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09-24-2018 , 12:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Looks like the rapidesh sweat session worked out well. You were warned. lul.

Me and rapidesh never did a sweat session. He's either getting confused or, more likely IMO, trolling us.



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlavaGZ
Nice read mate, think in zoom swings should be sick, keep this in mind before getting in the pool seems important xD, correct yourself is fine, change your plans drastically for a down not i think, i mean yes for your attitude, but not simply bc bad sessions. We need to be aware that fat downs are going to come 100%, we need to have the mind prepared so that when the down comes we do not collapse, need understand the game.

Agree about the swings. They get bigger as you move up to tougher levels, both monetarily and as a result of increase in standard, so there's always a period of stress whilst you come to discover what the new normal is.

And agree it's always dangerous to make major adjustments to your game based on some short-term runbad. However, I think there's a few minor adjustments, such as cutting some hands out of my EP/MP opening ranges and my open sizes (was 2.4 but upped it to 2.5 now) that are definitely going to improve my EV. In that sense, short periods of runbad can be useful in highlighting where you're going wrong.



I started playing again last week, after a long time without playing, trying to do things the best way possible this time, especially in mental way, you can see in my thread that I started very badly, in those sessions I did not tit, but then I did not want to play and I also realized that I was too worried about the graphics, not that I'm obsessed with the profits or something, but I do see her a lot in small samples (and while I play) as if she were to say something xD, then I learned (in valentjnn vids, this guy is a volume degen, i learn a lot of he for free in mental game, people here hate he and insult he in his thread lol, but mods banned me for saying pure reallity instead of them hahaha,someone putting lulz here in 3,2,1 but it's the reality, that grinder kicks you in the mouth, does not even respond to your insults in his own thread lol ) that it is a matter of understanding the game well and being consequent with your actions, I also learned from him that when you do that talking about variance and the swings and the graph, you start to really enjoy the game and this is sick.

Good luck mate, I'll be sure to check out your thread when I get a chance.

It's never a good thing to get too focused on your graph, which is why I try to go long periods without checking mine. If you are using conservative bankroll-management then I strongly suggest you stop checking so often, even if it's just making sure you only check at the end of the day rather than clicking refresh during sessions. It's a big help and is really useful for switching focus away from the money and onto the process itself.



This has to do with what you say about the stablo, you now want to escape from the pressure of the swings, you want to eliminate that pressure by joining a stable just to get to 100z quickly and you are willing to give your 50% profit (now that you think that you have no earnings, you would have to see if you thought that after a + 10bi session lol), what I mean is that that is not your reason to get into a stables, is a stupid reason. We must be aware of the game we play, neither more nor less

To be honest you are right. I think I'm beating 25NLz even if I'm a mediocre player there, and I know for sure I can still improve a fair bit and produce some decent results without needing to join a stable. I have a lot of poker friends now and we discuss spots daily, + there's some fairly basic fundamentals of poker that I'm still learning. There's plenty of free resources so I probably won't be joining a stable until I've got a really good sample @ 25NLz. Will have a think but as you say, wanting to join a stable just because I had a few tough sessions is no reason to join one at all.

Thanks for the comments bud.



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Barely played today. 1hr 26mins. To be honest my body-clock is a bit messy again and that's affecting volume and productivity so I'll try to sort that out today/tomorrow.

Grind was fine, think one hand I somewhat misplayed and got stacked but other than that played OK and finished around b/e.


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H1 - Can maybe fold here against someone we only have 14 hands on, but their stats look normal and I think it's too weak to fold seeing as a lot of less experienced players respond badly to the high levels of PF aggression by overbluffing some poor hand choices, or by turning certain hands into bluffs not realising what they're doing.
Saying that they're opening CO rather than BTN so maybe we can just nittily fold to the 4b. Vs BTN though it's not even a debate.



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $39.95
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $32.73
UTG: $27.87
MP: $25.00
CO: $23.25

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, CO raises to $5.25, Hero raises to $25.00 and is all-in, CO calls $18.00 and is all-in

Flop: ($46.75, 2 players) 9 3 6

Turn: ($46.75, 2 players) A

River: ($46.75, 2 players) K

Hero shows K A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 7%, Flop 0.3%, Turn 0%)
CO shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 93%, Flop 99.7%, Turn 100%)
CO wins $44.75
Rake paid $2.00




H2 - Vs complete rando. Not sure about decision to CRAI turn rather than just cbet but figured they'd be floating flop with all their AK-AT and any other overs they could have, and would likely bet when checked to with those, + would definitely bet TT/99/66/55/33/A8s basically anything they've possibly got here so think it's fine. Just unfortunate they have QQ and not one of the hands we crush.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.35
Hero (SB): $38.04
BB: $23.56
UTG: $26.77
MP: $25.00
CO: $12.42

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, BB calls $2.25, fold

Flop: ($5.50, 2 players) 8 4 2
Hero bets $1.73, BB calls $1.73

Turn: ($8.96, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BB bets $4.75, Hero raises to $33.81 and is all-in, BB calls $14.58 and is all-in

River: ($47.62, 2 players) 6

Hero shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BB shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
BB wins $45.62
Rake paid $2.00




H3 - Annoying hand mainly because there's a not a chance a 25NL reg has a strong limping strat figured out. Even most 500z regs don't.

Also think turn bet might be a mistake as we assume they've got a good amount of flopped sets in range (most likely 33 but also possibly 66 or even 77) and they've prob got a good amount of 6x and straights too, whereas there's no guarantees they even call with 55 and 44 so we could be purely v-owning ourselves by betting. Needed them to be turning 55 and 44 into bluffs really which is super optimistic. River is also really bad because if they're waiting until turn to c/r it's more likely any draws are turned FDs as stuff like spade draws would just c/r flop instead.



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $73.01
SB: $25.00
Hero (BB): $64.91
UTG: $25.35
MP: $30.12
CO: $18.12

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T T

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.87, SB calls $0.62

Flop: ($1.74, 2 players) 6 7 3
SB checks, Hero bets $1.11, SB calls $1.11

Turn: ($3.96, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero bets $2.19, SB raises to $8.72, Hero calls $6.53

River: ($21.40, 2 players) K
SB bets $14.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $14.30

SB shows 6 Q (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 31%, Flop 20%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Sixes)
(Pre 69%, Flop 80%, Turn 5%)
SB wins $48.00
Rake paid $2.00




H4 - Sick river vs rec although I was probably calling a lot of river anyway.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $30.17
SB: $19.61
BB: $24.46
UTG: $49.56
MP: $57.54
CO: $33.63

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 2 2

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) 6 3 5
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.34, 2 players) 6
BB bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($2.84, 2 players) 2
BB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $28.80 and is all-in, BB calls $21.34 and is all-in

Hero shows 2 2 (Full House, Twos full of Sixes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 62%, Turn 55%)
BB shows 4 A (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 38%, Turn 45%)
Hero wins $47.02
Rake paid $2.00




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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Sun 23/9/18

[F] 3+hrs total grind 25NLz

1hr 26mins

[X] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[X] review long-term goals ITT before day is done

Doing now.

[X] new long-term goals ITT before day is done

Doing now.

[X] new daily goals ITT before day is done

Doing now.
09-24-2018 , 01:08 AM
Done for the week. At the end of last week I set in place some new strategies to boost consistency. Unfortunately I played that horrible AKo 2.5bi spew on the first day of the week and couldn't get back on the horse for the rest of that day. Managed to pull things back together in the following days and was fortunate to unearth some sick heat. Sadly the last few days have been really poor again and I've struggled mentally and not managed to hit the volume goal. I won't be too hard on myself though, failure is a necessary evil that must be confronted. I'm learning more and more each week, both specifically regarding poker but also about my process in general. The paths to where I'm heading are gradually revealing themselves. I have complete faith that I'll begin to put it all together soon, especially as I become more and more comfortable at a limit that, barring a cataclysmic downer, I'll be playing for many weeks and months to come.



Graph for Mon 17/9/18 to Sun 23/9/18





Breakdown by Day





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Part of the mental issues over the last few days stemmed from the belief that I'd lost back all the profits from the heater, so to find out I still made 10BIs this week is a huge relief and a huge boost. I know focusing on results too much is never a good thing, especially across samples so small, but this goes a long way to cementing at the level and I'm really happy about that because I know I belong at 25NLz.



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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Mon 17/9/18 to Sun 23/9/18

[F] 30+hrs total grind 25NLz

23hrs 4mins

[X] use the 10k weekly freeroll ticket

[X] review 14+ pot odds spots

Reviewed 14 exactly.

[X] no looking at graphs or balance until final session of the week has finished

[X] no opening chests until final session of the week has finished

Got maybe half a buyin, a few coins and another 10k freeroll ticket. Totally worth the wait...

