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04-28-2018 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by meale
Even if that's the case, wouldn't we want our junkier 3bets to have slightly better playability? Like 25s/26s etc? Also how can one guage an LP fold23bet stat in a zone format? Certainly population isn't folding this much overall...
It's a bad 3bet

kind of whatever -- 3bet whatever you want if someone is overfolding, just make it polarized.
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04-28-2018 , 07:02 AM
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AA river bluff, I mentioned it in YT comments but I will here as well... I think in practice you're probably just value betting river yourself when SB checks to you. For that reason I don't think you get 6x or any flushes (i.e. entire BTN range) to fold - because yeah you rep really strong but it's also pretty unlikely you take this line with much. Having Ah removal isn't too relevant here I don't think. Nice ballz tho.
Actually it makes more sense to check river. Button overcall in these spots are always pretty strong (obviously on ignition idiots overcall as well but majority of the time it should be strong so it would make sense for me to check raise my really strong holdings). I wasn't trying to fold out 65s and 55 if they have it. Just lower grade flushes and 6x. I guess this time it just didn't work.

Yeah 33 is probably better used as a 3b from Sb vs BTN as opposed to BB vs CO. 22-66 at high stakes are usually considered to be the 'junk' that we triple off on range advantage boards. Honestly you can construct your 3b range the way you want to. It just needs to be somewhat balanced (with bluffs/value) and ensure its consistent. For example if you want to use 26s make sure you do it always at the same % frequency. If you don't want to sit there with RNG open then use the suits like only use 2h6h or something. Personally I don't think those types of hands perform better than 22-66 because we always have the raw equity and if you know how to leverage your range on certain boards it works better. Also know what your post flop ranges look like so that you aren't over tripling etc (this is something I am definitely guilty of).

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and 88 in the previous video is a check back on turn.
Yeah instinctively you can see me auto check but I guess I got too greedy (ignition bias for the lose) ...

Last edited by skuzlad; 04-28-2018 at 07:09 AM.
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04-28-2018 , 07:04 AM
you shouldn't be 3bing 33 100% in sb vs btn either (unless they are overfolding/under4bing/suck post/etc.)

@skuzlad, you see they got 500z now ?
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04-28-2018 , 07:18 AM
Day 47/60

Here is the graph for day 47:



Another average day. Couldn't really get things going. Thought I played quite well rating myself pretty highly on my session reflection.

Overall Progress:

Winrate: 5.52bb/100
Hands: 91,800/100,000
Donation to Charity Count: $19 - been pretty ill disciplined with my rants...
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04-28-2018 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
you shouldn't be 3bing 33 100% in sb vs btn either (unless they are overfolding/under4bing/suck post/etc.)

@skuzlad, you see they got 500z now ?
oh no, not 3b 100% that would be pretty suicidal. I actually had RNG up that session and set to 1/4.

Yeah I saw the 500z. In the morning when I saw it, the pool wasn't very busy though :/
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04-29-2018 , 12:27 AM
New video for day 47 out here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6A...ature=youtu.be
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04-29-2018 , 12:53 AM
Day 48/60

Here is the graph for day 48:



Short session but pretty good. Nice confidence boost to win two buyins.

Overall Progress:

Winrate: 5.71bb/100
Hands: 92,766/100,000
Donation to Charity Count: $19
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04-30-2018 , 02:35 AM
Day 49/60

Here is the graph for Day 49:



Very similar to the previous day. Low volume and a couple of buyins. I find it very difficult to get quite a lot of volume in over the weekend. Probably because all my friends have the weekend off from their 9 to 5 grind.

Only a couple of days to go now before I complete the 100k hands!!!

Overall Progress:

Winrate: 5.95bb/100
Hands: 93,669/100,000
Donation to Charity count: $20 - sent a screen shot of me losing to a fish on reg tables....


Video will be out tomorrow. Will be highlights of these two small volume days 48 & 49.
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04-30-2018 , 09:20 AM
whoa @ that $14.88 bet
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04-30-2018 , 09:25 AM
anyway on Day 47, there's a hand where you have JTs and 3bet, and get called in two spots. flop is Q93 and you say "obviously got range advantage..." - can you unpack this a bit for me? its sort of a concept I'm trying to wrap my head around - don't the callers have a lot of the AQ, 99, and 33 here, while you've got the AKs that missed? or are you referring to the fact that you've got the AA-QQ on this board?
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04-30-2018 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Beat Bill
anyway on Day 47, there's a hand where you have JTs and 3bet, and get called in two spots. flop is Q93 and you say "obviously got range advantage..." - can you unpack this a bit for me? its sort of a concept I'm trying to wrap my head around - don't the callers have a lot of the AQ, 99, and 33 here, while you've got the AKs that missed? or are you referring to the fact that you've got the AA-QQ on this board?
So when we 3b yes we can have a lot of hands but when we bet on this board it should be narrowed down. Betting into 3 is quite strong. I would only bluff here with equity. I would definitely not choose to bluff with AK in this spot.

Therefore my bluff hands would be K10s,j10s 109s (hands similar to this) and value hands would be 99 AQ AA KK QQ. Yes the caller will have more 33 and Q9s than us but the fact that we have AA KK and QQ should be enough combos so that we are favourite on this board. When our range has more value than villain, then we can widen how many bluffs we have. Best way to think about these spots is to count the number of value combos of your range vs villain's range. Then you can decide who has advantage on certain boards.

Hope this helps - wrote this quite quickly so if it needs clarification let me know
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05-01-2018 , 05:39 AM
Day 50/60

Here is the graph for day 50:



Despite having a positive day, day 50 was an extremely frustrating day. I kept getting coolered in super standard preflop spots. Then again my concentration and focus was off because I was watching the Party Poker high stakes PLO whilst grinding (definitely something I shouldn't be doing when playing and probably deserving of the coolers). According to my mental review after the game, I didn't tilt or struggle mentally - probably because I was watching Matt Kirk run awfully which made me feel better about the situations I was being spotted.

