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Old 07-07-2013, 07:40 PM   #151
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Also gonna offer freeroll to first person who quotes this post, if I don't play 200 games (record in a day is 211, lol) tomorrow I will give away $100*. My volume has been appalling recently and maybe if I start risking losing $100 every time I play bad volume I might actually start to play, hopefully.

*Barring exceptional circumstance, will only send on stars.
hey man gl!

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btw very nice ev graph
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:53 PM   #152
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Just about made 200 games (had to like 3 table for the last 3 hours though cos I left it pretty late) made it with about 8 minutes to spare lol. Pretty bad day though,just couldnt get that ev going up and made some pretty suspect plays/

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Old 07-09-2013, 07:31 PM   #153
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Pretty good day today, far better than the previous day. Last 82 games were v a reg who I agreed to play 250 games against two tabling over today and tomorrow. So tomorrow we should complete it, I'm a pretty nice amount in that so far so hopefully maintain a decent wr.

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:52 PM   #154
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Got record amount of games today which was pretty nice and 168 of them were v the reg I was playing for 250 games, month has been awesome so far as well, already up like $2500 ev and 2k actual.

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Old 07-11-2013, 12:09 AM   #155
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Awesome graphs men!
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:39 PM   #156
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Awesome graphs men!
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Given I've played an insignificant amounts of hands recently I'll post my last 3.6k games graph, since start of aprilish. Also think I'll be moving to $60 soon, feeling very good about my game atm and I need the vpps. Kinda hard to motivate yourself to when you are just printing money at the $30s though.

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Old 07-15-2013, 02:21 PM   #157
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Hit a pretty bad stretch against two mega fish who I just couldn't beat and ev just wouldn't go up. Hopefully have less of that today.

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Old 07-17-2013, 10:15 PM   #158
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Pretty awful few days. Started to sit a load of regs because I didn't want to bother with the queues and just ran terribly. Still it's better than just waiting in line though. Also decided that I'm gonna move up to $60s around start of august. I need vpps to make supernova so I'm fine with playing all the regs at the start + those games are always interesting. Also massively ove-rrolled for $30s atm so should be fine with absorbing a big downswing when i move up with so soon is as good a time as any I guess.

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Also what I thought was a fun hand (ambitous as ever), could've done with FD hitting river but I really don't think villain is good even close to 22% of the time here so without reads that I'm capable of doing this I think it is a pretty bad call:

PokerStars - $29.37+$0.63|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
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Wrig90 (SB): 500
BlueNowhere4 (BB): 500

Wrig90 posts SB 10, BlueNowhere4 posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) BlueNowhere4 has K 7

Wrig90 raises to 40, BlueNowhere4 calls 20

Flop: (80, 2 players) 9 A 7
BlueNowhere4 checks, Wrig90 bets 40, BlueNowhere4 calls 40

Turn: (160, 2 players) Q
BlueNowhere4 checks, Wrig90 bets 80, BlueNowhere4 calls 80

River: (320, 2 players) 5
BlueNowhere4 checks, Wrig90 bets 120, BlueNowhere4 raises to 340 and is all-in, Wrig90 calls 220 and is all-in

BlueNowhere4 shows K 7 (One Pair, Sevens) (Pre 40%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
Wrig90 shows 4 A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 60%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:47 AM   #159
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Re: shooting for the high stakes (HU hypers - from $15s to $1000s)

Inspirational **** bruh. I play 30s too and I think you're my hero.

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Old 07-18-2013, 10:36 AM   #160
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Hey, that hand was vs me I remember it well haha. Imo it was very close between a call and a fold in game, doing some proper analysis on it could prove otherwise however. I knew you were a reg and had also been playing a lot of regs recently, so figured you were very capable of turning made hands/missed draws into a bluff, and also that you didn't have many Ax in your range. That being said I put you on 68, 95 and some 75 hands value wise, and missed draws / random hands that lost their SD value when I 3 barrelled, which basically turned my Ax into a bluffcatcher and since the odds were fairly good I thought it was a +EV call. FWIW if the flushdraw completed on the river i'd have folded every time.

Just done some really quick maths on the situation, according to the value range I gave you (Whether that's right or wrong is another case ) you have 34 combinations. Bluffwise you have just over 100 combinations of 7x and straightdraws, which isn't even counting your flushdraws. Obviously i'm not expecting you to be doing this every time with your missed draws and 7x hands but even if you're only doing it 15% of the time it's a +EV call.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:52 AM   #161
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Inspirational **** bruh. I play 30s too and I think you're my hero.