[F] new daily goals ITT before each day is done

[F] review daily goals ITT before each day is done

[X] review long-term goals ITT before week is done


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Goals for Mon 24/9/18 to Sun 30/9/18

[ ] 25+hrs total grind 10NLz

[ ] review 18+ pot odds spots

[ ] no looking at graphs or balance until final session of week has finished

[ ] no opening chests until final session of week has finished

[ ] new daily goals ITT before each day is done

[ ] review daily goals ITT before each day is done

[ ] review long-term goals ITT before week is done

[ ] new long-term goals ITT before week is done



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Goals for Mon 24/9/18

[ ] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[ ] new daily goals ITT before day is done



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Most likely won't be playing tomorrow/today as I'll be trying to fix ****ty body-clock once more, but I'll be updating later either way.


Roll is now > 70BI for 25NL as I made a $300 deposit to take advantage of a promotion to get 4 free $15 spinner tickets. Played through those earlier and managed to bink a 4x so that's a huge bonus, although had a few gross hands in a 6x vs a funplayer.


https://www.boomplayer.com/28849686_0BE770D659

https://www.boomplayer.com/28849687_5658E9FAB2


Would've been nice to win that but at least won a subsequent 4x so can't complain too much.
09-24-2018 , 06:02 AM
I was referring to the fact that in zoom the swings are always going to be larger because the variance is bigger since the wr is lower
The 0,01 sizing change definitely not go improve your ev a lot haha, is true when ranges are tight (as in micros should be) sizing should be bigger
I think that if you have a lot of poker friends and info, stable can’t be a good option, forget it is the better option imo, I never be in one, but seems a hell
Glgl mate
09-24-2018 , 04:45 PM
In for this. Good luck!
09-25-2018 , 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlavaGZ
I was referring to the fact that in zoom the swings are always going to be larger because the variance is bigger since the wr is lower
The 0,01 sizing change definitely not go improve your ev a lot haha, is true when ranges are tight (as in micros should be) sizing should be bigger
I think that if you have a lot of poker friends and info, stable can’t be a good option, forget it is the better option imo, I never be in one, but seems a hell
Glgl mate

Cheers Slava. The thinking for increasing the open size slightly is to discourage PF flats in such extortionately raked games. If a fish in the bb has to pay .37 to see a flop rather than .35, it seems small but I do think it makes a difference.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker
In for this. Good luck!

Cheers Husker, welcome to the thread dude.



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Ended up grinding for 3hrs 32mins through the night. Body-clock is still mashed but I'm going to try very hard to stay up all day and will probably be dicking about @ 10NLz and $3 spins throughout the day to pass the time.


The grind went just ok. Probably made a few bucks although there are 3 spots I'm unhappy with. The difference between me doing very well at this level and producing mediocre results is a lack of ability to find the right solutions in real-time, and a bit of a lack of discipline. I know I'm close to having the ability to produce good looking graphs, just need to start applying myself better on the tables. I'm learning more and more each day so I've just got to keep the faith that I'll start cutting out the misplays and then my graph will shoot upwards.



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H1 - Hand reminded me of another from a few weeks back where I donked rivered flush and got clicked by some fish with the NF. When this rando bets so small I'm tempted to raise but I think calling is fine. KQss seems more likely than Axss which I would've expected to bet flop IP. Also wasn't expecting MP to have weaker flushes.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $30.47
SB: $71.10
BB: $25.95
Hero (UTG): $25.94
MP: $25.99
CO: $13.84

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J 9

Hero raises to $0.62, MP calls $0.62, fold, fold, SB calls $0.52, fold

Flop: ($2.11, 3 players) A 9 T
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($2.11, 3 players) 7
SB bets $0.71, Hero calls $0.71, MP raises to $3.00, SB calls $2.29, Hero calls $2.29

River: ($11.11, 3 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $3.61, fold, Hero calls $3.61

MP shows 6 8 (Flush, Ten High)
(Pre 33%, Flop 18%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows J 9 (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 67%, Flop 82%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins $17.51
Rake paid $0.82




H2 - 16 hands, normal looking stats. I considered flatting pre and the reason I 4b-jammed is that I know when I was less experienced my PF ranges were all over the shop and I'd respond to the PF aggression badly by overbluffing, but it's just a lack of discipline on my part to assume other players are doing that. We need a read to do anything other than fold to such a big 4b. If I can eliminate this sort of **** I really will be killing this level.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $31.07
SB: $29.25
Hero (BB): $46.47
UTG: $52.46
MP: $30.50
CO: $33.44

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB raises to $7.00, Hero raises to $46.47 and is all-in, SB calls $22.25 and is all-in

Flop: ($58.50, 2 players) 9 K A

Turn: ($58.50, 2 players) 6

River: ($58.50, 2 players) 4

SB shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 74%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 26%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
SB wins $56.50
Rake paid $2.00




H3 - Another of the hands I'm unhappy with. All streets are fine until river. We don't expect them to bet turn and river with JJ or TT. They might bet one of those streets but definitely not both, in which case we beat nothing on river. It's an ill-disciplined call vs a reasonably tight player who will never be bluffing for this size.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $57.92
SB: $105.71
BB: $33.44
UTG: $21.35
Hero (MP): $29.62
CO: $30.88

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.50, fold, Hero calls $1.88

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) 3 4 9
SB bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30

Turn: ($9.85, 2 players) K
SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

River: ($20.85, 2 players) 4
SB bets $6.20, Hero calls $6.20

SB shows 9 9 (Full House, Nines full of Fours)
(Pre 19%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Fours)
(Pre 81%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB wins $31.75
Rake paid $1.50




H4 - When a < full-stacked rando donks pot here I think shoving is the optimal play.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $49.48
SB: $17.64
BB: $25.00
UTG: $42.79
MP: $56.78
CO: $47.01

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 7 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, SB calls $0.52, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.86, 3 players) Q 9 9
SB bets $1.78, fold, Hero raises to $20.10, SB calls $15.24 and is all-in

Turn: ($35.90, 2 players) Q

River: ($35.90, 2 players) 5

SB shows J J (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 81%, Flop 12%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows 7 9 (Full House, Nines full of Queens)
(Pre 19%, Flop 88%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins $34.28
Rake paid $1.62




H5 - The final of the 3 hands I spoke about that I'm unhappy with. Vs a rando. I knew AJ should be out there but got it in my head we could stack weaker turned 2prs. In reality it's phenomenally unlikely that any player will snap 3b-jam this flop with KT or QT. I'm not sure what our play is vs their donk though.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $31.86
SB: $23.05
BB: $30.27
Hero (UTG): $31.68
MP: $53.17
CO: $45.87

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q K

Hero raises to $0.62, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.52, fold

Flop: ($1.49, 2 players) 5 Q K
SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $1.00

Turn: ($3.49, 2 players) T
SB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $6.00, SB raises to $21.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $15.43

River: ($46.35, 2 players) 2

SB shows J 9 (Straight, King High)
(Pre 37%, Flop 15%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows Q K (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 63%, Flop 85%, Turn 9%)
SB wins $44.35
Rake paid $2.00




H6 - Was so happy to not get raised / win this pot.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.11
SB: $59.24
BB: $69.11
UTG: $88.74
Hero (MP): $80.16
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BTN calls $0.62, fold, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.96, 3 players) 3 9 4
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, fold

Turn: ($4.46, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $3.03, BTN calls $3.03

River: ($10.52, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $5.03, BTN calls $5.03

Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes)
(Pre 72%, Flop 78%, Turn 89%)
BTN mucks A 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Threes)
(Pre 28%, Flop 22%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins $19.65
Rake paid $0.93




H7 - Vs a reg with extremely competent looking stats. They tanked for a while and for a split-second after they called I thought I'd been slowrolled. Glad I'm heeding the advice from this thread and not over-complicating in these situations. Think it's an awful river-call by opponent but maybe they were confused by my bet/bet/bet line.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $29.31
Hero (SB): $86.73
BB: $36.25
UTG: $26.22
MP: $32.93
CO: $97.78

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A Q

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.75, fold, MP calls $2.00

Flop: ($5.75, 2 players) 9 4 5
Hero bets $2.75, MP calls $2.75

Turn: ($11.25, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $6.37, MP calls $6.37

River: ($23.99, 2 players) A
Hero bets $22.91, MP calls $21.06 and is all-in

Hero shows A Q (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 60%, Flop 24%, Turn 95%)
MP shows 6 8 (Flush, Nine High)
(Pre 40%, Flop 76%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $64.11
Rake paid $2.00




H8 - Horrible river vs a reg. Think firing again would've been bad even though I'll go for value with my sets and overpairs here. BTN actually will have way more straights by river than us.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $91.03
Hero (SB): $82.37
BB: $31.69
UTG: $25.25
MP: $25.15
CO: $27.01

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $3.15, fold, BTN calls $2.45

Flop: ($6.55, 2 players) 4 Q 8
Hero bets $4.17, BTN calls $4.17

Turn: ($14.89, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $10.50, BTN calls $10.50

River: ($35.89, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.54, fold

BTN wins $34.27
Rake paid $1.62



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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Mon 24/9/18

[X] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[X] new daily goals ITT before day is done


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So plan for the rest of the day is to stay awake until maybe 7 or 8pm tonight and get my body-clock back to a reasonable level for the first time in ages. I'll grind some 10NLz throughout the day and may post a hand or two tonight. It won't go towards the weekly volume goal though as that applies exclusively to 25NLz.



