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Originally Posted by bossman0161
This is great stuff! and very scary that players in my pool are thinking this deeply about spots (I see you at the tables every now and again)
1) I had a question about your strategy here. When you the solver overbets 15%, does that mean you are also trying to use a multiple sizing strategy on the flop?
2) I feel this is very difficult for any human to balance, if you end up putting too much value or bluffs in one sizing it becomes very easily exploited.
3) I would probably approach this by running sims of different single bet sizings to find the one which gives the highest IP EV. I ran some sims for this board and 33% was the best sizing, betting 76.65% frequency. Then I looked if you bet 33% with your range and it results in a 0.29% loss of EV. So I would personally simplify to betting 33% with range which you suggest my not be a good strategy.
4) Do you think the EV generated from mixing large cbet, small cbet and check outweighs the potential mistakes you might make balancing a mixed strategy? It also makes multi tabling harder, but I guess that isn't too relevant when just looking at what strategy is best.
These strategy posts are really great content btw
Thanks bossman! Yeah its nice to see 2+2 ers every now and then :-)
1) I use 33% and 150% in game on this flop (in my sims I use 33, 75 and 150. On this flop it mixes between all sizings). Yes I am trying to balance 2 sizings, it's hard though and I am probably unbalanced. But I have a set of "rules" to which sizings I use, so it will balance somewhat. Not sure it's the best idea, just what I'm used to right now.
2) Yes very difficult and I am for sure not doing it even close to perfect.
3) Did you use the same exact flop in your sims, what about sizings? My sims like to check only ~25% time on Khi when both lowcards are <= 8 and bet 1/3 sizing, but on this texture it checks more and uses several sizings. You should definitely range bet K97o 1/3 if the EV loss is insignificant! I did not test betting 33% with range, just assumed this has a bigger loss than K63r for example. Thanks for this, please share your sim if you want
4) Whenever you can simplify a strategy, DO IT. But having an idea why some textures might have several sizings is good, because it increases your overall understanding of the game and you can be more comfortable in your simplifications if you implement them.
I don't have a lot of experience in GTO+ but know the basics. So there is a chance I have some errors in my sims too.
Thanks for really good questions and points, will definitely remember these and look into it more.
Last edited by Shipnickle; 03-28-2020 at 03:14 PM.