I commented this on CrunchyBlack's thread and will also put it here as a reminder to myself:

What I think makes or breaks otherwise slightly to medium winning regs is not adjusting to the underbluffing pool and not playing aggressively enough yourself when the weak reg pool checks a weaker than optimal range. This is not the thing that breaks you, it's just the thing that lead to less +EV plays, you lose more stacks than you should and this sets off the tilting. The tilting breaks you.

My checklist for the micros (when playing vs weak regs and fish):
- Turn/river raises are usually nutted
- Missed OOP c-bet ranges usually too weak, even more weak when missed IP.
- There is no unnatural bluffing going on (hard for villain to not have a pair? probably not bluffing)
- Pot bets are nutted almost always, even more so overbets
- You should always BOMB for value vs inelastic ranges, even AQ/AJ on A27 if villain can't fold any Ax
- Betsizings are really straight forward, don't be afraid to attack small bets especially on wet boards.

That's a good baseline for making decisions at the micros IMO.

110% agree

HAND 1:

Did i butcher hand on any street? River go full polar bear?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $34.67 (139 bb)
MP: $25.00 (100 bb)
CO: $40.19 (161 bb)
BU: $61.34 (245 bb)
SB: $69.50 (278 bb)
BB (Hero): $31.25 (125 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 2♥ 3♥
1 fold, MP raises to $0.70, 2 players fold, SB calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($2.10) 3♠ 3♦ 2♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $1.40, SB raises to $5.25, Hero calls $5.25, MP folds

Turn: ($14) 6♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($14) 8♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25.30 (all-in), SB folds

Total pot: $14 (Rake: $0.63)
BB (Hero) wins $13.37



HAND 2:

This flop get floated a lot and I don't block many floats. I do want to have a turn x/r range here. Seems ok?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $26.27 (105 bb)
MP: $60.25 (241 bb)
CO: $31.69 (127 bb)
BU: $25.00 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): $27.22 (109 bb)
BB: $65.41 (262 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K♥ K♦
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.62, Hero 3-bets to $2.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.88

Flop: ($5.25) 9♣ 7♦ 2♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.65, BTN calls $1.65

Turn: ($8.55) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero raises to $23.07 (all-in), BU folds

Total pot: $18.55 (Rake: $0.83)
SB (Hero) wins $17.72



HAND 3:

I don't remember my though process but I think I was going for a x/c. My range has a lot of AK & AA that wants to check here OTT. He has all TT (some QQ) and AJs. He also has some AK,AQ,JTs and JJ. Is this just a small bet OTT since he probably doesnt have many bluffs but quite alot of hands he can call? And blockbet many rivers?


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UTG: $31.71 (127 bb)
MP: $25.34 (101 bb)
CO: $49.43 (198 bb)
BU: $17.70 (71 bb)
SB (Hero): $25.00 (100 bb)
BB: $25.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q♣ K♣
UTG raises to $0.62, 3 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $2.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.88

Flop: ($5.25) K♦ Q♠ 6♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.65, UTG calls $1.65

Turn: ($8.55) T♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($8.55) 9♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $6.75, SB (Hero) folds

Total pot: $8.55 (Rake: $0.38)
UTG wins $8.17

#Hand 1

I think pre is close already, might even find a fold sometimes.
Cold calling SB raise OTF looks incredibly strong to me, so it probably was for the opponent. I would try betting small, maybe to induce if he had a combo draw of some kind or get value from a weak pair like 55,77,44.

#Hand 2

I'd rather play like this with a King of clubs in my hand, being afraid to give too much equity to the button for free, but seems fine, I like it

#Hand 3

Well, you have the same AJ as he has, suited only. U also can have TT and range bet that flop. Aces would like to check but I think I'd still like to get value from flush draws, worse 2 pair, pair+gutshot etc. So I like bet/bet/bet on good rivers. As played, seems like a good x/f, not really seeing him turning his QT into a bluff.

Short session today at 10z, didn't play 25z because haven't played in a few days. Still running well, but I try to mark every hand where I might make mistakes.




