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Old 04-05-2021, 05:34 PM   #201
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Re: Shipping nickles in 2021 [50nl to 200nl]

Hi ship, sometimes it's hard to find leaks yourself just looking at the stats. You might want to hire a poker coach (winning player at high stakes) to review some specific spots to make sure you are on a good track. This will you give you extra confidence going forward, and not to be too much results oriented. Personally I hired some coach for a few session and it helped a lot. I don't recommend hiring coach when you just start the poker but at your level, I think it's something to consider.
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Old 04-05-2021, 05:59 PM   #202
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I like my thought process, I like the way I execute based on my thought process, but I'm not pleased with the results. It gets me thinking about my strategy overall. Is it good enough?

It's tough to be in a spot where you put in a ton of work and thinking you are doing the right things, but you never get a clear confirmation of progress in the results.

All things considered, I might not be as good as I think.
Some relatable content ITT.

Congratulations on:
  • Hitting your volume goals every month
  • Playing close to A-game in over 90% of sessions
  • Winning (pre-rake) at 8.5bb/100 over a 300k sample in a pool that the vast majority of poker players couldn't beat
  • Being and ambitious and aspiring for more
  • Having the humility to recognise that you don't know your true skill or winrate
  • Taking the time to reflect on all of these things (a week off for this is a win in my books!)

In effect, congratulations on building an incredibly strong foundation that is sure to support you in whatever you pursue next. Exciting times for you Mr. Ship - you're only living this moment and I sincerely hope that you enjoy the process
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Old 04-06-2021, 11:09 AM   #203
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Man, you do a good job. Your threads motivate me in poker and life. Make me know the poker isn't an easy game. I am disappointed at my life and always dream to succed in poker. Later I found it more difficult than I think.Arter several months, I struggle on
nl10. Everytime I read your posts,I will obtain something and build up confidence in life.
Thank you to share with these! I'm very expecting you!
GOOD LUCK,MAN!
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Old 04-06-2021, 12:41 PM   #204
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Hey Ship, you´re one of the smartest players that consistently post here, and your results look pretty good imho. Maybe you´re actually the living proof that poker (and zoom in particular) is a tough game to beat.

I read quite a few blogs here and on RIO, and one in particular that comes to mind is Seta-beni´s. If I do recall correctly, he always said GTO was a pretty low factor on how he approaches the game, and stressed quite a bit the point of deeply learning how to exploit fish and weaker players in general, to the maximum.

Not saying you should stop focusing effort on theory, but moving to the top of your list how to squeeze the maximum ev of everyone weaker than you at all times while playing solid vs similar and better players could be the "secret" of improving your wr to smth more acceptable (to your standards? ).

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Old 04-06-2021, 03:01 PM   #205
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Nice update, this is a great thread. I can understand your thought process regarding your results, but I guess 300k hands also really isn’t that much at the same time. What does your red line look like ship?
Thanks :-)

My redline goes down, always has been. I've never been the type of player to push marginal spots by calling or betting/raising more than "I should". I think I have a tendency to call or bet/raise a tiny bit less than I should when I think it's very close, and definitely a thing that might be a leak. It's something I will look into more.

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I recognise the attention deficit stuff 100% but for me I'm convinced it's to do with my diet. If you eat good ignore me, but I'm transitioning to a keto/paleo diet and while it's really difficult because I've eaten crap my whole life, it's become the only option for me now because my body just can't take junk food and buckets of carbs anymore. And I do feel like my attention and confidence are swinging back at last.

& regarding results: jealous of your winrate tbh, as I'm sure many are. You don't need me to tell you ~2bb @ 50nlz is still a good player trying to master proper gto strategies, esp as edges grow increasingly narrower. Not to mention that, as you say, these graphs are misleading af when you factor in all the -EV you inevitably get from taking learning risks.

GL with the new stuff.
Thanks for your post! I've been like this during good and bad diets, but can't really tell if it's been a bit better when eating really well. Right now I've gone into a bit worse habits of eating junk somewhat often, but I don't think its the problem. I'll try eating a bit more healthier and making sure I get enough sleep and see if it helps even a little.

Well you know.. even if I would have a winrate of 5bb/100 I'd wonder why I'm not winning at 7bb/100. Jokes aside, I should probably just be happy with having a positive winrate and focus on improving like I've done so far. Can you tell me what you mean by learning risks?

