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Old 05-04-2016, 07:49 AM   #201
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I was the guy who sat with Tyler yesterday. He calls it coaching. I would say it was more like me giving him some pointers and ideas that maybe he hasn't considered and then observing his play to see if I notice any glaring leaks. We only played together 2 hours and he didnt get into any overly difficult spots but his play was definitely solid. I suspect hes playing a WAY different game than he was last month now that he is in this bad spot bankroll wise.

In his big JJ hand, he was in the cutoff and I was the button. I was going to raise my 45s after the limper but he raised first so I folded. Flop came 344. Damn you Tyler!

Tyler, one thing to work on......make sure you are trying your best to watch every hand (especially every raised pot). I saw a couple times where I picked up something that you didnt see. One guy raised a few times and bet the flop hard when he had something and checked or under bet when he missed. A different guy led out into a preflop raiser twice. You really need to know what a guy has when he does that. Does he lead with a draw? Does he have TPWK? Middle pair?
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:33 AM   #202
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I was the guy who sat with Tyler yesterday. He calls it coaching. I would say it was more like me giving him some pointers and ideas that maybe he hasn't considered and then observing his play to see if I notice any glaring leaks. We only played together 2 hours and he didnt get into any overly difficult spots but his play was definitely solid. I suspect hes playing a WAY different game than he was last month now that he is in this bad spot bankroll wise.

In his big JJ hand, he was in the cutoff and I was the button. I was going to raise my 45s after the limper but he raised first so I folded. Flop came 344. Damn you Tyler!

Tyler, one thing to work on......make sure you are trying your best to watch every hand (especially every raised pot). I saw a couple times where I picked up something that you didnt see. One guy raised a few times and bet the flop hard when he had something and checked or under bet when he missed. A different guy led out into a preflop raiser twice. You really need to know what a guy has when he does that. Does he lead with a draw? Does he have TPWK? Middle pair?
Mike thanks a lot for spending the time with me, looking forward to more of it. I'm heading to Hardrock this morning to fire up a table. Good luck today everyone!
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Old 05-04-2016, 01:07 PM   #203
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I played solid and won $226. The big hand went like this. A new player sat down in seat 7, who seemed competent. He was a younger guy, mid 30's. He was UTG and limped in. MP1, MP2 limped in and I was in the CO and looked down at JJ. I raised to $15. Only the guy in seat 7 called. I was about $180 deep, I thought he only had $80 (red chips and a few white), but he really had two blacks(more like grey) that I didn't see.

Flop ($38) 344 r - he checks, I bet 10, he calls
Turn ($58) 7 - he checks, and I take most of my stack and slide it forward (it was about $120)...
He looks at me and says, "do you realize I have two blacks?" "Why are you so scared? You bet $10 on the flop then $105 on the turn? What the hell?", I didn't say a word, but I really didn't see the blacks (more like grey/white, they were really hard to tell apart from $1 chip). I'm praying he calls me at this point as I know I have him smashed... He did something even better.. He then tanks for about 2 minutes and finally puts me all-in. I snap call and he flips over 55 and he says "man I just leveled myself with you"...
River ($380) K - dealer ships me the pot.

I played for another few orbits and cashed out, +$226 for the session
Tyler, I'm just getting caught up on your thread and I'm rooting for you as well. I play in SoFla too, although not usually that far north. I was at Magic City playing 2/5 last night until 3am, and also play a bit at Gulfstream, Mardi Gras and Hialeah.

With respect to your session above, I'm glad you won, but don't take too much from it. Other than for the idiot who shoved pocket fives into your $100+ overbet on the 3447 board, you were actually close to break even for the session.

Best of luck in your future sessions.
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Old 05-04-2016, 02:01 PM   #204
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Get a joooooob
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Old 05-04-2016, 02:48 PM   #205
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Wow. Great advice. No one has ever recommended this route to me before.

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Old 05-04-2016, 03:03 PM   #206
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Wow. Great advice. No one has ever recommended this route to me before.