HAND 1:

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UTG: $10.15 (102 bb)
MP: $13.70 (137 bb)
CO: $4.70 (47 bb)
BU: $18.12 (181 bb)
SB: $13.51 (135 bb)
BB (Hero): $11.38 (114 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A♠ K♥
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN 3-bets to $0.90, 1 fold, Hero 4-bets to $2.40, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50

Flop: ($5.15) 2♦ 3♥ K♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BTN calls $1.10

Turn: ($7.35) A♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BTN calls $1.60

River: ($10.55) 9♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $6.28 (all-in), BU folds

Total pot: $10.55 (Rake: $0.47)
BB (Hero) wins $10.08



HAND 2:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $10.35 (104 bb)
MP: $15.42 (154 bb)
CO: $15.51 (155 bb)
BU: $10.05 (101 bb)
SB: $14.35 (144 bb)
BB (Hero): $16.26 (163 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A♠ 6♠
UTG raises to $0.22, 1 fold, CO calls $0.22, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.71) 4♠ 8♦ 5♦ (3 players)
Hero bets $0.45, UTG calls $0.45, CO calls $0.45

Turn: ($2.06) 7♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $1.60, UTG calls $1.60, CO folds

River: ($5.26) K♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2

Total pot: $9.26 (Rake: $0.42)

Showdown:
BB (Hero) mucks A♠ 6♠ (a straight, Four to Eight)
UTG mucks
BB (Hero) wins $8.84



HAND 3:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $9.41 (94 bb)
MP: $10.46 (105 bb)
CO: $13.35 (134 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $21.57 (216 bb)
BB (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K♠ K♦
1 fold, MP raises to $0.25, 3 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $1, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.05) 6♣ K♥ 7♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.05) 5♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

River: ($8.85) 4♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Total pot: $8.85 (Rake: $0.40)

Showdown:
MP mucks
BB (Hero) mucks K♠ K♦ (three of a kind, Kings)
BB (Hero) wins $8.45



HAND 4:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG (Hero): $10.77 (108 bb)
MP: $10.30 (103 bb)
CO: $10.10 (101 bb)
BU: $12.38 (124 bb)
SB: $10.00 (100 bb)
BB: $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q♥ Q♠
Hero raises to $0.25, MP 3-bets to $1, 2 players fold, SB calls $0.95, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 8♣ 3♥ 4♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $1, SB calls $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($6.10) J♥ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($6.10) 4♥ (3 players)
SB bets $1.92, UTG (Hero) folds, MP calls $1.92

Total pot: $9.94 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
SB mucks
MP mucks
SB wins $9.49



HAND 5:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $11.62 (116 bb)
MP: $15.85 (159 bb)
CO: $7.33 (73 bb)
BU: $11.79 (118 bb)
SB: $12.72 (127 bb)
BB (Hero): $20.92 (209 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K♠ Q♠
2 players fold, CO raises to $0.30, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 4♠ K♦ 4♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.31, Hero calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.27) 6♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($1.27) J♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.91, CO raises to $3.94, BB (Hero) folds

Total pot: $3.09 (Rake: $0.14)
CO wins $2.95



HAND 6:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $14.27 (143 bb)
MP: $14.72 (147 bb)
CO: $9.91 (99 bb)
BU: $8.60 (86 bb)
SB (Hero): $21.25 (213 bb)
BB: $10.91 (109 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 3♠ 3♣
4 players fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB 3-bets to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) Q♦ K♠ 2♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

Turn: ($3.10) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($3.10) A♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.96, BB folds

Total pot: $3.10 (Rake: $0.14)
SB (Hero) wins $2.96



HAND 7:

Villain showed up with KQo. Unsure if a river bet is too thin

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $19.30 (193 bb)
MP (Hero): $32.75 (328 bb)
CO: $5.25 (53 bb)
BU: $11.21 (112 bb)
SB: $10.34 (103 bb)
BB: $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 9♦ 9♥
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 players fold, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.75) 2♠ 5♣ 5♦ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.36, SB folds, BB calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.47) 2♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.46, BB calls $0.46

River: ($2.39) 8♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $2.39 (Rake: $0.11)

Showdown:
MP (Hero) mucks 9♦ 9♥ (two pair, Nines and Fives)
BB mucks
MP (Hero) wins $2.28



HAND 8:

Plan was to donk on some spades and if I hit. Don't know if I like this line

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $10.27 (103 bb)
MP: $14.87 (149 bb)
CO: $13.06 (131 bb)
BU: $17.39 (174 bb)
SB: $7.79 (78 bb)
BB (Hero): $19.93 (199 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 9♣ T♠
2 players fold, CO raises to $0.26, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.57) 7♠ 8♣ K♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.57) 8♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34

River: ($1.25) 3♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Total pot: $1.25 (Rake: $0.06)

Showdown:
CO mucks
BB (Hero) mucks 9♣ T♠ (a pair of Eights)
CO wins $1.19



HAND 9:

Vs 2 potential fish

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $11.83 (118 bb)
MP: $13.49 (135 bb)
CO: $13.51 (135 bb)
BU (Hero): $18.05 (181 bb)
SB: $6.55 (66 bb)
BB: $5.00 (50 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 8♦ 8♠
3 players fold, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.75) 7♠ 7♥ K♣ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.24, SB calls $0.24, BB folds