Goals for Tue 25/9/18

[ ] review daily goals before day is done

[ ] new daily goals before day is done
09-25-2018 , 05:53 PM
Ended up sleeping for a couple of hours in the day so didn't grind the lower levels like I was planning. Played 25NLz for an hour after waking though and ran hot, prob made 3 or 4 BI and played really well IMO alongside running decent.


It's only 10:30pm and I'm feeling like I'm going to sleep well tonight. Tomorrow is the start of getting back into a good routine again. I had a solid 5 or 6 weeks earlier in the thread where I was really looking after myself with a good routine, lots of fitness and excellent nutrition. I'm determined to get back to those levels because I've learnt so much about poker in the last few weeks so if I can give myself the best preparation off the tables I can maximise my ability to produce the best EV possible on the tables. Tomorrow is going to be the beginning of a great, productive period for me.



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H1 - Unfortunate vs a reg who I think is most likely getting out of line in these spots, but don't think we can call the turn even with that read. On a lot of boards I'm stationing or getting it in.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $49.83
SB: $33.60
Hero (BB): $33.82
UTG: $38.10
MP: $72.18
CO: $65.70

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB raises to $6.00, Hero calls $3.75

Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) T A 4
SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($17.00, 2 players) K
SB bets $12.02, fold

SB wins $16.24
Rake paid $0.76




H2 - River sizing is a mistake I think. We should either make a big polarised bet, or go smaller to induce bluffs vs a blocker-looking bet. I opted for the latter but should really bet slightly less, maybe something like $3. The sizing I used is big enough to be a bluff therefore villain went into bluff-catching mode. Maybe it's too optimistic to expect people to turn hands into bluffs here in which case I would've been better just going close to pot to get the most value over time.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.25
SB: $48.85
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $50.51
MP: $24.03
CO: $27.62

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.62, fold, Hero raises to $2.44, BTN calls $1.82

Flop: ($4.98, 2 players) 8 5 6
Hero bets $3.17, BTN calls $3.17

Turn: ($11.32, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($11.32, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $4.20, BTN calls $4.20

Hero shows 9 9 (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 81%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
BTN mucks 3 3 (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 19%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $18.83
Rake paid $0.89




H3 - Had no stats at the time (HUD error from early in thread is still a thing...) but knew the 3bettor is a loose reg. Thought cold-caller was a rec but I can see stats in replayer and it's actually a TAG-reg.

Discussed this in discord and, whilst I think checking would've been bad we agreed optimal line was 25% flop rather than the PSJ I opted for.



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $54.28
SB: $31.45
BB: $28.47
UTG: $38.67
Hero (MP): $26.98
CO: $26.34

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to $0.62, CO raises to $2.12, fold, SB calls $2.02, fold, Hero raises to $7.12, CO calls $5.00, SB calls $5.00

Flop: ($21.61, 3 players) 4 K A
SB checks, Hero bets $19.86 and is all-in, fold, fold

Hero wins $20.64
Rake paid $0.97




H4 - I don't usually cold-call but had 30 hands each on both villains and they both have nitty stats so didn't want to cold-4b bluff with a hand so strong. Sick one for the EV line!


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $23.78
SB: $30.29
Hero (BB): $40.05
UTG: $26.00
MP: $54.74
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.50, fold, SB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $2.00, CO calls $1.75

Flop: ($6.75, 3 players) 7 J 8
SB bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00, CO calls $4.00

Turn: ($18.75, 3 players) 8
SB bets $24.04 and is all-in, Hero calls $24.04, CO calls $18.75 and is all-in

River: ($85.58, 3 players) 4

SB shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)

Main Pot [$75.00]: (Pre 67%, Flop 2%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [$10.58]: (Pre 80%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)

Hero shows J J (Full House, Jacks full of Eights)

Main Pot [$75.00]: (Pre 17%, Flop 39%, Turn 95%)
Side Pot#1 [$10.58]: (Pre 20%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)

CO shows 9 T (Straight, Jack High)

Main Pot [$75.00]: (Pre 17%, Flop 59%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins $83.58
Rake paid $2.00




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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Tue 25/9/18

[X] review daily goals before day is done

[X] new daily goals before day is done


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Goals for Wed 26/9/18

[ ] review all saved pot-odds spots before grinding

[ ] 4.5+hrs total grind 25NLz

[ ] save at least 3 pot-odds spots for review

[ ] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[ ] new daily goals ITT before day is done
09-25-2018 , 09:57 PM
DO you play one table at a time?
09-26-2018 , 02:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleCook
DO you play one table at a time?
I play 2. I'm not far away from wanting to start mixing in sessions with a 3rd but I'm not quite there yet.

I'm also hindered by a long running HUD issue where my HUDs randomly won't update when I switch tables. On avg this affects maybe 1/30 hands. This is caused by the HH file that's created every hand for zoom HUDs to work, intermittently not refreshing properly. Pokerstars have been aware of this for many months now, in fact I've been mentioning this since the early days of this thread, but they seem completely unable to help me. I first brought this up with the PT4 support team but they showed me the issue and told me it was a stars software issue. I also haven't heard of or encountered another zoom grinder who experiences the same problem. It's really odd and extremely frustrating as it's making me blind in certain hands, such as the AKo hand from yesterday where I thought I was up against 1 reg and a cold-calling rec when in actual fact the cold-caller was a TAG reg. If I had known that at the time maybe I would've been better positioned to find the optimal solution, which was to cbet 25% on flop rather than jam pot. In fact I might not have even 4b although it worked out in this instance. Think it's likely I was up against two very strong PPs.

Last edited by ShellysAshes; 09-26-2018 at 02:52 AM.
09-26-2018 , 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
H3 - Had no stats at the time (HUD error from early in thread is still a thing...) but knew the 3bettor is a loose reg. Thought cold-caller was a rec but I can see stats in replayer and it's actually a TAG-reg.

Discussed this in discord and, whilst I think checking would've been bad we agreed optimal line was 25% flop rather than the PSJ I opted for.



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $54.28
SB: $31.45
BB: $28.47
UTG: $38.67
Hero (MP): $26.98
CO: $26.34

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to $0.62, CO raises to $2.12, fold, SB calls $2.02, fold, Hero raises to $7.12, CO calls $5.00, SB calls $5.00

Flop: ($21.61, 3 players) 4 K A
SB checks, Hero bets $19.86 and is all-in, fold, fold

Hero wins $20.64
Rake paid $0.97
Why do you think it would be bad to check? It's a nice spot to check your whole range imo. Can't think of many hands I'm comfortably betting so checking AA/KK/AK balances us nicely and we have the board on lock, with the K even.

Last edited by samcx; 09-26-2018 at 05:21 AM.
09-26-2018 , 05:10 AM
H1- you're not trapping with QQ if he's out of line rip it in his face and berate him in chat as he tanks.
H2- If you're not 3betting polar BB vs BTN then you should XC and even then xc better imo, bet river bigger also.
H3- just Xc your life away you're not giving him any chance to spaz.
H4- What hands are you raising on this flop? call is ok with a club lean towards raising more often/without a club

so trigger happy

Last edited by reloadonsashagray; 09-26-2018 at 05:17 AM.
09-26-2018 , 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by samcx
Why do you think it would be bad to check? It's a nice spot to check your whole range imo. Can't think of many hands I'm comfortably betting so checking AA/KK/AK balances us nicely and we have the board on lock, with the K even.
I suppose I was fearful of checking and allowing 2 underpairs a free shot at sets on the turn, but as you say it's a spot where the weakest hand we feel comfortable betting is top 2, in which case you're right we should be checking entire range to remain balanced. It also didn't help not knowing who the cold-caller was due to HUD issue and expecting it to be a rec with plenty of AQo and AJs type hands that would beat us into the pot drawing close to dead.



