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Old 07-25-2013, 04:59 AM   #176
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:06 AM   #177
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:29 AM   #178
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Who needs solid brm when I have a good feeling:

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Old 07-25-2013, 05:29 AM   #179
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UL with the $1k's don't stress about it. You'll get the volume in at that level at some stage.

But a quick question.

In the K9 hand what were you trying to achieve with the river bet?

I guess you were trying to make your bet look like a bluff trying to push him off his 7?
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:44 AM   #180
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UL with the $1k's don't stress about it. You'll get the volume in at that level at some stage.

But a quick question.

In the K9 hand what were you trying to achieve with the river bet?

I guess you were trying to make your bet look like a bluff trying to push him off his 7?
He had been floating c-bet a ton and rarely raising them so when he floats flop I expect his range to be super wide, basically any overs, plus even some stuff with backdoor draws + overs like 69hh or something. as well as some 3x and maybe even some top pair with OC like T7 or something. I'm pretty sure at this point he knows I'm not just a braindead fish (despite completely butchering one hand, jam K4 on AA4 over small c-bet at like 17bb) so I think he will deduce I'm just a lower stakes reg (esp if he ssed me). So he will know I'm aware of what boards to barrel at and he has seen me barrel them before so can happily just call me down. On turn he probably suspects I'm going to be betting its a ton so my range is still wide open and lots of river cards that he think I will perceive as good to barrel into what looks like a fair weak range for him. River comes and it's not the nut barreling card but one that I'm going to be barreling a decent % so I expect him to c/c fairly wide here and for all the reason stated I think this is a good hand to have in value range since I'm pretty sure he expects me to barrel off alot (but expects me to miss thinner value) so when i jam he should expect strong hands + bluffs, since I have way more bluffs than strong hands he has to call off pretty light so I add K9 into value range.

Or in fewer words, bet river for value.

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Old 07-25-2013, 05:45 AM   #181
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:53 AM   #182
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how many games did you play vs him and what do you think about his turn call
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:11 AM   #183
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how many games did you play vs him and what do you think about his turn call
played 12 v him ($200s to $1ks), won 6 each and I lost 2.4k, lol, ran like utter **** at highest BIs.

I don't think his turn call is particularly good tbh. Even if he has 6 clean outs he barely has the implied odds, then bearing into account the reverse implied odds (like when i have two pair, 8T, KQ+, AJ+) he is going to be losing money alot in that spot. Only reasoning of his I can think of for that is he expects me to be checking back hands like AJ, AQ ott so he feels he is good a decent amount of time when I check since alot of weak hands he is behind try to realise equity/get to sd. Then he may also expect me to be overly aggro on overcards and shut down with alot of bluff like T8, JT on undercards so he can take his hand to sd on low cards and get value when he makes a pair. I think he had seen me just give up a few boards as well on undercards (although happened to have the c/f part of my range there, it's not like I'm not going to understand when it i good, but he probably doesn't expect that of me) so I guess if he feels those conditions are met his can justify calling.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:24 AM   #184
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Ughhhhh sorry to see this mate, you will grind it back np but i can imagine its demoralising. gllllll.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:41 AM   #185
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Ughhhhh sorry to see this mate, you will grind it back np but i can imagine its demoralising. gllllll.
Cheers, yea sorta crushing to lose so much but just gotta think when I go for 10k matches next month if I can earn $1/game I'll have earned that ev of the money I lost back in like 8 days or so it's not disastrous really. Also hopefully act as good motivation to grind as hard as possible and get that money back. If in future I remind myself of that and tell myself I have to grind an extra hour every time I think I'm done for the day then in 80 days I will have actually profited from them. What's happened has happened, just gotta accept it and try to best utilise the experience.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:27 AM   #186
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Sorry if I missed it, but is there a reason you were playing $200s to $1000 ?
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:32 AM   #187
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First of all nice stories from high staked and love the gifs!

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I think august could be my most interesting month ever If everything goes as planned I'm going to be betting my 3k v 3k of two bettors that I can play 10k games in august. This will be huge for me since my biggest month is not even 3k games and my biggest day is 217 games (I think). For the bet I'm going to have to play 323 games/day, every day, for 31 days, will take an absolutely sick effort. So for rest of this month I think I'm going to have one day where I aim for 400 games just to get a feel for what it's like to play that sort of volume in a day and then spend the rest of the time really brushing up on my game, checking all my pre flop shoving/callnig ranges and thinking about spots alot more. Given how brutal the month will be I want as high a roi as possible so I don't have to deal with huge swings on top of the mental strain I'm already putting myself through.
This is too easy imo. Well, not saying it's 'easy' and not saying I could/would do it but is very doable if you put your mind to it. You need to have some kind of ROI you must attain imo and some rules about what BIs you are allowed to play at. Then I may be interested...

Otherwise you could for example 3-4 table $7s-$30s, get constant action, get nice table profit and nice profit from the bet.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:54 AM   #188
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Sorry if I missed it, but is there a reason you were playing $200s to $1000 ?
I had 400 in my account so was trying to reverse martingale up to 1ks (win and move up), made it, won the 1k, thought that was epic, need to play another, lost, tried to reverse martingale a few more times, kept losing near the final hurdle decide to just sit the 1ks outright so transferred 2k across from pokerstars and lost that money as well.