Turn: ($1.23) 8♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB folds

Total pot: $1.23 (Rake: $0.06)
BU (Hero) wins $1.17



HAND 10:

He had the lone king with AKo

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $9.41 (94 bb)
MP: $10.46 (105 bb)
CO: $13.35 (134 bb)
BU: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $21.57 (216 bb)
BB (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K♠ K♦
1 fold, MP raises to $0.25, 3 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $1, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.05) 6♣ K♥ 7♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.05) 5♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

River: ($8.85) 4♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Total pot: $8.85 (Rake: $0.40)

Showdown:
MP mucks
BB (Hero) mucks K♠ K♦ (three of a kind, Kings)
BB (Hero) wins $8.45

I think this is one of few spots where we should develop a donking range. We are the only one that can hold 44, 85s, 45s and 67s. Flop should be a high frequency check for the PFR. This is less of a donk 3way, but I still think this is fine. It is also hard for villain to raise considering BB nut advantage. Not sure about sizing here, should probably go bigger OTF.

This is why I play only 2 tables of zoom. I don't want to miss spots like these.

Lead turn with the 9T and straight draw, check calling won't be profitable. dumping the 33 too, it's too optimistic just hoping he has a hand like 77 we can make fold on future streets

Yeah, I think you're right about T9. Any other card than an 8 or A I'm leading turn, my though process was he checks back 8x a lot. But I have all 8x too so I should just go ahead and bet with no SD value and a draw.

The 33 I'm going to solve at some point. I don't think we can dump it OTF vs a small cbet BvB, atleast solver wouldn't I'm quite sure. OTR on the Ad 33 is the bottom of our range and I decided to bet a polarizing amount. I would rather have 3d3x instead but this shouldnt be too bad I guess.. If the river was a blank I would try to check it down.

About 33 still: Vs 1/2 pot or bigger it's a fold imo. We don't have to follow MDF as strictly OOP but I think a pair should be a call here, but at best it's baby +ev anyway. Don't mind a fold.

If u need a study partner let me know. Im in a very similar situation; started a blog 5 days ago ran 100 -> 305. Now 2 tabling 10z. Also from Finland. Torille...

#Hand 1

I really like the bet sizing, the hit really hard that board with your 4betting range and even when we lock it af on the turn you still put a lot of opponents range in a tough spot, wp,

#Hand 2

Interesting hand, I personally do not have bluff donkbets multiway, feels like it's way to hard balancing it, would probably sometimes donkbet 67 or sets there. River blockbet seems nice, but I wonder what sizing would you use with flushes and also, what turns do you continue bluffing? I figure some lowish spades, 9x, 6x, etc. Do you bluff flushing turns? Same question with rivers.

#Hand 3

Even though we are most likely an enormous favourite on that board I wouldn't skip checking and instead go for a small cbet as you would like to do with most of your range here. Turn probably checking and x/r or x/c rivers depending on runouts and sizings.

#Hand 4

I believe that we could mix in some 4bets preflop also, but I figure that SB cold calling might be a fish so just calling becomes more profitable. Moreover, the 3b size seems very big so that's suspicious. Flop I'd consider raising vs that sizing, feels like people are not betting that small with a really strong hand and you're basically beat by 12 combos. As played, river is close with Qh, but obviously, no one bluffs that sizing, the question is, does he valuebet something like AJ/KJ there, and I seriously doubt it. Very solid fold I'd never do

#Hand 5

I believe that with KQs we should be x/r that board pretty often, especially vs a weaker player, 3betting pre to about 10bb is also an option. As played, wp, probably no bluffs there.

#Hand 6

Even though a lot of people are range betting that flop I think we have to let go the 33 here, maybe with 3d3x it can become a call, but still being OOP I don't think we're making a profit here. As played I'd consider overbetting river if I decide to bet, but most likely just x/f.

#Hand 7

I'd bet turn bigger, we're getting called by 66-88 and probably 33-44 + some A high with gutshouts. River could exploitatively bet something around 60-70c to get a call from those above, but we set ourselves for some bluff river raises if our opponent is thinking.

#Hand 8

I believe people are really capping their ranges by checking on those flops on micros. So, with that in mind and a pretty nice draw + second card pairing the board and the fact that we have more 8s in our range I would go for an overbet and probably bet every spade, every low card.

#Hand 9

Seems fine, he's calling 3way that flop, so he's turn range should be pretty inelastic, guess he didn't have a king

#Hand 10

The same as Hand#1 I guess. Too bad he had AK, could probably stack him with bet bet bet

Yeah you guys were right about this hand. 33 with a diamond is only a tiny frequency flop call vs small sizing, and without, its a pure fold. Pretty much the same with 44-88.