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Hello.

You already know everything I'm going to say, but I'll say these things anyway because I think maybe they can help. Of course, these are just my humble opinions:

- I understand how frustating it is to put a lot of solid work and not seeing the results we want to, especially when we're a low volume player. On LLinusLLove's thread (for example), he was playing like 150k+ hands/month, and even then the swings he got over a year were brutal. That's hard, but that's how the game works. Your sample sizing doesn't mean too much, as you already know. Therefore, do not try to analyze your poker's skill based on your results, because this can trick you into making changes that (maybe) will do more harm to your game than improve it.

- In my humble opinion, a good way to monitor our skill and maintain sanity while we're playing this game is doing what you already do: marking hands and analyzing if we are making mistakes based on good solvers' solutions. You can create a system to account the amount of small and big errors you are making, etc. This is a better anchor to understand how good are we playing.

- One last thing: your winrate is very solid already. Don't worry about it.

I think you're a very good player and I do think you're doing things right. I'd suggest to just keep your consistency and your plan, and you'll be playing nl500z in no time.
Nice post. Thanks man.

If you don't study variance before you experience it, poker will eventually teach you a thing or two about it. But I agree. Can't just look at your winrate overall or in a certain position and suddenly start making random adjustments. Every adjustment needs a very good reasoning.

Especially vs the better regs it's really important to know what solver lines look like, because your edge will be the smallest vs these guys. And when this is the case the only way for you to not bleed money to these guys and the site is to know where they make their small or medium deviations that you can take advantage of. That said though, I think I need to focus more on reviewing hands vs weaker opponents and not think too much about solver lines. I do exploit, but I don't review my exploits as much as I should.

Mind telling me your background in poker and what you have going on? :-) I very often think about some posters behind 2+2 names but rarely ask anything about them.

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Hi ship, sometimes it's hard to find leaks yourself just looking at the stats. You might want to hire a poker coach (winning player at high stakes) to review some specific spots to make sure you are on a good track. This will you give you extra confidence going forward, and not to be too much results oriented. Personally I hired some coach for a few session and it helped a lot. I don't recommend hiring coach when you just start the poker but at your level, I think it's something to consider.
Thanks for the tip. I might do this at some point!

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Some relatable content ITT.

Congratulations on:
  • Hitting your volume goals every month
  • Playing close to A-game in over 90% of sessions
  • Winning (pre-rake) at 8.5bb/100 over a 300k sample in a pool that the vast majority of poker players couldn't beat
  • Being and ambitious and aspiring for more
  • Having the humility to recognise that you don't know your true skill or winrate
  • Taking the time to reflect on all of these things (a week off for this is a win in my books!)

In effect, congratulations on building an incredibly strong foundation that is sure to support you in whatever you pursue next. Exciting times for you Mr. Ship - you're only living this moment and I sincerely hope that you enjoy the process
This made me happy. Thank you so much for your support and kind words. You will have a fantastic future in poker as well if you keep at it

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Man, you do a good job. Your threads motivate me in poker and life. Make me know the poker isn't an easy game. I am disappointed at my life and always dream to succed in poker. Later I found it more difficult than I think.Arter several months, I struggle on
nl10. Everytime I read your posts,I will obtain something and build up confidence in life.
Thank you to share with these! I'm very expecting you!
GOOD LUCK,MAN!
This means a lot to me dazaiwu. Thanks for posting.

You don't have to be disappointed in yourself. If you are and have good reasons for it, you can start making small changes in order to little by little become a better version of yourself. Becoming successful in poker or any other field is not the key to become happy. If a successful career is what you think would make you happy, you are likely wrong. Often when I "level up" in something like my career or poker, I'm happy for a brief moment and after a couple days I'm back thinking negative thoughts and dreaming of the next level that I think would make me happier. It's just an illusion. I think you should dream about making every day the best it can be with the energy, time and tools you have at your disposal, instead of limiting your dreams to something that is far in the future. There are likely other areas in your life that make you unhappy, and a lot of it you can start working on little by little. I'm by no means the happiest I can be, and have a lot of stuff to work on still. I'll just list a couple things that have made me a happier person overall, and tell you where poker or my career lies in terms of importance or contributors to my happiness.