So other than ******edness, no there was no reason I was playing them.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:06 AM   #189
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First of all nice stories from high staked and love the gifs!



This is too easy imo. Well, not saying it's 'easy' and not saying I could/would do it but is very doable if you put your mind to it. You need to have some kind of ROI you must attain imo and some rules about what BIs you are allowed to play at. Then I may be interested...

Otherwise you could for example 3-4 table $7s-$30s, get constant action, get nice table profit and nice profit from the bet.
I'd agree it would be fairly easy for some, but atm i rarely 3 table so it means I'm going to be playing 10+ hours each day which is so hard when I have never even attempted that sort of thing. Also I am having rule wrt BI, every game has to be played at $30s+. I don't think I'll put a profit clause in though, already going to be an insanely stressful month so don't want to put all that volume in then lose the bet cos I ran bad or end up having to 6 table, play bad, lose money and lost the bet.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:26 AM   #190
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I would probably flat Q9/Q7 at that stage in the game (no particular dynamics since it was 1st game iirc) because I expect you to perceive my range as weak and just 3 barrel a ton because I have a hard time calling down with 9x/7x. Like in your shoes with a hand like T3o I think you should be betting the turn like 90-95 and jamming a ton of rivers as well as Ax and hands like QJ anyway so I think just letting you barrel off would be best with all my value hands.
In that case my call was a mistake

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Someone said on skype today that they are not going to look at results for a week so it made me decide that this week (until sunday night) I am going to turn ev off and not look at it no matter what. I have become way too fixated on that line and have even started refreshing after every game, I think a $1.50 player currently has less mental leaks than me lol,



If he calls pot will be t1000 and he has to call t220 chips. 220/1000*100 = 22%
I sort of have this leak also, although not quite in the same league as you checking every few minutes. I usually check like every 10 games or so, and find myself tilted if my EV has gone down, or if I keep getting coolered. I think all HU Hyper players are the same, we're fine with bad beats and w/e, but as soon as that EV starts dropping we're furious Fortunately i've become a lot better recently.
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:28 AM   #191
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I'd agree it would be fairly easy for some, but atm i rarely 3 table so it means I'm going to be playing 10+ hours each day which is so hard when I have never even attempted that sort of thing. Also I am having rule wrt BI, every game has to be played at $30s+. I don't think I'll put a profit clause in though, already going to be an insanely stressful month so don't want to put all that volume in then lose the bet cos I ran bad or end up having to 6 table, play bad, lose money and lost the bet.
freech wanna book some side action ? i think its gonna be insanely tough considering your biggest day is 217 games, would be very impressive.
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:48 PM   #192
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Hey, Im trying to figure out an answer to this question, first hand of hu hyper, you have 46o oop vs a minraise. What is your standard? If you call, what flops r u continuing with and in what way do you continue?

I dabble some hu hypers sometimes and find this type of hand very hard to profit, but the best players seem to be playing so much oop so wondering how you handle this hand?

thanks, best of luck
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:28 PM   #193
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Hey, Im trying to figure out an answer to this question, first hand of hu hyper, you have 46o oop vs a minraise. What is your standard? If you call, what flops r u continuing with and in what way do you continue?

I dabble some hu hypers sometimes and find this type of hand very hard to profit, but the best players seem to be playing so much oop so wondering how you handle this hand?

thanks, best of luck
Readless I'm almost always calling pre. Can't really say how I continue since there are so many different flops but to give you a general idea I'm probably continuing on like 70% of flops though so I'm not particularly reliant on flopping a hand.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:34 PM   #194
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U can also profitably 3bet against the general population fwiw
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:16 PM   #195
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freech wanna book some side action ? i think its gonna be insanely tough considering your biggest day is 217 games, would be very impressive.
I wanna wait until sumin more official is written up and see what the exact rules are but maybe
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:26 PM   #196
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I wanna wait until sumin more official is written up and see what the exact rules are but maybe
I have written a preliminary draft up and sent to tom and jimmy, once they come online and agree I'll send it to you on skype as well.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:03 PM   #197
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Last weeks play since i have had the ev off (filtered for just $30s, I dont want to include them 1k games lol, they make me sad). Feel like I've just been crushing $30s this month despite playing a decent amount of regs. Pretty pumped upped going into next month and the 10k challenge, Would be so awesome if I could manage to make 10k in game. I worked it out and if I can do that + win the bet + extra rb I would make around 15k in august, so those 1ks will look just like a minor blip on my graph lol. Then I'll be moving $60s in september and that month will probably be reg packed, be interesting to take on some good $60s regs though.


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Old 07-29-2013, 09:07 PM   #198
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Month is as good as done, probably won't play much on 30th/31st, just gonna chill out and try and solidify some ranges, I do way too much guessing in end game so should probably check some things rather than thinking doing this is probably good. Also lost my chat again, so ridiculous, had it back for like 10 days and lose it for another month.

Anyway month at $30s (pretty crushing ):

[img]http://s7.************/by0w2xh6z/30s.png[/img]
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Month completely unfiltered (some MTTs and some high stakes gone wrong):

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Old 07-30-2013, 10:26 AM   #199
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You can't lose what you don't put in the middle. But you can't win much either.
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Not going to be updating this thread for the next month, going to write most of my stuff in this thread:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...ugust-1357330/
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