Quote:
Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
H1- you're not trapping with QQ if he's out of line rip it in his face and berate him in chat as he tanks.

QQ surely a good trap hand IP here with our read? If not QQ then KK definitely.

H2- If you're not 3betting polar BB vs BTN then you should XC and even then xc better imo, bet river bigger also.

River sizing was a mistake. To go for the small blocker induce we'd probably need their WWRR to be <100% and their other aggression stats to be pretty high. Without that read a bet of 70-100% would've been optimal and may very well have got hero-called by their exact hand, especially considering their flop-call was so bad.

H3- just Xc your life away you're not giving him any chance to spaz.

Yep.

H4- What hands are you raising on this flop? call is ok with a club lean towards raising more often/without a club

I'd raise with all lower sets for sure, JJ without the club as you say and maybe a strong NFD or something like QTcc if I have those in my range.

so trigger happy




Ty for feedback guys.
09-26-2018 , 08:55 PM
Yo. The body-clock fixage today was a bit of a fail. Fell asleep watching Harry Potter last night with the lamp switched on and the laptop next to my face. Woke up early feeling groggy as **** and, as much as I knew getting on with my day would've been for the best, the idea of grinding in a comatose state didn't appeal so I ended up going back to bed for hours. As a result I haven't quite hit the volume goal tonight as I've finished slightly early so that I can try to get a better kip tonight. Will just listen to **** on youtube in the dark so that, when I do fall asleep, I get the darkness you need to feel properly rested.


The grind went pretty well. Going back to bed might've paid off because I feel like I played as well as I have for a long time. Just good disciplined poker with a few moments of controlled aggression and quite a bit of rungood. Probably made 6 or so BI thanks to some nice holds in AI spots. There's only a couple of hands I'm unsure of but there's no way they're bad, at worst marginal and possibly just coolers.



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H1 - Sick 4b-pile from the rec vs our squeeze. No thought whatsoever, just rammed their stack into the middle with such confidence that it actually forced me to pause for thought.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
SB: $21.82
Hero (BB): $40.29
UTG: $25.00
MP: $23.38
CO: $37.73

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K A

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, Hero raises to $3.50, MP raises to $23.38 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $19.88

Flop: ($47.51, 2 players) 9 J 9

Turn: ($47.51, 2 players) 4

River: ($47.51, 2 players) 3

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 73%, Flop 81%, Turn 86%)
MP shows 6 A (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 27%, Flop 19%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins $45.51
Rake paid $2.00




H2 - Unsure about this one vs an archetypal TAG-reg. Don't actually think they have many combos of straights and trips in their range. Once they check river do we have to bet or is it spewy from us? No idea what they're raising turn with then shutting down on river.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
SB: $25.35
BB: $40.58
UTG: $56.68
MP: $26.05
Hero (CO): $62.32

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) 3 4 5
BB checks, Hero bets $1.02, BB calls $1.02

Turn: ($3.64, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets $2.12, BB raises to $7.95, Hero calls $5.83

River: ($19.54, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets $12.33, fold

Hero wins $18.66
Rake paid $0.88




H3 - Rec on the BTN. Think I can go for 3-streets here. The is a bad river, but we're not c/f river at this point, and there aren't many missed draws in their range so we may as well go for it and hope for the best.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $29.07
SB: $26.39
Hero (BB): $38.19
UTG: $51.56
MP: $32.90
CO: $26.75

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.85, fold, Hero raises to $2.80, BTN calls $1.95

Flop: ($5.70, 2 players) 5 A 6
Hero bets $3.63, BTN calls $3.63

Turn: ($12.96, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $7.29, BTN calls $7.29

River: ($27.54, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $24.47 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $26.30
Rake paid $1.24




H4 - Loose open targeting the fun-player in the bb. CO is a complete rando who ended up with a fun-player tag too after the hand. They snapped my face off on turn. Nice to learn never to bluff them this way rather than by bluffing them.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $82.54
SB: $25.56
BB: $28.00
UTG: $15.19
Hero (MP): $69.72
CO: $23.19

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K 8

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2.25, fold, fold, BB calls $2.00, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.85, 3 players) T 9 2
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $5.77, CO calls $3.77

Turn: ($18.39, 2 players) J
Hero bets $17.56, CO calls $15.17 and is all-in

River: ($48.73, 2 players) 6

Hero shows K 8 (Flush, King High)
(Pre 37%, Flop 55%, Turn 100%)
CO shows A Q (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 63%, Flop 45%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $46.73
Rake paid $2.00




H5 - Not sure about this vs a complete rando but think it's fine and just a cooler. Would've actually been way better for us if they'd had AA with no spade.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $31.22
Hero (SB): $54.35
BB: $13.62
UTG: $81.75
MP: $33.93
CO: $23.49

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.67, fold, CO raises to $5.09, Hero calls $2.42

Flop: ($10.43, 2 players) T 3 9
Hero checks, CO bets $5.00, Hero raises to $49.26 and is all-in, CO calls $13.40 and is all-in

Turn: ($47.23, 2 players) 4

River: ($47.23, 2 players) 3

Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
CO shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
CO wins $45.23
Rake paid $2.00




H6 - We've got 4 hands on 4bettor and they've done nothing. We could make a really nitty fold here but I think we have to go with it and hope it's a rec doing something appalling.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $41.17
SB: $25.26
BB: $35.54
UTG: $50.69
MP: $36.54
Hero (CO): $30.86

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.37, fold, SB raises to $5.53, fold, fold, Hero raises to $30.86 and is all-in, SB calls $19.73 and is all-in

Flop: ($51.52, 2 players) 8 5 9

Turn: ($51.52, 2 players) 4

River: ($51.52, 2 players) 4

SB shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 82%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Fours)
(Pre 18%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
SB wins $49.52
Rake paid $2.00




H7 - Some reg just randomly decided to donate towards the ascent.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $34.40
SB: $25.00
BB: $59.42
Hero (UTG): $97.36
MP: $25.00
CO: $46.64

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.50, fold, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) 2 A 6
SB bets $2.91, Hero calls $2.91

Turn: ($11.07, 2 players) K
SB bets $6.13, Hero calls $6.13

River: ($23.33, 2 players) K
SB bets $13.46 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.46

SB shows T T (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A K (Full House, Kings full of Aces)
(Pre 43%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $48.25
Rake paid $2.00




H8 - Rec envisioned their name in lights and tank-called the river.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $50.97
BB: $45.42
UTG: $21.32
MP: $48.23
CO: $68.97

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) 5 3 T
BB checks, Hero bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42

Turn: ($2.18, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.18, 2 players) T
BB bets $1.60, Hero raises to $5.22, BB calls $3.62

Hero shows T Q (Full House, Tens full of Fives)
(Pre 72%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
BB mucks Q 7 (Two Pair, Tens and Fives)
(Pre 28%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $12.05
Rake paid $0.57




H9 - Almost folded river vs some rando. Actually considered c/r the flop but think that would've been bad? By river we only beat some complete spazz or AQ going too thin. Vs a reg it's much easier to fold I think.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $24.77
SB: $30.24
BB: $20.27
Hero (UTG): $26.64
MP: $25.61
CO: $30.12

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

Hero raises to $0.62, fold, CO raises to $1.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.13

Flop: ($3.85, 2 players) 5 7 A
Hero checks, CO bets $1.32, Hero calls $1.32

Turn: ($6.49, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

River: ($12.49, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

CO shows J J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 57%, Flop 13%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks A K (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 43%, Flop 87%, Turn 0%)
CO wins $25.30
Rake paid $1.19




H10 - 13 hands, all stats are 0. Even T9o, which we block, shouldn't bet river like this. Jd is also a crucial card for us to hold.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $60.35
SB: $25.00
Hero (BB): $25.06
UTG: $59.43
MP: $60.24
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J T

UTG raises to $0.70, fold, CO calls $0.70, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($2.20, 3 players) 6 4 J
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: ($2.20, 3 players) Q
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.58, Hero calls $1.58, fold

River: ($5.36, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets $6.00, Hero calls $6.00

CO shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 63%, Flop 22%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows J T (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 37%, Flop 78%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins $16.58
Rake paid $0.78




H11 - Expect to see boats every now and again, but also think not jamming for value vs a rec would've been poor.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $85.74
SB: $29.02
Hero (BB): $124.23
UTG: $25.00
MP: $27.82
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50, 2 players) 6 3 Q
SB bets $2.15, Hero calls $2.15

Turn: ($8.80, 2 players) A
SB bets $4.20, Hero calls $4.20

River: ($17.20, 2 players) A
SB bets $8.22, Hero raises to $39.30, SB calls $12.20 and is all-in