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Yea I see you sometimes in lobbies, ty

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Hey, that hand was vs me I remember it well haha. Imo it was very close between a call and a fold in game, doing some proper analysis on it could prove otherwise however. I knew you were a reg and had also been playing a lot of regs recently, so figured you were very capable of turning made hands/missed draws into a bluff, and also that you didn't have many Ax in your range. That being said I put you on 68, 95 and some 75 hands value wise, and missed draws / random hands that lost their SD value when I 3 barrelled, which basically turned my Ax into a bluffcatcher and since the odds were fairly good I thought it was a +EV call. FWIW if the flushdraw completed on the river i'd have folded every time.

Just done some really quick maths on the situation, according to the value range I gave you (Whether that's right or wrong is another case ) you have 34 combinations. Bluffwise you have just over 100 combinations of 7x and straightdraws, which isn't even counting your flushdraws. Obviously i'm not expecting you to be doing this every time with your missed draws and 7x hands but even if you're only doing it 15% of the time it's a +EV call.
Using that logic you would also be even happier calling with Q6? In fact using those assumptions Q6 is easy bet/call (blockers to way more of my value range than A4) but I don't think you would be calling that (could be wrong though). Certainly a lot of regs seem to have a huge disconnect in logic for calling A4 here and how they play Q6.

I think you are also missing Q9, Q7 from the value range you gave me. I'm still pretty sure I'm not gonna be bluff jamming river enough for you to call though. Definitely not 22% of my river jamming range is going to be composed of bluffs.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:40 AM   #162
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Yes in this situation Qx is pretty much the exact same as Ax and theoretically I would play it the same, whether I figure that out in my head in game is another matter though Q9 and Q7 i'd have expected a turn raise from, but if they are in your range for playing like this then I made a mistake with the river call as that adds like 18 combinations to your value range and makes it so you need to be bluff-shoving this river with about 25% of your air / weak SD hands for it to be a profitable call, which I wouldn't expect you to be doing. However when a lot of straight draws and flushdraws missed on the river, you have a large amount of complete air in your range on the river, and i'd expect any reg to be bluffing with some of this. Taking into account my original value range assigned to you, when you only need to be bluffing with 15% of your air range for it to be a profitable call, i'd say the call is close, but ultimately fine. Obviously if you add in Q9 / Q7 to your value range it because a fairly clear fold.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:06 PM   #163
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Been wasting too much time play like 1-2 tables micromillions instead of grinding properly last few days. Such a timewaster but I'm drawn to the possibility of binking 5 figs+ lol. Also finally got ev to start going back up again which makes me feel slightly better. Also finally got my chat back It has been a long month without that. Really hoping I don't get another 1 month ban again because playing is nowhere near as fun without chat.

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Yes in this situation Qx is pretty much the exact same as Ax and theoretically I would play it the same, whether I figure that out in my head in game is another matter though Q9 and Q7 i'd have expected a turn raise from, but if they are in your range for playing like this then I made a mistake with the river call as that adds like 18 combinations to your value range and makes it so you need to be bluff-shoving this river with about 25% of your air / weak SD hands for it to be a profitable call, which I wouldn't expect you to be doing. However when a lot of straight draws and flushdraws missed on the river, you have a large amount of complete air in your range on the river, and i'd expect any reg to be bluffing with some of this. Taking into account my original value range assigned to you, when you only need to be bluffing with 15% of your air range for it to be a profitable call, i'd say the call is close, but ultimately fine. Obviously if you add in Q9 / Q7 to your value range it because a fairly clear fold.
I would probably flat Q9/Q7 at that stage in the game (no particular dynamics since it was 1st game iirc) because I expect you to perceive my range as weak and just 3 barrel a ton because I have a hard time calling down with 9x/7x. Like in your shoes with a hand like T3o I think you should be betting the turn like 90-95 and jamming a ton of rivers as well as Ax and hands like QJ anyway so I think just letting you barrel off would be best with all my value hands.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:23 PM   #164
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Last two days have been pretty bad, just can't get that ev to go up anymore. Still think for the most part I'm not playing too badly. Although my left button decided not to work today so at one point had 4 tables up whilst trying to use the touchpad to click was ridic hard so just gonna 1-2 table till I get my laptop repaired.Also with two months left till I go back to Uni I've decided I'm really going to make an effort to put volume and work into my game, stop just playing a few hours a day and go for 200+ games every day and try and fit a good amount of out of game work in, something which I've never really done but if I want to move as high as I can I will need to do it and now is as good a time as any.

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that turn call tilted me pretty hard.

