I will not be this weekend. I booked a loss last night and dipped below 6000 again. That damn downswing really messed up my shot taking idea. I’m excited and anxious about it so hopefully it is coming soon!! I plan on playing tonight but I’m heading home as well in the morning for Father’s Day. I’ll have a session update after I respond to this. I play at Jack Casino in Cincinnati OH. How is you’re grinding going?

Thanks man!! I enjoy going back and reading some of the dumb things I did and some of the good things I did! It helps keep me accountable and honest with my winnings and losses! Thanks for tuning in!!

Session #34
Started at 4:45p
In for a total of $500
Cashed out for $248
Bankroll is at $5960 (this includes the $160 added from the paid to play promo on Tuesday)

Got stuck pretty early. I would open pots and just completely whiff or I would 3bet and then I would get jammed on and have to fold. 3 bet AA, sb called flop came KJ3ccx sb jammed like 120 I called and we held up. Pretty decent pot, 450 ish. Had my stack up to 560 but couldn’t push through that. First table I sat at was really boring with OMCs trying to get their 8 hours in (promo day yesterday). I table changed to s tougher game but I had position and there was much more action. Had to rebuy early on that table, then ran the aa vs ak as mentioned. Eventually the game became really good, there was a decent sized fish, one guy who didn’t know how to play but kept rebuying, another who was ordering 9 dollar margaritas and another who was just lag, I’ve mentioned him before in previous sessions, loud, bs’er. (We ll call him Crazy H from now on). An interesting hand of note. V (decent size fish), has been calling all ins with gut shots, backdooors, jamming with 2nd and 3rd pair. Lag player opens to 12 from ep, I 3 bet KJo to 30 in mp, lp V calls, lag player calls. Flop J38r, ep checks I bet 35, lp V tries to go all in but it is a string bet so it’s deemed just 75 based on the first stack he put in. He has like 30 behind. I end up just jamming to get it in. I think this is an okay play, based on the hands I’ve played and watched him play. I think folding is too weak but calling an all in is too strong. He ended up having 33 for the set. I guess players like him will get paid more often than average. It’s always a little disappointing going card dead, which I was when the game was good and 6 handed, or not being able to pick off some of those obviously inferior players. I know there ll be more opportunities I just don’t like letting one slip.

Hi Shake. I think that hand, where you can up against the fishes set, was perfectly played, based on your info on him.
But, speaking of info, you mentioned how you got stuck early, again.
This happens to all of us but, could it be that you're jumping into the mix early on in your sessions without waiting a bit to first get an accurate read and feel for the table?
I'm mean, even if you know the players already, when you first sit down, you don't necessarily know, who's stuck, who's running hot, all factors that will possibly change the way they usually play.

That makes me feel a little better, that you think I played it correctly. I figured he could show up so much junk or weaker 1 pairs that I have to just call it off. But as for getting stuck early in sessions, I’ve thought a lot about why it happens more often than not and how to aviod or mitigate it. Typically if I drop below 115-120 ish I top off for 100 more because I don’t like playing short stacked and if I do pick up a hand Id like to get the full value. It is very possible that I jump in a tad early without knowing who is running hot vs stuck. Obviously sometimes you can’t help getting in early, but I think I am a pretty discipline player and am attentive enough at the table. I do think sometimes I get mixed up early in the session with the wrong player by not knowing if they are calling stations or if they back down to aggression. Maybe whenever I get stuck early I will start to make a note in my session log as to why I think it happened.

Yeah, sounds, by what you just wrote, that that has at least something to do with it.
Having said that, it happens to all of us and actually, I even recommended it once!
Let me explain, in the forum, one of our brothers was asking for advice, on how to loosen up his tight image. Or, at least, he thought he had a tight image.
What I recommended was, as unorthodox as it seems, to call light on the river sometimes, to give the impression of a fishy player, in order to get more action down the line.
What I meant by light was, and maybe I should have stressed this more, let's say I have AQ and the board is k 10 2 9 Q. Let's say pot is 60 and villain bets a dinky 35. You call, knowing that you're most likely behind but you could also possibly have a small chance of actually having the winner.
You're advertising. Giving off false impressions of a fishy player.
I don't have any concrete hands in memory so I hope this example wasn't too sloppy.
Of course, if you do lose the hand, you're starting the session from behind.
What I don't think I stressed in my first post is, and now I regret it, that this isn't a play you're going to make very often and it's very read and feel dependent. Sometimes, the way the hand goes down, you just know that villain busted a straight draw and is bluffing to buy the pot.
Plus, not everyone is psychologically strong enough to take a hit and stay on top of their game.
Anyway, I'm stealing the show shake. Hope that made sence.

