTS HONOR-EVERYTIME! Next time I play the main event, you can bet the farm I will be doing the “OEMR”! What is the “OEMR” you ask. It is precisely this…McDonald’s breakfast 7am, then dropping Mya off at school 7:30a, followed by working out, and ending w clocking in the poker room around 10a. That’s it, that’s the OEMR. You may ask why I don’t do this every day if I’m having these results. The OEMR has stipulations! I can only use this move (OEMR) 2 times a month. The OEMR CAN NOT be abused! It has to remain on the top shelf until you need to book that must win. The 2cap limit has been reached this month, and I will have to wait until June before OEMR is utilized again. …OH Snap!!! School is out in June! … I hope it still works when school is replaced w daycare. I guess I will find out in June. This could screw up everything!! Maybe I play it safe and wait to use OEMR when school starts back up in August. #decisions

An interesting spot. Thoughts?
Villain: played 2 orbits, witnessed him ch/raising river w 2pair w one player, and making a soul read call on another player, wide range, mixes it up well, winning player. STACK is $475 A 10
ME: $600 K 10
Hand: I make it $12 in Hijack and large blind calls. Heads up to the flop of 10 10 8. Villain checks, I bet $15, Villain raises to $40, I call. Turn is 5, Villain bets $50, and I call. River is 3, Villain bets $50 again, I raise to $150. He calls, I lose.
I mull over this hand for the next hour, thinking if I should hv just called river. I was pretty sure Villain didn’t raise this flop on a nut hand like 8 8,10 8. It seemed more in line w 10x. I’m thinking 10J & 10Q are both very possible, maybe same hand 10K, and A10 is very likely as well. 10 9 prob checks river, so not too likely. My thought process was he has 1 out of the 4 hands (10 w face card kicker). I took my chances and raised hoping it’s not A 10. I’m getting called by ALL 4 of those hands, so I think I still would do the same thing.

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05-16-2013 , 11:35 PM
I'm calling calling 40% and raising 60% of the time. Is this villian capable of bluff shoving? If so, did your raise sizing leave him enough room to do so?
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05-16-2013 , 11:46 PM
I just call the river...but I need to be better at getting value in these spots when I'm best. What do you do if he shoves back over the top?...but you did have the correct read that he didn't have the boat.

Overall I think trips are the one of the hardest hands to play. If you're getting action it seems like you are beat a good percentage of the time. Almost harder with good kickers because you can't get away.

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05-17-2013 , 12:48 AM
Im with fluke on this one...my #s may be even a bit higher than his...prolly flatting 20% and raising river 80% ...I definitely think your losing value not raising here...I even think he takes the same line with 10-9...I don't think you have to worry about getting 3bet bluffed in this spot....I don't know if I've saw many if any 3 bet bluffs at HSI in my time playing their and that's why im raising at least 80% of the time here...knowing im prolly gonna get called and lose around 1 of 5 times but getting the extra value off the other 10x combos that I beat the other 4 times...keep the situational questions coming!!!
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05-17-2013 , 02:29 AM
Looks like you recovered nicely after our A10 vs K10 pot. Sorry about filling up on the river with the Jacks. Enjoyed playing with you. I'll I traduced myself next time I'm down.

Good luck
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05-17-2013 , 07:16 AM
Holy cow it's the villain-@omahaulin!!! U played well yesterday. Nice playing with u. When u had rivered set of jacks in the other hand, I rivered straight.
I agree w @emptinpockets. Villain never bluff shoves here.
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05-17-2013 , 07:24 AM
I think this hand illustrates a point I have been making in regards to buy-ins at 1/2.
I hear all the time at HSC and Hollywood how people wish they could buy in up to the biggest stack. In my opinion a hand like this is very difficult to play deep and relatively easy with shorter stacks.

If I am sitting with 200-300 on a hand like this I can get it in and expect to get a nice double up a good amount of the time. I can make a river value bet without fear of someone coming over the top. I can play against the flop c/r without having to risk $700. If we are deep I may have to pot control (especially with worse kickers) or worse, lay down a winner.

In all your hours this year how many wins of $300+ have you had in a single hand?