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I already assumed you had a job as I just skimmed your thread. My unsolicited 2 cents as a long time grinder-

Having some non poker income makes poker much easier in many ways i.e. takes the pressure off, and helps you rebuild you bankroll much faster.......

And if you get to point of crushing 2/5 with solid roll it is easy and maybe fun to quit your job

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Old 05-04-2016, 04:24 PM   #207
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Wow. Great advice. No one has ever recommended this route to me before.

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LOL. Maybe because it's the best advice in the thread? No one is telling you to give up on poker or the dream of grinding full time. But just do something to give yourself some insurance and some cash on the side. Would probably build your roll even quicker if you didn't have to pay your expenses strictly from your poker roll. You could easily work 20 hours per week and still grind 35-40 hours on the felt.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:47 PM   #208
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LOL. Maybe because it's the best advice in the thread? No one is telling you to give up on poker or the dream of grinding full time. But just do something to give yourself some insurance and some cash on the side. Would probably build your roll even quicker if you didn't have to pay your expenses strictly from your poker roll. You could easily work 20 hours per week and still grind 35-40 hours on the felt.
I totally understand and might go this route... it's a serious consideration of mine right now actually.. I was just giving him a lil **** back I'll make a decision soon

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Old 05-04-2016, 05:44 PM   #209
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oh i see. mikestarrr is your buddy. makes sense now.

if i wanted to give you **** i would have said something really sarcastic.. like sick hourly for that session there bro! thats like over 50$ hour.. totally rad! sustainable long term at 1 /2 if you get choaching all the time
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:51 PM   #210
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I totally understand and might go this route... it's a serious consideration of mine right now actually.. I was just giving him a lil **** back I'll make a decision soon

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Haha all good my man. Best of luck, hope to see you run it up!
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:19 PM   #211
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I really hope you are significantly young (19-20), as per your thread you have some serious growing up to do.

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Old 05-04-2016, 08:09 PM   #212
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How did the guy who approached you know who you are?
Did op know this was you when you posted this? Lol
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:51 PM   #213
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I really hope you are significantly young (19-20), as per your thread you have some serious growing up to do.

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Old 05-04-2016, 09:01 PM   #214
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I feel you op, I am 36 and feel the same way. I feel as young as ever. I made a lot of immature decisions in my twenties and I'm really enjoying my thirties.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:32 PM   #215
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I have read this post top to bottom. I knew the blown bankroll was coming as we all did.
Tyler, you need to view your bankroll as your life blood. If you don't have one, you don't play poker. When you start, nurse it. Play like a nit. Log small win over small win. Don't put yourself in marginal spots. It will kill you!
I agree that Florida is a tough 1/2 game as people buy in uber low and are playing for the promos. That being said, its easy to pick apart and create a constant win rate. Make sure you are sizing up players chip stacks as well.

As for your game after your coaching, I'm surprised at the hands that you still post. With respect to the JJ hand, what was your thinking betting $10 after the flop in position? I read the posts that you put in but you don't give me your mindset pre, post, turn, river. Would love to hear you progress through the hand. This is how we can help plug your leaks.

Last, but not least, I have heard others time and time again tell you to get a job. I know you have ignored this advice because you still talk about paying bills off your very small roll. I cannot emphasize this enough...GET A JOB! You need to carve your roll away from bills to build it up so that you can only have poker as your job. When you are able to stop working and just rely on poker, that is when you will know you "made it" and your game will be so much improved. It is then that you will realize how important your roll is and will never again put it all at risk.

Good luck bro! I will keep watching this post!
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:30 PM   #216
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I don't want too much money on the table. I'm literally hitting and running if the table isn't amazing. I also figured I'm only playing poker if I'm going to play my absolute best. The amount of money I lose or win when I'm even slightly tilted isn't worth the amount of agony or 'good feeling' that it produces. I'd rather be happy with my play and happy when I go home that I played well, not tilted and spewy. My happiness outside of poker is more important than having my win-rate improved by +2bb's/hour by staying at the table when I'm slightly tilted or not playing at my absolute max potential. I don't know how much sense that makes, but basically I'm putting in less hours, but playing those hours with more focus and play good.