What has made me happier:
- Becoming very honest to myself and other people. I've stopped hanging out with friends that don't support my development as a person, or just don't make me happy. To some of them I've told this. I've also told friends that they make me happy and I appreciate them being in my life. Being super honest is uncomfortable in the short-term (not always), but in the long-term you will sunrun in life.
- Learning to appreciate the good stuff about myself. I've found myself always thinking about where I'm lacking, where I made mistakes, where I might make mistakes etc. This is still very present, but at least I sometimes take a moment to acknowledge all the good stuff. I need to do this way more often. Just thinking about the positives in my life puts a smile on my face.
- Identifying things I enjoy that I can do on a daily basis. Work shouldn't be a pain every day. If I have the possibility to work towards getting a job I would enjoy, I do it. Doing something I hate for 8 hours a day is wasting my life. Not taking up hobbies I've always dreamed about is also wasting my life.
- Trying to be happy about most days and acknowledge it. I'm happy about my day when I've structured and executed my day in a way that I know will make me a happier person overall. It can be a lazy day-off or an intense day working out, then playing poker early in the morning before the day-job, then playing a bit after work and later studying. A good day doesn't always mean a productive day. Bad days are often inevitable and nothing you can do about it.
- Understanding the importance of being healthy. Eating well, training and sleeping.

Poker success or my normie career is not really on the list. "Making it" is good if that means you can work with something you don't hate doing. Anyways you will always build new goals after reaching earlier ones, so you have to learn to enjoy the process instead of thinking that you will be happier some day in the future when you reach a goal.

Based on your post you can probably be confident in you being a good person. No amount of poker success is worth more than that. When most things around poker is good, poker success will be more likely as well.

Best of luck buddy!

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Hey Ship, you´re one of the smartest players that consistently post here, and your results look pretty good imho. Maybe you´re actually the living proof that poker (and zoom in particular) is a tough game to beat.

I read quite a few blogs here and on RIO, and one in particular that comes to mind is Seta-beni´s. If I do recall correctly, he always said GTO was a pretty low factor on how he approaches the game, and stressed quite a bit the point of deeply learning how to exploit fish and weaker players in general, to the maximum.

Not saying you should stop focusing effort on theory, but moving to the top of your list how to squeeze the maximum ev of everyone weaker than you at all times while playing solid vs similar and better players could be the "secret" of improving your wr to smth more acceptable (to your standards? ).

Cheers
Thank you so much Faz!

I always hate saying Zoom is hard, but you know what, it really is. You cant be all loosey goosey playing B and C game and expect to win.

Yeah I really need to improve hand reading vs weaker opponents and badregs especially. There is always more EV to be gained. Seta-Beni is a massive beast though, we don't mention him here. Also he's finnish and that puts a lot of pressure on me.

That could be the secret Faz. I'll report back in a year when I've implemented this advice.

GL brother :-)
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:35 PM   #206
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A good day doesn't always mean a productive day.
This is amazingly insightful and I completely agree, sometimes a guilt free lazy day is what we need.

You've somehow fostered an amazingly wholesome and supportive community on this thread (which is rare is online, mostly male groups )
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:37 PM   #207
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If you end up wanting coaching/DB analysis feel free to reach out to me.
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Old 04-06-2021, 04:42 PM   #208
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Your work ethic combined with your incredibly positive and thoughtful attitude are traits to be admired far more than your poker results tbh. It really says a lot about the current state of online poker when someone like you is struggling. 5-10 years ago you would have absolutely crushed and been at mid stakes or higher in no time.

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Publicly shilling your coaching ITT is a bit classless dude. No offence but you play 200z on Bovada and after tuning in to your your streams I doubt you'd beat 50z on Stars. At least have the decency to try to solicit your subpar services via PM instead.
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Old 04-06-2021, 05:08 PM   #209
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Publicly shilling your coaching ITT is a bit classless dude. No offence but you play 200z on Bovada and after tuning in to your your streams I doubt you'd beat 50z on Stars. At least have the decency to try to solicit your subpar services via PM instead.
BS has been publicly crushing for years. You joined in January.

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Old 04-06-2021, 11:59 PM   #210
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Where is this coaching?

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Old 04-07-2021, 03:04 AM   #211
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^^ lol at getting coaching from broken
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Old 04-07-2021, 11:57 AM   #212
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Thanks for your post! I read your suggestion seriously and think my life again. I always think if I have enough money,I will get more freedom and more happy.But thing is not so easy. Maybe I always escape from reality and difficulty.As you say,be honest to yourself,I begin to think life and poker more carefully !
GL, man!
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Old 04-08-2021, 12:16 AM   #213
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This is amazingly insightful and I completely agree, sometimes a guilt free lazy day is what we need.