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05-17-2013 , 07:42 AM
I like ur brain @boileref! U hv gd thought process!
Playing w deeper stacks def makes a difference on the lines I take.
To answer ur question, I like to play a lot of big pots, and bet up huge draws, so I think I prob AVG 1 $300+single hand (profit not pot) every winning sesh. No stats to support this, just merely an educated guess. I know yesterday I had 2 or 3, but also lost a couple.

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05-17-2013 , 07:49 AM
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I think this hand illustrates a point I have been making in regards to buy-ins at 1/2.
I hear all the time at HSC and Hollywood how people wish they could buy in up to the biggest stack. In my opinion a hand like this is very difficult to play deep and relatively easy with shorter stacks.

If I am sitting with 200-300 on a hand like this I can get it in and expect to get a nice double up a good amount of the time. I can make a river value bet without fear of someone coming over the top. I can play against the flop c/r without having to risk $700. If we are deep I may have to pot control (especially with worse kickers) or worse, lay down a winner.

In all your hours this year how many wins of $300+ have you had in a single hand?

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I strongly disagree with this thinking. I want the decisions to be difficult for everyone involved. Playing short greatly reduces your edge against bad players. When playing short more hands go to showdown and the best hand always wins there.

How often you invest $300 in a hand isn't that relevant. An $80 turn bet has much more leverage when you have $500 behind than when you have $100 behind.
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05-17-2013 , 08:10 AM
The beauty of NLH is nothing is absolute and I agree that I would like to play deep against bad players but often the other deep stacks are good players...of course this is a broad generalzation.

In Professional No-Limit Hold 'Em by Flynn, Mehta, and Miller they say ....not only do big stacks not have an edge over small stacks, but often exactly the opposite is true. Sometimes, you can actually gain an advantage merely by buying in short.

I think we know it doesn't help against the shorter stacks but just helps illustrate that short(er) stacks can have an advantage.

This is all dependent of course on the game and in games like HSI with bigger buy ins and button straddles their will be more weaker players with bigger stacks to take advantage of.

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05-17-2013 , 10:08 AM
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An interesting spot. Thoughts?
Villain: played 2 orbits, witnessed him ch/raising river w 2pair w one player, and making a soul read call on another player, wide range, mixes it up well, winning player. STACK is $475 A 10
ME: $600 K 10
Hand: I make it $12 in Hijack and large blind calls. Heads up to the flop of 10 10 8. Villain checks, I bet $15, Villain raises to $40, I call. Turn is 5, Villain bets $50, and I call. River is 3, Villain bets $50 again, I raise to $150. He calls, I lose.
I mull over this hand for the next hour, thinking if I should hv just called river. I was pretty sure Villain didn’t raise this flop on a nut hand like 8 8,10 8. It seemed more in line w 10x. I’m thinking 10J & 10Q are both very possible, maybe same hand 10K, and A10 is very likely as well. 10 9 prob checks river, so not too likely. My thought process was he has 1 out of the 4 hands (10 w face card kicker). I took my chances and raised hoping it’s not A 10. I’m getting called by ALL 4 of those hands, so I think I still would do the same thing.

I personally like raising the turn, a board like this does not have very many combos that best us.

I would assume Vill has (once he leads the turn) T8, T9, JT, QT, KT, AT, 88. So a total of 10 combos that beat us and 12 that we beat and 2 we tie.

And to be honest the more I think about I'm changing my mind as i post. Flat the turn so we keep all his bluffs in as well. On the river, is his sizing consistent with his monsters? If so then I just flat river since there's only 2 additional combos we can get value from. But if he were to bet a full house larger and we can take T8 and 88 out then this is a no brainier raise on the river
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05-18-2013 , 01:20 PM
I think you played K10 perfectly. I have trouble raising river there, but also understand I leave a lot of money on the table with my game. I am starting to realize i am way to cautious. From reading your post I think I need to open it up more. Gl how is the 100 hour min goal going ?
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05-18-2013 , 08:53 PM
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. Gl how is the 100 hour min goal going ?

Started a mini goal on 5/12 to play 100hrs over the next 2 weeks. Here is the Halfway point report. Looks like 52hrs log thus far. The mini goal ends 5/26.
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