(As of writing this post) I will complete my 100k hands tomorrow so I am pretty excited! Hopefully on my last day (Day 52) I get some run good to finish off the challenge strong.

Overall Progress:

Winrate: 6.07bb/100
Hands: 96,240/100,000
Donation to Charity Count: $20


ALSO forgot to mention Day 48&49 Video out now


Check it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g16JMe8ID5Q

Day 50 video will be out tomorrow morning (AEST)
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05-01-2018 , 06:00 AM
interesting hand that you didnt cover, last qjss hand on rh table you raise turn with A2dd when you turn extra extra with gs.....seemed pretty weird to raise turn
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05-01-2018 , 02:37 PM
Good luck! You ever consider just going all in preflop every hand the whole session hoping to luckbox that goal?

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05-01-2018 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by max85
interesting hand that you didnt cover, last qjss hand on rh table you raise turn with A2dd when you turn extra extra with gs.....seemed pretty weird to raise turn
Without giving too much away why I do this (Hint - Doug Polk/Scott Seiver), but fish donked into 3b aggressor two streets.


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Good luck! You ever consider just going all in preflop every hand the whole session hoping to luckbox that goal?
Have you not seen my videos?! I have been luckboxing poker my whole life!
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05-01-2018 , 07:19 PM
1:30 turn xr seems like a really bizarre line, if I'm Villain I'm just b/f basically any non-flush hand at that point due to how hard it is for BB to have bluffs in this scenario, so it seems like it would be a lot better to keep his range open. (Although tbf I don't expect a lot of river bluffs from V since he can't rep much after flop xb.)

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interesting hand that you didnt cover, last qjss hand on rh table you raise turn with A2dd when you turn extra extra with gs.....seemed pretty weird to raise turn
fish donking into us in 3bp and continues turn for 33% size, I think Hero's turn play makes a lot of sense. No clue what Doug Polk/Scott Seiver has to do with that hand lol.
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05-02-2018 , 07:29 AM
Day 51/60

Here is the graph for day 51:



Couldn't get much going. Quite happy that I completed the 4 hours despite having a ton of non poker stuff that needed to be done during the day.

Overall Progress:

Winrate: 5.83bb/100
Hands: 98,349/100,000
Donation to Charity Count: $22


Forgot to mention video is out for day 50:

Check it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3FTqDm8so&t=25s
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05-02-2018 , 09:36 PM
New video for day 51 out now!

Check it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TMudyl5HGk
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05-03-2018 , 04:58 AM
That quads hand where you stacked the vil with the boat was pretty sick, but pretty sure you have to bet the turn there at least like 1/3 pot to be profitable in the long term.
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05-03-2018 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pokrr
That quads hand where you stacked the vil with the boat was pretty sick, but pretty sure you have to bet the turn there at least like 1/3 pot to be profitable in the long term.
Yeah I agree, looking back on it, I think betting turn is better as well.
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05-03-2018 , 05:11 AM
Day 52/60

Here is the graph for day 52:



Finally completed 100k hands!!!!! Went over by a few hundred but whatever. Pretty unfortunate way to end the 100k hand challenge with a huge downswing session. I guess it is poetic in a way - Started with a bad losing day and end with a losing day.

Overall Progress:

Winrate: 5.03bb/100
Hands: 100,710
Donation to Charity Count: $25


Pretty disappointed that I ended with a 5bb/100 winrate. Was expecting 6-8bb (realistically). I will write a full review and post graphs and other interesting statistics tomorrow. Finishing the video edit now so I will post that tomorrow as well.

Spent the whole day doing study today - focused on preflop. I will probably be in the lab (for both poker and youtube) for the next 2 weeks. Will also be going up to Noosa for 5 days next Wednesday.

Anyway I will do a full review/ write up tomorrow
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05-03-2018 , 05:37 AM
wp, 5bb is nothing to scoff at - doesn't make sense to "expect 6-8bb" over such a tiny sample tbh. 100k hands is a drop in the ocean.

What's next for you?
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05-03-2018 , 04:17 PM
little nitpick, on that first 99 hand you say there's "98 suited". but with the 9c and 9s in your hand plus the 9d and 8h on board there isn't one. AHA!! gotcha

sort of a general question - sometimes you say things like "this is sometimes a raise" or "I bet this with some frequency"...isn't there no reason for such distinctions on an anon site? If you 4bet A4s every time, who's gonna know? It sounds like you're used to playing a solid, balanced strategy, but doesn't the nature of Ignition (especially Zone) kind of make that unnecessary?
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05-03-2018 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Beat Bill

sort of a general question - sometimes you say things like "this is sometimes a raise" or "I bet this with some frequency"...isn't there no reason for such distinctions on an anon site? If you 4bet A4s every time, who's gonna know? It sounds like you're used to playing a solid, balanced strategy, but doesn't the nature of Ignition (especially Zone) kind of make that unnecessary?
arguably no, because you don't know what frequencies your opponents are playing at, so they may "unintentionally" exploit you
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05-03-2018 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
arguably no, because you don't know what frequencies your opponents are playing at, so they may "unintentionally" exploit you
our opponent's strategy is just the average of all the strategies in the pool, so why would/should our response to this strategy involve using mixed strategies?
In general we should be using mixed strategies to maintain balance against specific opponents who we expect to be balanced.
The Zone pool is not a specific opponent, it's an unbalanced monolith. Just because we may not know specifically where the "unbalalances" lie, doesn't make the pool "balanced."
Idk just throwing some ideas around
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