Hero shows A K (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 75%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
SB shows A 8 (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 25%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins $56.04
Rake paid $2.00




H12 - Great turn and hold.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $32.40
Hero (SB): $62.89
BB: $25.16
UTG: $53.66
MP: $26.27
CO: $36.46

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 3 8 6
Hero bets $0.90, BB raises to $2.55, Hero calls $1.65

Turn: ($6.60, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BB bets $3.25, Hero raises to $59.59 and is all-in, BB calls $18.61 and is all-in

River: ($50.32, 2 players) 2

Hero shows 5 4 (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 26%, Turn 77%)
BB shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 74%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins $48.32
Rake paid $2.00




H13 - Expecting to be crushed sometimes here but got to go with it hoping that the rec is overplaying an OP. Mostly got the chips in good today but def ran way over EV with all the holds.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $28.65
SB: $25.00
Hero (BB): $135.54
UTG: $51.84
MP: $25.00
CO: $41.91

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T J

fold, MP raises to $0.62, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) T J 6
Hero checks, MP bets $0.62, Hero raises to $2.17, MP raises to $6.75, Hero raises to $134.92 and is all-in, MP calls $17.63 and is all-in

Turn: ($50.10, 2 players) 9

River: ($50.10, 2 players) J

Hero shows T J (Full House, Jacks full of Tens)
(Pre 22%, Flop 73%, Turn 82%)
MP shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 78%, Flop 27%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins $48.10
Rake paid $2.00




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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Wed 26/9/18

[X] review all saved pot-odds spots before grinding

[F] 4.5+hrs total grind 25NLz

4hrs 13mins

[X] save at least 3 pot-odds spots for review

Saved 4 for tomorrow.

[X] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[X] new daily goals ITT before day is done


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Goals for Thu 27/9/18

[ ] review all saved pot-odds spots before grinding

[ ] 4.5+hrs total grind 25NLz

[ ] play the $5.50 BB on PP @ 6pm (got a free ticket)

[ ] save at least 3 pot-odds spots for review

[ ] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[ ] new daily goals ITT before day is done
09-26-2018 , 09:28 PM
H1- depending how wide ppl jam here I would be cautious stacking off with AK too frequently
H2- You can x flop back bet seems ok though you're probably cbetting/betting turns at a high freq so any decent reg will start xr light river sizing seems way too big what are you expecting to call here?
H3- You can x range on turn/bet seems too big and river seems like a XC give him a chance to bluff busted draws/weaker holdings.
H4- Don't like the call pre oop flop xr is good
H5- Again not sure how tight people are pre here I imagine the call pre is fine/5bet jamming probably better oop, turn is an overplay imo what worse calls especially with J spade if he has bluffs let him.
H6- Folding QQ to a cold 4bet aint nitty seems to be a common theme here overplaying big PP's pre and justifying it somehow, you call JJ oop vs a 4bet but want to jam QQ here IP.
H7- Wp
H8- Wp can bet turn but x is fine also.
H9- You can xr flop here unblocking hearts/spades and it will punish him for over cbetting/put his Ax in horrible spots as played call down seems ok.
H10- River is dicey blocking a lot of bluffs while having the T would probably fold more than call.
H11- Cbet flop smaller and turn bigger river is fine.
H12- Flop size could be a little bigger turn seems fine given how many bad rivers there can be.
H13- Looks good.
09-27-2018 , 05:36 AM
I noticed a few hands where you dont 4bet AK, do you always flat it vs the 3bet when OOP?
09-27-2018 , 07:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
H1- depending how wide ppl jam here I would be cautious stacking off with AK too frequently
H2- You can x flop back bet seems ok though you're probably cbetting/betting turns at a high freq so any decent reg will start xr light river sizing seems way too big what are you expecting to call here?
H3- You can x range on turn/bet seems too big and river seems like a XC give him a chance to bluff busted draws/weaker holdings.
H4- Don't like the call pre oop flop xr is good
H5- Again not sure how tight people are pre here I imagine the call pre is fine/5bet jamming probably better oop, turn is an overplay imo what worse calls especially with J spade if he has bluffs let him.
H6- Folding QQ to a cold 4bet aint nitty seems to be a common theme here overplaying big PP's pre and justifying it somehow, you call JJ oop vs a 4bet but want to jam QQ here IP.
H7- Wp
H8- Wp can bet turn but x is fine also.
H9- You can xr flop here unblocking hearts/spades and it will punish him for over cbetting/put his Ax in horrible spots as played call down seems ok.
H10- River is dicey blocking a lot of bluffs while having the T would probably fold more than call.
H11- Cbet flop smaller and turn bigger river is fine.
H12- Flop size could be a little bigger turn seems fine given how many bad rivers there can be.
H13- Looks good.

Wow, sick sick analysis bro.

Agree with all the advice (other than H11 where I was the caller not the aggressor) and will definitely take on board what you say about the JJ and QQ hands where we get stacked. The JJ especially is poor isn't it when we have the nut blocker to the hands we need them to have for our shove to be close to profitable. It's a c/c and decide on turn all day.

Also I love how you originally came here to troll and have now ended up becoming my coach!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Adritchpoker
I noticed a few hands where you dont 4bet AK, do you always flat it vs the 3bet when OOP?

Generally will flat 3bs with AK although there might be some uncommon spots vs certain players where I'll 4b, especially OOP. If the player from H1, who is obviously noted for what they did there, was opening pre or 3betting our open, we'd obv be looking to get the chips in with the knowledge that they're going to be overbluffing horrendously.

IP though default will be to flat 3bs. Overplaying AK is a big leak and one I've fallen foul to. Also worth bearing in mind that when we're dominated/crushed with AK it's less likely that we'll hit TP so, over time, the boards will give us a clue as to where we're at.
09-27-2018 , 07:45 AM
I'm a bit confused myself lately helping ppl...trolling def is fun though misread H11 yep
09-28-2018 , 12:30 AM
Yo. Grind was fine today. Hit volume and ran good again, played solid enough and prob made about 5 more BI today. Definitely heatering of late, and spewing way way less which helps.

I'm a bit disappointed in how I played a few hands, mainly because I'm trigger-happy and shooting my load way too early when I'm strong. There's one in particular I'm actually embarrassed about. I guess I'll post even though my discord group have already told me how bad it is.

I think I just need to find the right balance between going hard for value, as should be default at these stakes, but also beginning to recognise when to play a bit more trappy in some key spots.


Also had PokerCrazy94 sweating me for the final session of the night. Was definitely fun to have someone else to discuss my thought processes with. Think it's also useful for ourselves to consciously explain why we're doing certain things. If you guys haven't already, check out his PGC!



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H1 - Std vs fish.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $8.36
SB: $40.29
Hero (BB): $25.90
UTG: $25.77
MP: $39.31
CO: $23.61

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50, 2 players) 3 7 5
SB bets $2.15, Hero raises to $7.00, SB raises to $25.30, Hero calls $16.65 and is all-in

Turn: ($51.80, 2 players) J

River: ($51.80, 2 players) 2

SB shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 19%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 81%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $49.80
Rake paid $2.00




H2 - Discussed this in discord. This is vs a standard 18/16 TAG. Wanted to bet a size that would induce raises from flushes whilst also getting value from KQ and KJ (and 2prs), however, I was advised to just go for normal value vs the flushes and straights. I think maybe it's too fancy to try to induce action this way but they didn't have a flush so I'm still in two minds. Maybe it's good creative poker or maybe it's missed-value. Vs this player-type it's probably more the latter.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $53.98
SB: $51.70
BB: $26.23
UTG: $17.26
MP: $24.83
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8 T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) 9 8 K
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.34, 2 players) T
BB bets $0.64, Hero raises to $2.56, BB calls $1.92

River: ($6.46, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets $2.45, BB calls $2.45

Hero shows 8 T (Full House, Eights full of Tens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 68%, Turn 9%)
BB mucks Q J (Straight, King High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 32%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins $10.85
Rake paid $0.51




H3 - Thought this was a perfect spot vs a reg to balance with a check for when we've got KK-TT and we hate the flop. Obv snapped their face off even though this would be a great line for them to take with AK and sets.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
SB: $25.00
BB: $29.03
UTG: $37.78
MP: $25.78
Hero (CO): $37.86

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A J

fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.85, 2 players) A 7 2
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.85, 2 players) 8
MP bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25

River: ($17.35, 2 players) 3
MP bets $17.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.28

MP shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 53%, Flop 7%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A J (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 47%, Flop 93%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $49.91
Rake paid $2.00




H4 - Actually think this is marginal at best by us. Should flat the 3b, they 3b a lot from BB but also flat a decent amount, and have never 3b vs the BTN. Nice hold though.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $54.80
SB: $25.10
BB: $27.29
UTG: $101.23
MP: $27.19
CO: $25.10