You've somehow fostered an amazingly wholesome and supportive community on this thread (which is rare is online, mostly male groups )
A common problem is not to follow your own advice. Always easier to tell other people this stuff and completely ignore it in your own life. Not easy to be a human being :-)

I agree. Always love posting and reading other peoples posts on here. There are really good people on 2+2.

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Thanks for your post! I read your suggestion seriously and think my life again. I always think if I have enough money,I will get more freedom and more happy.But thing is not so easy. Maybe I always escape from reality and difficulty.As you say,be honest to yourself,I begin to think life and poker more carefully !
GL, man!
Love to hear it man.
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:40 AM   #214
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Publicly shilling your coaching ITT is a bit classless dude. No offence but you play 200z on Bovada and after tuning in to your your streams I doubt you'd beat 50z on Stars. At least have the decency to try to solicit your subpar services via PM instead.
Damn shots fired.
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:07 PM   #215
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Publicly shilling your coaching ITT is a bit classless dude. No offence but you play 200z on Bovada and after tuning in to your your streams I doubt you'd beat 50z on Stars. At least have the decency to try to solicit your subpar services via PM instead.
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Damn shots fired.

You're right. I should not have posted here, though my intentions were pure. That being said, you apparently play 2nl, so I don't know why you would feel you have the authority to state what my skill level is. I stated the coaching thing as it was brought up and it can be very very helpful for people (I've helped a lot of people move up stakes on a lot if different sites including poker stars).

Here is your 2nlz thread ddn.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...61/?highlight=

Now here is my recent results from starting over with just $100 and the vast majority of the $100-$10k was all streamed on twitch. If I can move up stakes I don't know why I wouldn't be able to help/teach someone else to.

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It's a long post so I won't quote it but man I love so much of what you've wrote in post #205. Your self awareness/ability for self reflection is far above the norm and I really enjoy reading your thoughts, both poker and non poker related.



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Old 04-08-2021, 05:18 PM   #217
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You're right. I should not have posted here, though my intentions were pure. That being said, you apparently play 2nl, so I don't know why you would feel you have the authority to state what my skill level is. I stated the coaching thing as it was brought up and it can be very very helpful for people (I've helped a lot of people move up stakes on a lot if different sites including poker stars).

Here is your 2nlz thread ddn.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...61/?highlight=

Now here is my recent results from starting over with just $100 and the vast majority of the $100-$10k was all streamed on twitch. If I can move up stakes I don't know why I wouldn't be able to help/teach someone else to.

Stop stalking me weirdo. You are not a qualified coach. Period. This is clear because if you were such a great coach, you would have people signing up in droves. You wouldn't need to shamlessly shill in other people's PG&Cs. The reason you're doing so is there are about 34546243 better coaches to hire than you.
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:24 PM   #218
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HU challenge incoming???
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:54 PM   #219
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Stop stalking me weirdo. You are not a qualified coach. Period. This is clear because if you were such a great coach, you would have people signing up in droves. You wouldn't need to shamlessly shill in other people's PG&Cs. The reason you're doing so is there are about 34546243 better coaches to hire than you.
What the hell is a qualified coach? you need a diploma or something?
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:19 PM   #220
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sorry but your volume is a joke
just keep playing and improving every day...
unless you are NOT willing to overcome your mental weakness and destroy the weak players you have no chance in this game, no PIO will help with that
get your **** together and just do it

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Old 04-09-2021, 09:40 PM   #221
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he works full time

good werk ship, keep it up imo
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Old 04-19-2021, 04:22 PM   #222
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Now here is my recent results from starting over with just $100 and the vast majority of the $100-$10k was all streamed on twitch. If I can move up stakes I don't know why I wouldn't be able to help/teach someone else to.

Is this on ignition?
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Old 04-20-2021, 06:19 AM   #223
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Brokenstars can't even beat 10NL Zoom lol
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:27 AM   #224
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Brokenstars can't even beat 10NL Zoom lol
That's your takeaway?
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Old 04-20-2021, 01:41 PM   #225
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it's clearly a joke ffs
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