PokerStars - $29.37+$0.63|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
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SB: 430
Hero (BB): 570

SB posts SB 10, Hero posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has 7 4

SB calls 10, Hero checks

Flop: (40, 2 players) T 5 6
Hero bets 30, SB raises to 60, Hero calls 30

Turn: (160, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, SB bets 80, Hero raises to 490 and is all-in, SB calls 270 and is all-in

River: (860, 2 players) Q

Hero shows 7 4 (One Pair, Fives) (Pre 38%, Flop 30%, Turn 18%)
SB shows 7 6 (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives) (Pre 62%, Flop 70%, Turn 82%)
SB wins 860

Could maybe fold the river, a good few hands (straight + gutshots made pair, but i don't expect the pair hands to go for value which was one of reasons why I called) got there but I'm a station and like clicking call.

PokerStars - $29.37+$0.63|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
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Hero (SB): 500
BB: 500

Hero posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has A 9

Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80, 2 players) 2 7 3
BB checks, Hero bets 35, BB raises to 80, Hero calls 45

Turn: (240, 2 players) K
BB bets 90, Hero calls 90

River: (420, 2 players) 6
BB bets 290 and is all-in, Hero calls 290 and is all-in

BB shows 6 4 (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 39%, Flop 39%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows A 9 (High Card, Ace) (Pre 61%, Flop 61%, Turn 77%)
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:54 PM   #165
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Also what I thought was a fun hand (ambitous as ever), could've done with FD hitting river but I really don't think villain is good even close to 22% of the time here so without reads that I'm capable of doing this I think it is a pretty bad call:


Was browsing through and saw the hand above.. I don't know if it's because it's late and I'm tired and being a ******, but I'm struggling to figure where this 22% come from?
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:35 PM   #166
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Someone said on skype today that they are not going to look at results for a week so it made me decide that this week (until sunday night) I am going to turn ev off and not look at it no matter what. I have become way too fixated on that line and have even started refreshing after every game, I think a $1.50 player currently has less mental leaks than me lol,

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Was browsing through and saw the hand above.. I don't know if it's because it's late and I'm tired and being a ******, but I'm struggling to figure where this 22% come from?
If he calls pot will be t1000 and he has to call t220 chips. 220/1000*100 = 22%
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:46 PM   #167
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What a good idea. I wonder what genius thought of that?
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:50 PM   #168
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Just played a session with the ev line hidden and even though I'm pretty sure I lost ev it was one of the least stressful sessions I've played in a long time. Usually I am just refreshing it every few mins and getting really tilted whenever it drops a bit. I don't know when I picked this habit up but I think it is excpetionally bad thing to do. Not having the option to look just makes me get on with it.

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What a good idea. I wonder what sort of weak mental player thought of that?
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:39 AM   #169
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If he calls pot will be t1000 and he has to call t220 chips. 220/1000*100 = 22%
Ah! lol so I am ******ed. cheers


I tend to look at my ev a lot more often when I'm losing to satisfy myself, but tends to tilt me even more when I see it going down vs a huge fish.

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Old 07-23-2013, 07:58 AM   #170
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Just played a session with the ev line hidden and even though I'm pretty sure I lost ev it was one of the least stressful sessions I've played in a long time. Usually I am just refreshing it every few mins and getting really tilted whenever it drops a bit. I don't know when I picked this habit up but I think it is excpetionally bad thing to do. Not having the option to look just makes me get on with it.
I started playing hu hypers as well and started a challenge yesterday. I have the same problem as yours, altough yesterday I made it a point that I will not look at my EV graph during my grinding session. This has always been my primary reason for tilting and if I can give any advice, just don't look at your graph at all, if possible don't even look at your graph before next 2+2 update.

Just my 2cents. Good luck for your challenge man, have always been following your thread since the start and you are such an inspiration for me. Keep crushing!
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:30 PM   #171
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I can't believe how much easier I'm finding grinding with the ev line switched off. Actually enjoying grinding way more with it off. I'm on 2k games for month so really going to try and dial up my volume and finish with at least 3k games by end of month and shoot for 6k games in august.

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Ah! lol so I am ******ed. cheers


I tend to look at my ev a lot more often when I'm losing to satisfy myself, but tends to tilt me even more when I see it going down vs a huge fish.

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I think I feel more tilted when it goes down v reg than fish. At least v fish I know they are ba whereas v reg I start to question my own strategy way too much and start feeling not sure about how I'm playing.

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I started playing hu hypers as well and started a challenge yesterday. I have the same problem as yours, altough yesterday I made it a point that I will not look at my EV graph during my grinding session. This has always been my primary reason for tilting and if I can give any advice, just don't look at your graph at all, if possible don't even look at your graph before next 2+2 update.