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB raises to $2.21, Hero raises to $5.36, BB raises to $27.29 and is all-in, Hero calls $21.93

Flop: ($54.68, 2 players) J 9 2

Turn: ($54.68, 2 players) 7

River: ($54.68, 2 players) 3

BB shows A K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 46%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 54%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins $52.68
Rake paid $2.00




H5 - Very close to folding turn vs this particular player. Had a good think and looked at their stats. The problem with calling is we're so exploitable to being bluffed on river, and it's also not a given they'll barrel their AK on this turn. However, I decided that when they do have AK, this exact player was going to have a hard time bluffing rivers and may opt to check with what they perceive to be enough SDV.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $35.73
SB: $38.34
BB: $38.89
Hero (UTG): $79.24
MP: $76.40
CO: $25.90

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, CO raises to $2.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.35, 2 players) 3 4 J
Hero checks, CO bets $3.11, Hero calls $3.11

Turn: ($10.57, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets $5.55, Hero calls $5.55

River: ($21.67, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
CO shows K K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
CO wins $20.69
Rake paid $0.98




H6 - This is embarrassing by me. Obv discord all told me it's easiest check of my life on turn. I suppose I've been berated in here earlier in thread for trying to get "trappy" in horrible spots and missing heaps of value, but I need to be more cognisant of when the situation is right to slow down. It's embarrassing because this should be really easy and there's probably weaker all round players who'd laugh at my ineptitude, but I won't be too hard on myself for being a dolt as I know I'm laying good foundations. Just need to become a bit cleverer in spots like this now and I'll be laughing.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
SB: $12.65
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $25.35
MP: $25.25
CO: $42.09

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.50, BTN raises to $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, CO calls $4.00, BTN calls $3.00

Flop: ($13.60, 3 players) A Q 7
Hero bets $3.39, CO calls $3.39, BTN calls $3.39

Turn: ($23.77, 3 players) 4
Hero bets $17.11 and is all-in, fold, BTN calls $17.11 and is all-in

River: ($57.99, 2 players) 6

Hero shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)

BTN shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)

Hero wins $55.99
Rake paid $2.00




H7 - Sigh. Once again I wish I could take this one back and flat. With AA I trap all day vs this silly reg. The sizing is SO big though, I was thinking it would've been ****ty to flat here and miss value vs AK or even something like JJ that wants to stack-off.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
SB: $46.49
Hero (BB): $30.74
UTG: $26.61
MP: $20.93
CO: $25.35

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.62, Hero raises to $1.96, SB raises to $7.50, Hero raises to $30.74 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $15.00




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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Thu 27/9/18

[X] review all saved pot-odds spots before grinding

[X] 4.5+hrs total grind 25NLz

4hrs 32mins

[X] play the $5.50 BB on PP @ 6pm (got a free ticket)

Went out before the michael buble' but got a KO.

[F] save at least 3 pot-odds spots for review

Saved none today.

[X] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[X] new daily goals ITT before day is done


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Goals for Fri 28/9/18

[ ] 3+hrs total grind 25NLz

[ ] save at least 3 pot-odds spots for review

[ ] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[ ] new daily goals ITT before day is done



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Got commitments tomorrow so won't be able to grind as much as I'd like, but will hopefully be able to get closer to the usual 4.5hrs than the 3hrs I've set.


Thanks for reading, Shelly.
09-28-2018 , 05:49 AM
I noticed you said earlier c/r AK on A75 as the preflop caller would be bad. In this situation vs a rangebet you need to be overfolding a lot and check raising aggressively and since you only have 5s and 7s and A5s at very low freq u need to be raising AK.

On some boards like AJ5 two tone vs rangebet with my ranges pio doesn't even have a calling range c/raising small with AQ+ for value and 80% of any gutters all strong flush/combo draws and Jx/set and Ax top pair blockers getting it in with AK+ and combo draws. I notice villains at 25-50z make a good amount more mistakes in position vs this strategy not being allowed to pot control valuebet and bluff at will vs your capped range.

GL on your journey
09-28-2018 , 07:34 AM
Ok I'm bored so it's 'lets help mediocre reg time' again.


H2. Even (almost all) fish won't raise straights and flushes on paired boards in 2018, but they also can't fold them which means bomb river.

H3. Don't mind checking some Ax but with that equity id prefer to bet. Interesting to see him blast off with 9s. Typical ******.

H4. Don't ever flat QQ vs blinds, just burning equity, even their bluffs are too live vs QQ. Just go nuts.

H6 meh. X is better but seen a lot worse hands.
09-28-2018 , 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BitchIAmAMartian
I noticed you said earlier c/r AK on A75 as the preflop caller would be bad. In this situation vs a rangebet you need to be overfolding a lot and check raising aggressively and since you only have 5s and 7s and A5s at very low freq u need to be raising AK.

On some boards like AJ5 two tone vs rangebet with my ranges pio doesn't even have a calling range c/raising small with AQ+ for value and 80% of any gutters all strong flush/combo draws and Jx/set and Ax top pair blockers getting it in with AK+ and combo draws. I notice villains at 25-50z make a good amount more mistakes in position vs this strategy not being allowed to pot control valuebet and bluff at will vs your capped range.

GL on your journey

Cheers.

Ye can't remember exactly what I said but thinking back to it I wish I'd gone with my gut and c/r the flop. I know that I find it very very difficult to play pots vs regs that c/r frequently so developing a better understanding of doing it myself is clearly going to help.

Do you recommend a player at my level starting to work with pio? I mean I still have huge inadequacies in some fundamental areas of the game so not sure whether I should start looking into advanced strat software just yet whilst I still have so much work to do on my basics. Could confuse the process?



Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Ok I'm bored so it's 'lets help mediocre reg time' again.


H2. Even (almost all) fish won't raise straights and flushes on paired boards in 2018, but they also can't fold them which means bomb river.

H3. Don't mind checking some Ax but with that equity id prefer to bet. Interesting to see him blast off with 9s. Typical ******.

H4. Don't ever flat QQ vs blinds, just burning equity, even their bluffs are too live vs QQ. Just go nuts.

H6 meh. X is better but seen a lot worse hands.

Ty for the feedback mate, although I'm starting to get worried that if I show too much gratitude to you guys you'll get bored and stop visiting. Semi-considering just randomly abusing you and reload to keep you interested, although maybe I'm just overthinking my "how best to induce free-coaching" strat similar to overthinking the induce in H2?




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Yo. Tough grind today. Struggled to get much going. Ran poorly in a lot of small-medium spots although got lucky in some allins. AIEV line is going to look ridiculous at the end of the week barring a torturous next few days.


One big positive to take from the day is that, although when running bad it's easy to feel like you're being exploited, I feel I played close to my max-level all day. Working very hard on maintaining discipline more than anything these days because I know that I'm at a point now where I can produce tidy graphs at the level, but only providing I don't go blasting off stacks in silly spots. Being able to feel like I'm playing solid even when enduring the frustration of struggling to get much going in games that are popping gives me belief and confidence that I can reproduce the same level in future sessions where things also don't go my way.




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H1 - Unfortunate vs a rec but what are we gona do. Just got to pay that man his maney.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $16.56
SB: $19.09
BB: $26.57
UTG: $20.60
Hero (MP): $28.99
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A A

UTG raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.65, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.80

Flop: ($5.65, 2 players) Q 7 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.58, UTG calls $1.58

Turn: ($8.81, 2 players) 6
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, UTG raises to $10.75, Hero raises to $24.46, UTG calls $5.62 and is all-in

River: ($41.55, 2 players) Q

UTG shows 6 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Queens)
(Pre 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 9%)
UTG wins $39.68
Rake paid $1.87




H2 - I've saved this for pot-odds review because, honestly, it's super likely I'm drawing to just 3 outs (that we can get their stack with) on turn. Always awkward to know what adjustments, if any, people make in multi-way pots. Like if this tight semi-reg is betting a NFD on this flop I think that's atrocious. It's not impossible we got bluffed but I can't see it at all.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.65
SB: $66.38
BB: $55.50
Hero (UTG): $35.64
MP: $32.35
CO: $29.17

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K T

Hero raises to $0.62, MP calls $0.62, CO calls $0.62, BTN calls $0.62, SB calls $0.52, fold

Flop: ($3.35, 5 players) K 8 7
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $1.60, fold, SB calls $1.60, Hero calls $1.60, fold

Turn: ($8.15, 3 players) K
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, fold, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($13.15, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets $7.75, fold

CO wins $12.56
Rake paid $0.59




H3 - "Come on mate, how many 6s do you have really?...oh, you have two of them." Come to think of it, looking at the bet sizes maybe there was a big clue.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $29.77
SB: $30.87
Hero (BB): $38.56
UTG: $66.25
MP: $25.45
CO: $27.37

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T J

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.62, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.24, 2 players) 4 T 3
SB bets $0.89, Hero calls $0.89

Turn: ($3.02, 2 players) 5
SB bets $2.16, Hero calls $2.16

River: ($7.34, 2 players) 7
SB bets $5.26, Hero calls $5.26

SB shows 6 6 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 50%, Flop 12%, Turn 23%)
Hero mucks T J (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 50%, Flop 88%, Turn 77%)
SB wins $17.06
Rake paid $0.80




H4 - Hate this turn vs some rec but think I've just got to jam and pray haven't I?