This makes total sense. I actually don't mind this strategy at all and sometimes do this as I am a tighter player. I have been caught bluffing all in on my first bullet before and gone on to win 4-500 on the night just because of the fact I showed that I am capable of making that bluff. Of course it isnt always a great idea but it is for sure something that factors in. Keep it up with the ideas, strats, theories and comments, I really appreciate the interaction.

Of course, a nice bluff and show is a much more conventional way of achieving the same end.
Glad to be of service but sorry shake, you won't be seeing me too often telling you how to play your x's and o's. There's a lot of people on this forum who can do that a lot better than me. But,i'll be more than glad to share any more of my "unconventional" poker wisdom.
Of course, something like this is even only necessary, depending on the table dynamics.

Session #35
In for a total of $300
Started at 5:00p
Out at 1:00a for $265
Bankroll is at $6085 (added $160 from last Thursday’s paid to play)

Took a break while I was home for father’s day. Topped off for 100 about 2 hours in after I had A4hh on a 235hhx flop. I limped utg2 pre with a4hh, sb and bb complete. I bet 6 on the flop, bb calls, turn Kx bb checks I bet 6 again, he raises to 15 I call. River 8o he bets 35 ish with like 50 behind I jam he calls with 64o.. sigh. Idk I probably should be folding or opening the pot with A4hh, sometimes I limp weak nutted hands. That’ll be the last time I do that! Lol! That’s what this session analysis is for right? I switched seats to the left of some big stacks, picked up KQo oop vs a very lag player who said he just got his tax refund and that there won’t be many 2 dollar hands lol. I opened to 8 from ep he’s to my direct left and calls, 3 more callers flop is KQTr I bet 35, lag player jams for 130 more. No way I fold here vs him but not my favorite spot. I call and he turns over AA. Not sure why he didn’t 3bet! Oh well we scoop and are at 350. Never broke 350 tho. Two 5/5 players sat down waiting for their games and were dumping money and giving action. I get so damn frustrated when players like this sit down and I am card dead. This is the second session fun players have sat down and I have failed to pick up a hand before they leave. They played a very interesting hand, utg opens to 12, utg2 calls, co 5/5 player raises to 26, btn 5/5 player jams for 363 lol utg calls 363, utg2 calls all in for 75, co jams 365 utg calls 2. Lol 1100 dollar pot. Utg has AKo, utg2 has A5ss, co has AKhh, btn has 44. Flop 4T9r turn 2 river 3. Wish I could get a piece of that.. other than that my session was boring and card dead. I’m getting pretty exhausted of working 9 hours in an office and then playing 8 hours and getting like 3-4 hours of sleep, it’s nice to get paid the 160 but I’ll be glad when June is over.

Session #36
Started at 4:50p
In for a total for $365
Cashed out at 12:51p for $1600
Bankroll is at $7480 ($160 from promo added)

The first 5 hours I was about as card as as you can get, folding, raising pre and getting blown off the hand or just completely whiffing the flop. I picked up some hand that got me to 250 I can’t remember. Then I went on this hour and a half heater. It is was nuts. I picked up kxkx, i 3 bet them to 30 2 callers flop comes 32Qxss I bet 35 plo player raises me I 3bet Jam he calls with 34ss, I hold up for about 525 dollar pot. Few hands later I have ATcc ip, high looking guy opens for 10 I flat, I should be 3 betting this player type but ap, 2 other callers. Flop is KT2cxx high guy leads for 25 I call others fold turn 9c high guy checks I bet 35 he raises me to 75, I call knowing my implied odds are there and my AT might be good a % of the time against this player, river 4c, he checks I bet 175 he tank calls and didn’t show. Few hands later 2 limps I have QQ in mp I open to 12 sb (Matt) 3 bets to 35, normally I 4 bet but I have decent amount history with him, we are deeper stacked and hmmm 4 bet range is so much more polar than my flat range, he has about 5-600 behind, I flat, flop comes JT4r he bets 45 I call turn Qo he checks I bet 60 he calls, river 5o, he checks, I bet 110 he thinks and calls and throws his cards in the muck. Few hands later I have AA in ep 2 limps i open to 12 2 callers flop Q38ddx I bet 35 2 callers, turn 4x I bet 60 same plo player makes it 130 with like 60 behind, I jam he reluctantly folds.?? Idk why he folded, he had been talking about how he knows so much about poker and the math behind it, just kind of an annoying player. Few hands later high guy opens for 10 I flat matt flats on btn, flop J48xxc checks to me i bet 20 matt calls high guy folds, turn 6c i bet 50 matt jams for 130 I call and we are good. I would like to think I played above average to build that stack but it was mainly just a 90 minute run good streak and I got max value. It feels good to break out of this 1200 dollar up and down cycle on my charts. I will now be looking at optimal spots to shot take 2/5, which I am excited about and a little nervous too. I think if I aggressively game select and play solid I should be ok.