Just my 2cents. Good luck for your challenge man, have always been following your thread since the start and you are such an inspiration for me. Keep crushing!
I find it's fine if I look at my graph, it only becomes an issue when I have the ev line there. Like if I drop $500 but win $200 ev I'm generally fine. If I BE and lose $200 I just feel insanely tilted. Only looknig at ev weekly is going to be so much better.

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An interesting hand as well:


PokerStars - $29.37+$0.63|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

mrcoffee01 (BB): 540
BlueNowhere4 (SB): 460

BlueNowhere4 posts SB 10, mrcoffee01 posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) BlueNowhere4 has 7 3

BlueNowhere4 calls 10, mrcoffee01 checks

Flop: (40, 2 players) 4 2 6
mrcoffee01 bets 30, BlueNowhere4 calls 30

Turn: (100, 2 players) 8
mrcoffee01 bets 50, BlueNowhere4 raises to 120, mrcoffee01 calls 70

River: (340, 2 players) K
mrcoffee01 checks, BlueNowhere4 bets 290 and is all-in, fold

BlueNowhere4 wins 340
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:19 AM   #172
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I think august could be my most interesting month ever If everything goes as planned I'm going to be betting my 3k v 3k of two bettors that I can play 10k games in august. This will be huge for me since my biggest month is not even 3k games and my biggest day is 217 games (I think). For the bet I'm going to have to play 323 games/day, every day, for 31 days, will take an absolutely sick effort. So for rest of this month I think I'm going to have one day where I aim for 400 games just to get a feel for what it's like to play that sort of volume in a day and then spend the rest of the time really brushing up on my game, checking all my pre flop shoving/callnig ranges and thinking about spots alot more. Given how brutal the month will be I want as high a roi as possible so I don't have to deal with huge swings on top of the mental strain I'm already putting myself through.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:40 AM   #173
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Im not an expert in propbetting but I think you should look for better odds than 1:1 here.....
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:50 AM   #174
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Its so hard to resist not to look at the EV line lol.
Btw easy ship 3k if there is no must win pre rakeback or smt involved
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:54 AM   #175
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Well I guess I can say made it to $1000s.

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**** me, that run is just so ****ing brutal, too sick and tilted. 10am, not been to bed yet and doubt I'll be sleeping wit that.

lol, 3 ****ing outer for 2k, too ****ing sick.

Full Tilt - $1,000Heads-Up|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

spacegravy (BB): 480
Bluenowhere4 (SB): 520

Bluenowhere4 posts SB 10, spacegravy posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Bluenowhere4 has K 9

Bluenowhere4 raises to 40, spacegravy calls 20

Flop: (80, 2 players) 3 2 7
spacegravy checks, Bluenowhere4 bets 32, spacegravy calls 32

Turn: (144, 2 players) 9
spacegravy checks, Bluenowhere4 bets 85, spacegravy calls 85



River: (314, 2 players) J
spacegravy checks,


Bluenowhere4 bets 323, spacegravy calls 323 and is all-in

Bluenowhere4 shows K 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 27%, Flop 13%, Turn 93%)
spacegravy shows K J (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 73%, Flop 87%, Turn 7%)
spacegravy wins 960


Obv get ****ing kicked whilst I'm down for my last 40 ****ing chips.

Full Tilt - $1,000Heads-Up|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
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spacegravy (SB): 960
Bluenowhere4 (BB): 40

spacegravy posts SB 10, Bluenowhere4 posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Bluenowhere4 has 5 J

spacegravy raises to 40, Bluenowhere4 calls 20 and is all-in

Flop: (80, 2 players) Q 2 K

Turn: (80, 2 players) 7

River: (80, 2 players) 9



spacegravy shows 5 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 31%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
Bluenowhere4 shows 5 J (High Card, King) (Pre 69%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
spacegravy wins 80


and that ****ing flop, at least I wasn't mocked with ****ing false hope that time, still wanted to rage smash my laptop though

Full Tilt - $1,000Heads-Up|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Bluenowhere4 (SB): 356
spacegravy (BB): 644

Bluenowhere4 posts SB 10, spacegravy posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Bluenowhere4 has 5 5

Bluenowhere4 raises to 356 and is all-in, spacegravy calls 336

Flop: (712, 2 players) K 6 J




Turn: (712, 2 players) 6



River: (712, 2 players) Q



Bluenowhere4 shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives) (Pre 52%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
spacegravy shows J A (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes) (Pre 48%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
spacegravy wins 712


To sum up this evening. **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****

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Im not an expert in propbetting but I think you should look for better odds than 1:1 here.....
Yea def way worse than 50/50 to do it but w/e, I hate money anyway apparently.

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