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $32.11
SB: $24.38
Hero (BB): $29.51
UTG: $25.00
MP: $39.30
CO: $25.80

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $4.00, fold, fold, BTN calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.60, 2 players) 3 7 9
Hero bets $6.11, BTN calls $6.11

Turn: ($21.82, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $19.40 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $20.84
Rake paid $0.98




H5 - Honestly, this might look like repeating previous mistakes with overplaying PPs, but vs this insane 3betting reg (14% total, 18% from sb, close to 300 hand sample) and even with the Js which is a poor card for us to have, I feel OK getting it in here and just making a note. With those 3b stats think we have to assume we can be getting it in against all sorts of draws. Have no idea if this is good or not from them.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $35.39
SB: $25.00
BB: $25.35
UTG: $23.68
Hero (MP): $40.14
CO: $15.65

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.75, fold, Hero calls $2.13

Flop: ($5.75, 2 players) 6 2 5
SB checks, Hero bets $2.75, SB raises to $9.00, Hero raises to $37.39 and is all-in, SB calls $13.25 and is all-in

Turn: ($50.25, 2 players) 9

River: ($50.25, 2 players) Q

SB shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 80%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 20%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
SB wins $48.25
Rake paid $2.00




H6 - One of few hands all day where I thought "ah poker isn't so hard afterall".


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $27.05
BB: $25.00
UTG: $43.73
MP: $109.24
CO: $28.15

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 3 3

UTG raises to $0.62, MP calls $0.62, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.52, fold

Flop: ($2.11, 3 players) T 3 Q
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1.08, Hero raises to $3.53, fold, MP calls $2.45

Turn: ($9.17, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $5.96, MP calls $5.96

River: ($21.09, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $16.94 and is all-in, MP calls $16.94

Hero shows 3 3 (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
MP shows A Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 47%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $52.97
Rake paid $2.00




H7 - Honestly no idea what to do on such a dirty turn. Think we should be potting flop really to set up a comfortable turn-pile.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $54.47
Hero (SB): $42.25
BB: $25.25
UTG: $72.66
MP: $23.00
CO: $29.17

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8 8

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.67, fold, MP calls $1.92

Flop: ($5.59, 2 players) 8 J T
Hero bets $3.56, MP calls $3.56

Turn: ($12.71, 2 players) K
Hero bets $20.00, MP calls $16.77 and is all-in

River: ($46.25, 2 players) T

Hero shows 8 8 (Full House, Eights full of Tens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 73%, Turn 23%)
MP shows A Q (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 27%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins $44.25
Rake paid $2.00




H8 - Ye not folding ever. Opener is a passive rec. 23/11, 9% RFI. Obv fear the worst when they flat but then I bet this player would do the same with QQ and JJ, maybe even AK and AQs.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $37.04
SB: $25.70
BB: $12.49
UTG: $41.68
MP: $24.25
CO: $40.85

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K K

UTG raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.67, fold, BB raises to $12.49 and is all-in, UTG calls $11.74, Hero raises to $37.04 and is all-in, UTG calls $24.55

Flop: ($86.67, 3 players) 5 6 Q

Turn: ($86.67, 3 players) 9

River: ($86.67, 3 players) 7

UTG shows A A (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [$37.57]: (Pre 75%, Flop 95%, Turn 98%)
Side Pot#1 [$49.10]: (Pre 80%, Flop 95%, Turn 98%)

Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [$37.57]: (Pre 18%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [$49.10]: (Pre 20%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)

BB shows A T (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [$37.57]: (Pre 7%, Flop 0.4%, Turn 0%)

UTG wins $84.67
Rake paid $2.00




H9 - Sigh. A bit gutted about this one. Was actually going to bet turn and pile all rivers other than Ax. Think it's a nightmare for AK and AQ especially. Even AA. When they pile we don't have the odds, especially considering they could have turned the nuts. Only positive from the hand is I was able to quickly work out how bad our odds are in-game, so the studying is paying off at least.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $27.33
SB: $25.00
BB: $23.51
UTG: $25.00
Hero (MP): $28.27
CO: $23.43

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T A

fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.40, fold, Hero calls $1.78

Flop: ($5.05, 2 players) Q K 5
SB bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

Turn: ($9.85, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets $4.10, SB raises to $20.20 and is all-in, fold

SB wins $17.24
Rake paid $0.81




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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Fri 28/9/18

[X] 3+hrs total grind 25NLz

4hrs 23mins

[X] save at least 3 pot-odds spots for review

Saved 5 to study pre-session tomorrow.

[X] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[X] new daily goals ITT before day is done


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Goals for Sat 29/9/18

[ ] review all pot-odds spots before grinding

[ ] 5.5+hrs total grind 25NLz

[ ] play the weekly 10k freeroll

[ ] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[ ] new daily goals ITT before day is done



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Got a busy day tomorrow off the tables but going to be grinding all evening. Hopefully can capitalise because the games were so soft earlier.
09-29-2018 , 01:44 AM
H1- Good old I'm ******ed min raise turn hehe
H2- err? Cbet flop/xr flop...xc here nope....if so xc all the way.
H3- Folding river as played
H4- Again this board texture is not in your favour, XC keep bluffs in we have a diamond ffs, still overplaying these big PP's on the worst boards for your range.
H5- The **** is ****...X back flop/don't fkn jam over his xr...as played probably folding to flop xr, 300 hand sample lol fk me turn your hud off for a bit.
H6- WP
H7- 3bet pre seems pretty wide tbh not opposed to potting flop turn is fine
H8- Pretty awful spot calling pre in pos is better than jamming probably or just folding as nitty as it sounds(obv not for 100bb), BB cold 4bet in this spot would be extremely tight imo.
H9- Starting to see a common theme here? you're betting too frequently without ranging opponents correctly and constantly putting yourself in awful spots.

>Your awareness of board textures and how they interact with your range/opponents is not there.
>You're flop/turn cbet/betting is more than likely too high as a result of not understanding what I stated above.
>Justifying mistakes with mediocre evidence to support them won't help you.
>Showing gratitude to me/randomly abusing to keep me interested....priceless.
09-29-2018 , 11:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
H1- Good old I'm ******ed min raise turn hehe
H2- err? Cbet flop/xr flop...xc here nope....if so xc all the way.
H3- Folding river as played
H4- Again this board texture is not in your favour, XC keep bluffs in we have a diamond ffs, still overplaying these big PP's on the worst boards for your range.
H5- The **** is ****...X back flop/don't fkn jam over his xr...as played probably folding to flop xr, 300 hand sample lol fk me turn your hud off for a bit.
H6- WP
H7- 3bet pre seems pretty wide tbh not opposed to potting flop turn is fine
H8- Pretty awful spot calling pre in pos is better than jamming probably or just folding as nitty as it sounds(obv not for 100bb), BB cold 4bet in this spot would be extremely tight imo.
H9- Starting to see a common theme here? you're betting too frequently without ranging opponents correctly and constantly putting yourself in awful spots.

>Your awareness of board textures and how they interact with your range/opponents is not there.
>You're flop/turn cbet/betting is more than likely too high as a result of not understanding what I stated above.
>Justifying mistakes with mediocre evidence to support them won't help you.
>Showing gratitude to me/randomly abusing to keep me interested....priceless.

Once again ty for feedback.

Been thinking about the last bullet points all day and you're totally correct, I'm all at sea way too often. As a result, once I get this week over and done with, I'm going to start grinding flopzilla hard in the hope that I can start to build a much better awareness of range interaction on certain textures and whatnot.

Not totally sure how to approach it but I may end up going for a play/study ratio of something like 2/1 until I start feeling much more confident in what I'm doing. Think it will also be very useful to practise building PF ranges away from the tables.