@silent_poultry
Hand 4, the river bettor had JJ and MP called with AJ spades. I had a really hard time finding a hand that would cold call from the SB, call the flop and block the river that I beat. I guess this never is a fold in theory, probably not in real life either. Worked this time though, won't do it again lol.

Hand 5, You are probably right that KQ should be raised somewhat often OTF.

Hand 7, I think when I open MP, and get a call 3way, I can't really go too big OTT. BB has a lot of strong hands and I don't want to polarize with a middlish pair.

Thanks for your comments mate!

@goldenhamster
you can pm me your discord if you want.

Yesterday's session. Didn't really get involved in many interesting hands. Just running into top of ranges I guess. About time that I start losing some pots:



I stopped being a cheap f*** and bought GTO+ today. I like it so far. Really helpful software.

I solved for flop cbet sizing over-night by different positions. I chose the ones that I feel are most common and that gives a picture of almost every flop situation.

I chose the 33 subset of flops, which I think is enough. Don't think its good for learning to start scrolling through hundreds of flops.

UTGvBTN
BTNvBB
SBvBB

I've used snowie ranges (with some minor adjustments) and done no node locking. At some point I will do more pool adjusted solves, seems really interesting and helpful.

The solver work has already been a huge eye-opener.

Some things I've noticed (not adjusting to a weaker pool) that some flop textures in BTNvBB SRP:s, only has an overbet or check range. These are almost always an ace, one broadway + low card flops (AJ6).

Other flops that have ~50% check frequency and ~25% small bet and ~25% overbet are:
- Two middlish cards with one low card rainbow (T94r)
- One broadway with gappers under that card (J96)

The OB favored flops are almost always those where BB cant have middle or top set, and rainbow preferred with some gaps between cards.

I think the amount of overbetting goes up when adjusting for pools flop passiveness. This is something I need to look into.

Another thing which is quite obvious is that in 3bet and 4bet pots there is almost no overbetting going on, since it's not needed with a low SPR.

Also 1/5 sizing is often preferred over 1/3 in 4bet pots. But 1/4 should be the standard. Also something I will look into over the next few days. The 1/4 sizing usually makes it awkward if you want to go for 3 streets, since your turn bet gets really really tiny 100bb deep.

It's really weird that we still see no overbetting in the micro pools. Is no one studying poker below 100z?

People are seriously overfolding/under xraising vs small sizes

Agreed. I still see the huge value in betting small a majority of the time. But I also see massive value in having a polar bear range on some boards.

Overbetting flop doesnt mean we have go for the pot bet OTT and ship river either.

AK8 flop:

Let's say we have AT/AJ. Is there more value in OB flop, check back turn, call a bet or bet ourselves when checked to OTR? Than going 1/3 OTF and 2/3 OTT and check back river?

We might even gain more value vs Kx this way. Normally we would go 1/3 OTF and 2/3 OTT (and villain usually folds the turn anyway).

8x and gutshots often call a bet vs 1/3 OTF, but is this that relevant really?

I think on a flop like this (where Ax is a big part of villains continuerange, with some Kx and FD's), we put villain in more difficult spots by overbetting than betting small. And betting small puts villain in really sticky spots on most boards, but is this the one?

I am not sure, I think in general people dont fold enough vs big sizes and if peoples pairs are price inelastic then i deffo see the value in betting big.

Usually I like betting big on spots where my bluffs have strong equity (KQ on T high board for example) as there'll be loads of turns where I can continue to put pressure.

Hey, mate.

I'm following your thread. Good luck! Maybe I'll see you at tables :- )

Yeah that makes sense. Thank you wizz.

Hey Giovanni. Nice to hear, welcome! Thank you. Yes I hope so 8-)

How many hands do you have at nl10z so far and what's your winrate at this limit?

Which programming language do you use? I am Pythonist and former Matlabist

Im on my phone now but i think 21k hands and something close to 13evbb/100. Ridiculous sample. I hope to have more time for playing next week.

Im a pythonist too. :-) Mostly data analysis but Im interested in a lot of stuff. Havent coded in a while. Will make a random number generator for poker soon, should be simple enough after a longer break, hehe.

It's not a good sample, but it's always good to win so much, right? Congrats! :- )

About the number generator: I use starshelper to do that for me. It's great, because it does automatically at every table when I do every action possible. But when I didn't have it, I just used a simple formula at excel with a macro in order to click a button and have a random number.

Best regards and good luck.

Well, yes. Winning is nice

I used the free trial and liked it. I could just buy it tbh, but I like coding so it would just be a nice little thing to do!

Thank you