Great session man. Congrats!
Will edit for more later

Session #37
Started at 7:02p
In for $400
Out for $292 at 10:12pm
Bankroll is at $7532 ($160 added from promo)

Won the first two pots I played to get up to $250. Picked up KQcs in mp and opened to 12, btn and utg who limped call. Flop 228cxx utg checks I bet 20 btn fold utg calls, turn Td utg checks I bet 35 utg calls, river 7c. He checks I jam 103 he snaps...with 22. Loll nh! I’ve played briefly with this player and I wouldn’t consider him a thinking player but he’s also not bad. I think if I had both the K & Q of c then I like my jam better. Ap I feel like he can’t call an all in with a single pair. The more I type this hand out the more I realize I played this hand like a fish. I need to start thinking in terms of, what hands does he limp call pre, check call flop check call turn and check the river, instead of thinking, he can’t call here because I don’t think he has anything. Costly mistake on my end. After that hand I rebought and lost 50 to a guy who backed into a runner runner wheel. About 20 minutes later I opened 86cc in utg2 to 8 got 4 callers flop gave me a gutter 45khhx checks around turn 7o I bet 20 hj calls, river 7o, I over bet jam 150ish and she called for less with a 7, it worked out perfectly because she said she thought I would have done the same thing with a busted flush draw. I ended up getting back about 100 of my loss which I guess is a positive. Last week of 8 hours on tues and Thursday, I’m excited to get this month over with

Thanks ski, it was a crazy hour and half when I went on that heater. Biggest win ever for me, really nice boost to my bankroll!

Session #38
In for $200 at 4:00p
Out for $438 at 12:01a
Bankroll is at $7770

Never dipped below 200 and just kept climbing for about 7.5 hours. Had my stack up to 620 and then called a turn jam for 79 which was 2x the pot. I got my money in as a 3:1 favorite. I had QTcc on a T84sdc 8d board ep jams, I know he’s a loose player and probably has a draw. So called it off and he hit his D on the river (Ad). He has J4dd Oh well. That took me down about 100. I opened A3cc in mp to 8, I get 2 callers in lp, flop came KJ5xxc, checks through, turn brings another 7c, I bet 16, 1 caller, river Qo I bet 30 and get snapped by the nut straight, I then flopped two way nut straight and nut flush draws and paired up on the turn and bricked the river and lost the min to two pair but still lost. I find my self in spots where all I have is the nut flush draw on the river and I feel like I have to bet. I know I don’t need to but I feel like in spots like that ace high isn’t good and the only way to win is to bet. Maybe I should be mixing up checks, bets and check raises on boards that fit each of those scenarios. On a positive note I was making correct calls pretty much the entire session. The QT hand was a good call vs that player type. I made another nice call with AK on a very coordinated board. Guy to my right had been opening a lot of pots, he opened to 7, I 3 bet AKds ip to 21 one of the lp players calls. Flop AQ3xss he donks 15, I think about raising but if he has KK, Qx or any bluff / semibluff I don’t wanna blow him off it, I decided on a flat, lp folds. Turn 10o he bets 25 I call river 2s he jams 163 I tank for a minute or 2, talked my self through the hand and eventually decided on a call. I kind of had a read where he wouldn’t do that with a straight or a flush because he would want to make it more valuey. It’s kind of odd but if he bets less I probably fold and if he bets the size he does I’m more likely to call. I also have the Ks in my hand which plays a big role into my thought. Pretty solid session. I need to work on figuring out what to do when I’m left holding the bag with ace hi on the river.