You ****ing slag.
09-29-2018 , 09:51 PM
H2. Don't even think about folding top range when ur getting such a good price. Start thinking about folding if he pots it.
09-30-2018 , 12:03 AM
Difficult day again but think I made a few bucks in the end, although had 450bb on one of my tables and that had bled down to about 150bb by the end. Super frustrating when the games are so soft but the deck is being stubborn. I also didn't play close to my best tonight and could've saved money in a few spots.

Completely forgot to do the pre-session studying and the first click of the day I played like a bit of a monkey. I do think those two things are related because, even just 20 or so mins warming up by thinking about ranges has to be optimal.

Went away and had some food, then when I came back I was suffering with some resistance to the grind for the first time in a while. As a result I've not quite hit the volume goal, though ended up playing for longer than my re-adjusted goal because I couldn't pull myself away from such soft games. It sucks that I lost money for staying longer but I put myself in a +EV spot so that's all you can do really.



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H1 - Don't think this is a good bluff vs a reg who flats the BTN quite wide. Flop and turn are fine although I've got no idea about river. Just seems like a spot where all the flop draws miss so we're getting snapped by QJs and even some Tx.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.08
SB: $25.59
BB: $29.70
UTG: $28.75
Hero (MP): $25.00
CO: $99.21

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K J

fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BTN calls $0.62, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.59, 2 players) T Q 3
Hero bets $1.01, BTN calls $1.01

Turn: ($3.61, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $2.24, BTN calls $2.24

River: ($8.09, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $5.85, BTN raises to $21.21 and is all-in, fold

BTN wins $18.90
Rake paid $0.89




H2 - Vs some rec. I'm not folding at any point but I have no idea if I'm supposed to call/call rather than jam turn. EV line is going to be beyond embarrassing by end of this week.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $27.62
SB: $29.99
Hero (BB): $26.70
UTG: $28.72
MP: $54.33
CO: $32.16

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.62, Hero raises to $1.87, SB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.74, 2 players) J 6 2
SB checks, Hero bets $1.79, SB raises to $4.00, Hero calls $2.21

Turn: ($11.74, 2 players) 7
SB bets $7.22, Hero raises to $20.83 and is all-in, SB calls $13.61

River: ($53.40, 2 players) 2

SB shows 5 K (Flush, King High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 66%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows J J (Full House, Jacks full of Twos)
(Pre 68%, Flop 34%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins $51.40
Rake paid $2.00




H3 - One of the worst calls I've made in ages vs a fish. I beat nothing but a complete spazz. It's horrific. Am I meant to bet turn vs a player I perceive as extremely wide pre? If I bet turn it gives me a much easier river decision, and against this player I think we can get plenty of value.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $77.38
Hero (SB): $30.26
BB: $25.00
UTG: $23.09
MP: $38.15
CO: $25.95

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J A

fold, MP raises to $0.62, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.61, fold, MP calls $1.99

Flop: ($5.47, 2 players) 4 Q 6
Hero bets $2.51, MP calls $2.51

Turn: ($10.49, 2 players) A
Hero checks, MP bets $4.21, Hero calls $4.21

River: ($18.91, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, MP bets $16.07, Hero calls $16.07

MP shows 3 4 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 73%, Turn 32%)
Hero mucks J A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 62%, Flop 27%, Turn 68%)
MP wins $49.05
Rake paid $2.00




H4 - Dream turn vs a rec.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $106.31
SB: $60.34
Hero (BB): $37.60
UTG: $132.19
MP: $11.18
CO: $44.46

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.57, BTN calls $0.57, fold, Hero calls $0.32

Flop: ($1.81, 3 players) T T 6
Hero checks, CO bets $0.59, BTN calls $0.59, Hero calls $0.59

Turn: ($3.58, 3 players) 7
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero raises to $10.00, fold, BTN calls $7.50

River: ($23.58, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $26.44 and is all-in, BTN calls $26.44

Hero shows 6 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Tens)
(Pre 50%, Flop 98%, Turn 95%)
BTN shows 8 9 (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 50%, Flop 2%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $74.46
Rake paid $2.00




H5 - Nitty as **** reg running at something like 13/5, and hasn't made a single 3b in 200 hands. Is folding turn here OK?


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $24.58
Hero (SB): $51.00
BB: $30.61
UTG: $25.00
MP: $27.02
CO: $22.27

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T T

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.75, BB calls $2.50, fold

Flop: ($6.25, 2 players) 6 6 5
Hero checks, BB bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

Turn: ($12.75, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB bets $5.00, fold

BB wins $12.18
Rake paid $0.57




H6 - Vs a reasonably aggressive reg. Loose 3b but I rarely 3b in these positions so JTs seems a good hand to mix in.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $30.97
SB: $24.25
BB: $33.77
UTG: $40.01
MP: $25.00
Hero (CO): $75.01

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J T

UTG raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.67, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.92

Flop: ($5.69, 2 players) 9 6 8
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.72, UTG calls $2.72

Turn: ($11.13, 2 players) Q
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.72, UTG calls $6.72

River: ($24.57, 2 players) 3
UTG checks, Hero bets $62.90 and is all-in, UTG calls $27.90 and is all-in

Hero shows J T (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 20%, Flop 37%, Turn 100%)
UTG shows K K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 80%, Flop 63%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $78.37
Rake paid $2.00




H7 - Tanked for ages vs a complete rando, deciding if I could raise or not, but on balance I think I was right to just flat. Obv if this spot came up against this player again I'd know to jam.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00
SB: $32.16
BB: $28.11
UTG: $31.37
MP: $25.98
Hero (CO): $112.15

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, fold, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) J 7 T
BB checks, Hero bets $0.85, BB calls $0.85

Turn: ($3.04, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.04, 2 players) 2
BB bets $6.00, Hero calls $6.00

BB shows J 4 (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 38%, Flop 45%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows 9 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 62%, Flop 55%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins $14.36
Rake paid $0.68




H8 - Sigh. Some aggro reggish guy that appeared tonight. I think it's not impossible they were just beyond spazzy, but when they do this and we don't have strong information there's no way we can continue.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.45
SB: $82.29
BB: $37.55
UTG: $45.30
MP: $37.38
Hero (CO): $107.77

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.60, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.60, BTN raises to $12.75, fold

BTN wins $13.55




H9 - Calling here was a thoughtless mistake vs some fun-player, but only because their donk-jam was lightning quick. If they stop and think even for just a moment or two I'm much happier to call it off and expect to see all sorts of nonsense. If they checked I was going to induce with a tiny cbet.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $14.62
SB: $20.82
BB: $61.38
UTG: $12.23
MP: $26.52
Hero (CO): $87.71

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.85, fold, Hero raises to $3.33, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $2.48

Flop: ($7.01, 2 players) 3 9 5
UTG bets $8.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $8.90

Turn: ($24.81, 2 players) 7

River: ($24.81, 2 players) 2

UTG shows 9 T (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 37%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero shows A K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 63%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
UTG wins $23.69
Rake paid $1.12




H10 - Sigh river. Don't think we can call, especially as we block some GSSD that a fish could have. AA would be a better call. I was blind during the hand as HUD issue had occurred, but was fairly certain it was against a rec. Would've sized up to go for the full stack if I'd had actual stats.


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $73.33
Hero (SB): $56.46
BB: $25.68
UTG: $22.50
MP: $21.90
CO: $26.15

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K K

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, BTN calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.75, fold, fold, BTN calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50, 2 players) 3 9 J
Hero bets $4.06, BTN calls $4.06

Turn: ($16.62, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $9.00, BTN calls $9.00

River: ($34.62, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN bets $16.53, fold

BTN wins $33.06
Rake paid $1.56




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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellysAshes
Goals for Sat 29/9/18

[F] review all pot-odds spots before grinding

[F] 5.5+hrs total grind 25NLz

4hrs 5mins

[X] play the weekly 10k freeroll

Cashed for literally about tree-fiddy.

[X] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[X] new daily goals ITT before day is done


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Goals for Sun 30/9/18

[ ] review all pot odds spots before grinding

[ ] 3rs 13mins + total grind 25NLz (to complete weekly volume goal)

[ ] review daily goals ITT before day is done

[ ] review long-term goals ITT before day is done

[ ] new long-term goals ITT before day is done

[ ] new daily goals ITT before day is done
09-30-2018 , 12:31 AM
H2 - I would call turn yeah.
H5 - Despite his nittiness (small sample) I would go ahead and bet <1/2p OTF for value/protection from AK/AQ and value from 88/99, probably check/fold OTT if he bombs it, the way we played it works out the same way but we don't expect this villain to bet Ax otf IMO.
H6 - Remember to keep an eye on blinds before we decide on a 3b or not. (there is a guy not brought in full which could mean nothing but just making the point to check stats/stack sizes even though you may do anyway)

      
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