holy **** man, just found this! glgl

can you explain this shove otr ? i dont get it

https://www.boomplayer.com/27227579_238BB12421

hesteban must be a whale

haha he is not a whale , and i think this is just too light of a vbet

I was well aware that it's a river check in theory. I'll leave it at that :P

Thanks Don!

greedy greedy ^^

We got the tank but not the fold. Very ambitious at this spr.

pretty sick bluff, it's so small that a ton of people will level themselves that it's never a bluff since villain won't expect hero to fold that much for that sizing lol.

It remembers me of a bluff phil galfond threw at PLO, where villain went for pot OTR and he rebluffed for like an extra 1k dollars all-in in a 60k dollar pot with the nut low and villain folded his bluff that was better than the nut low LOL!

I've had a swingy few days and today was the haymaker.



I rocked the 43 WSD and just couldn't many big pots. On the bright side, I'm not tilted. I certainly don't feel happy, but back when I was playing 25nl, I'd have been on monkey-tilt if I lost $300. This isn't the real test, though. The real test will be once I go through my next extended downswing.

I rocked the 43 WSD and just couldn't many big pots. On the bright side, I'm not tilted. I certainly don't feel happy, but back when I was playing 25nl, I'd have been on monkey-tilt if I lost $300. This isn't the real test, though. The real test will be once I go through my next extended downswing.[/QUOTE]

any tips on how to pass this test ^^ ? im in the test now hahah :S

unlucky. bound to happen at some point. Unfortunately, those 43 w@sd with low wwsf sessions happen more and more frequently in this climate.

gl bouncing back!

I'm always very impressed to see you msnl guys swing in good spirits. Not a very easy thing to achieve for most.

Fun thread to follow OP, gl!

I'm no expert, but you just have to grind through it and continue working on your game. Also, 12-13 buy-ins is hardly a downswing anyways. So we'll see how I cope in the future. Last year, when I was mixing between 200-500z, I went through a ~50 BI downswing between the two limits. I'd never experienced anything like it (which is in itself somewhat lucky). It has made smaller swings easier to swallow while also reinforcing the importance of good BR management.

Thanks for the encouragement! Who said anything about a low wwsf?

tyty. Another thing that has helped me deal with tilt is that this is where I want to be. Not to say high-stakes isn't a goal for the future, but I remember how cool 500z (or even 200) used to seem. Anytime I hit a downswing at the micros, it meant I was just that much farther from reaching MSNL.

There's plenty of room for improvement, but I do handle tilt a lot better now. I don't stay tilted all day post-session anymore. If anyone has more advice on how to improve mental game that they'd like to share, please do!

haha, generally mine drops when my wasd dips too. Perhaps I play weaker when losing every hand

Nah for sure it dips, too. Mine tends to stay higher than population average regardless, though.

Back-to-back days of my most and second most biggest losing days. It doesn't feel great.

Gl bouncing back

You're mindset seems to be at the right place

GLGL DUDE!!

This stretch has been brutal and the test is definitely on. I'll post a monthly graph in a week or so, and I expect it to be ugly. I'm still finding plenty of spots to work on in my game. This downswing has been one of those sick ones where you get torched in both showdown and non-showdown winnings. I'm considering switching back to two tables of 500 and two tables of 200. I'm definitely well rolled for 500, but it's good to be cautious. I was really hoping to break through and exclusively play 500+ from now on. Perhaps that's just egotistical thinking.


And that's why the computer says to check river:








siiiigh










Maybe too thin against population with this size. idk






Interesting line... (I lost the 2nd runout)

pretty cool spot, I think the question we should be asking shouldn't be if betting AK there for that sizing is too thin, but which hands we want to make villain indifferent of calling and how we should choose our river sizing to allow villain to make bigger mistakes vs that.

I think your betsizing OTR should have a strong correlation to how many airball hands you're betting OTT. If you're betting only hands with strong equity as a bluff and no airballs, you will struggle to find bluffs on this river, so you should use a smaller sizing if you're using that strategy OTT.

Just as an example, if villain is folding QT there he isn't making a big mistake, actually it's an auto-fold vs that sizing if you're not going nuts OTT. I think that there are 2 good strats that will maximize villain's mistakes there:

1- Overbluffing OTT so you can have bluffs on this river, like bluffing with airball hands like 5d5x, so when you get to the river, you will have enough bluffs(or you could even overbluff), making it very tough for villain to call. It works even better if he thinks you're not going so much crazy OTT and believes he should overfold and only call with K9/flushes/KdQx. The problem of doing that is that you will probably have a ton of -EV turn bets which won't see good rivers to jam. Also if you're not careful it will be pretty easy to overbluff on brick rivers.

2- Betting normally OTT and then choose a smaller sizing OTR, like anything between 33% and 100% of the pot(which you will think suits better for the amount you're bluffing). It's easier to play with that sizing, and villain will have to call with a ton of 2-pairs, if you're slightly underbluffing(which is likely) he will be making more calling mistakes vs that sizing.

gl in ur downswing, man, love your RIO videos!

which RIO coach are you?

his shove with AhKs is bad, pretty sure he's aware of it, sometimes people make mistakes

+1, would probs bet 3/4ths with this combo

Thanks man. The ds is beginning to get comical.


Bad seems a bit strong, since PIO does shove every AK combo some non-noise %. But, like bbissick mentioned, 3/4 is the most frequent sizing with this exact combo. Do you guys think population way over-folds river compared to PIO here? I'm not asking rhetorically. Not sure if I'd be folding to xj otr anyways, though.

bad seems accurate