I'm keeping my session shorter so I stay more focused. I also don't want people catching on to how tight I am playing. It seems after about 2 hours people are getting frustrated at my NITness and are generally vocal about it (table dependent). Cutting my sessions shorter allows me to reset my image for the most part, start 'fresh', and will make me happier off the table.
Hi Tyler, I'm new to the thread. I'm not sure what other players would say, but when I play either live or online, I assume that I will be playing for awhile (at least 2 or 3 hours, which is not that many hands). This gives me time to assess the players at the table, and set things up for varying strategies on later hands with the same players. If a table is tough, I usually pass, or if I'm forced to play, then stay out of trouble until something else opens up. If you win one or two buyins in the first hour, then you could lock it up and switch tables. But otherwise, if the game if good enough, you should stick around. If you play for 5, 8 or 10 hours, you can't be 100% focused for the whole time, but you still need to be somewhat focused. If you get tilted, then taking a break is probably a good thing.

I can't sit there knowing I will leave in an hour, since it affects how I play my hands. Worrying that if I gamble in a spot, that I won't have time to get my money back if I lose. The whole idea is to allow your edge to be achieved, and usually that takes time over many hands.

As for being nitty, or not, usually it just affects how much action you get, or if you raise and someone says out loud, I should fold this to you etc., then you can take advantage of those situations.

Cheers!
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:41 PM   #217
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Did op know this was you when you posted this? Lol
You are confused. Someone apparently approached Tyler while he was playing. I asked Tyler how the guy knew who he was.

A few days later I met Tyler and played a session with him. We never met before that.

So there are 2 different people helping him out.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:13 AM   #218
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Please don't take this as ragging on you. I just don't understand how you can be at the age you are, with the bankroll you have, and not be stressed out of your ****ing mind/ be willing to gamble.

I mean the older I get/ the longer I play, the more swings affect me. And I play way over rolled
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Old 05-05-2016, 09:09 AM   #219
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Please don't take this as ragging on you. I just don't understand how you can be at the age you are, with the bankroll you have, and not be stressed out of your ****ing mind/ be willing to gamble.

I mean the older I get/ the longer I play, the more swings affect me. And I play way over rolled
I've thought this too at times. Seems much more like the thread for a 21 year old.

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Old 05-06-2016, 02:52 AM   #220
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With respect to the JJ hand, what was your thinking betting $10 after the flop in position?
Indeed. It wasn't to get marginal hands to call, as anything that's calling $10 will call $15-18 too.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:19 AM   #221
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Indeed. It wasn't to get marginal hands to call, as anything that's calling $10 will call $15-18 too.
Right. My thought was $15 pre....then $10 into a $38 pot. That's just a little over a quarter. The turn...he jams for most of $120 on a rainbow board that connects with the 7 only. If someone calls $120 here, they have him beat already 9 times out of 10.

So...entice a call with $10....but jam to get him to fold with what appears to be a blank. I do not understand the thought behind this.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:28 AM   #222
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I was sitting beside him when this hand was played and I know for a fact the preflop raise was $12, not $10. I told him I was about to raise preflop with 54s but folded when he raised. He commented that I almost called, and I said I wasnt about to call and that I wouldnt call a 6BB raise with 54s which is how I remember the amount so clearly.

Cant remember the flop bet but if it was only $10 I wouldve said something to him about it since its too low. I think maybe his memory is fuzzy on the details of that hand.
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Old 05-08-2016, 02:49 PM   #223
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Old 05-08-2016, 09:28 PM   #224
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No posts=busto?
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Old 05-08-2016, 09:50 PM   #225
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Op i remember when i blew 7k in atlantic city one night, it really sucks, but id like to hear your story of how you lost the 8k.
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