That's a pretty intense schedule man. Even with 6k-ish in your BR I would still be keeping an eye out for some good 2/5 games. I know its good to be conservative but at the same time i wouldn't turn down the opportunity to play in a possibly +EV game if one were to pop up at higher stakes. I know in my local area at least its like there are certain time slots on certain days where the 2/5's play extremely soft and are playing more or less just straight up "fit or fold" from opponents perspective. The 2/5 on a Wednesday at 9pm is going to play a lot different from the 2/5 on a Saturday before noon for the most part. I think you could endure it; maybe just tighten up and be more observant of game flow and dynamic but id go for it if I were you. GL on the grind.

It has been pretty intense. Oddly enough I like the feeling of being a little tired the next day. Something about it feels like I accomplished something. lol. I have Saturday night scheduled as the day I will be looking to play 2/5, so as long as nothing terrible happens, I will be in the mix. I have recently started bringing enough to play 2/5 incase it gets juicy but I would rather play on a weekend. I think I can endure it as well as long as I am playing solid, I am a little nervous and anxious but that is to be expected. What casino is your local one? GL to you too!!

Session #39
In for a total of $215
Started at 7:33p
Out for $297 at 10:24p
Bankroll is at $8012 ($160 added for promo)

Real short session, I was hesistant about going down but decided I would go down and just see how the games were. I got in what I thought would be a good game. A lady was having a good time and taking shots of fireball and having a mixed drink in the other. She ended up giving hardly any action which was kind of surprising. She asked me to do a shot with her since I beat her in a decent pot, I figured it would pay for itself later but it really didn’t lol. Early in the session I opened 77 and got 3 bet and decided on a fold. Idk if that is too tight but I didn’t wanna call and play oop. Against a different player I may flat and try to out play them or 4bet and try to take it down there. Few hands later I opened KQs 2 caller, flop comes all undercard rainbow and I c bet and the same guy raises me. Idk if I was giving off a tell or if I was showing weakness but I folded there too. I stacked a different lady for about 50 when I flopped open ended and she raised me and got there on the turn. Other than that pretty boring session. Hoping to run good today for the last promo day! Then 2/5 on Saturday!!

Session #40
In for a total of $390
Started at 5:10p
Out for $225 at 1:13a
Bankroll is at $7847

I was pretty tired this session. I’m gonna be taking a break tonight and rest up so I can get a good session in tomorrow (Saturday). lost a hand that made me mad poker, I didn’t tilt, it was just a grinding frustration. First 5 minutes got up to 285 and then got way to frisky / ool when I check jammed QJcc on the turn. Board was A2Tcxx4c. I only lost about 80 bucks that hand since I wasn’t the effective stack but still. This next hand made me mad at poker and I debating quitting the session, utg2 limps, co limps, I open AKdd on btn to 12, blinds fold, both limpers call. Flop AQ3r checks to me I bet 18 utg2 calls co folds. Turn 8o utg2 checks I bet 35, utg2 jams for 130. I call it off and he asks if I have AQ. River is a 4o he has Q3dd. This hand made me really mad at the game. It was an inward anger tho not like a verbal outburst or telling him what I thought he did wrong, I just don’t do that. It was just an inner pissed offness. Idk if that makes sense. I rebought and grabbed dinner to decide if I wanted to quit the game or not. I decided I would lock down and try to grind through it, I made a really nice call with KK on a 4 flush board which got me up to 325. Few hours later I open 88 to 10, bb who is a younger guy tosses in a green and red chip and then looks to the guy to his left and cringes a bit like he thought it was two reds for a call. I noticed this and then decided to put him all in for 160. Lol. This might be an epic spew/punt, he thinks for a few seconds and calls. Board runs 567qq. Of course he has QQ. Looking back, I should have asked him if he meant that as a call or a raise. I also don’t really mind the jam either as it’s balancing my super narrow 4bet range but that wasn’t my original strategy. Overall definitely one of my worst sessions I’ve played. It turns into being a 5 dollar loss after I get paid for the promo. So definitely not as bad as it could have been. I will be playing 2/5 tomorrow for the first time so gl us!!

Session #41 (first time shot taking 2/5)
In for $500 at 6:30p
Out for $0 at 8:45p
Bankroll is at $7507 (last $160 added from promo)

So this really wasn't how I envisioned the session going hahaha. I got in the must move game and ran it to about 660. The first hand of the session I was dealt QQ, I 3 bet and c bet the flop and took it down. (when I looked down at them I thought to my self this isnt good, because everytime I start a session well, it all goes up in flames). Very next hand I get AKo and 3 bet again and take it down on a c bet on the flop. So right off the bat I'm up about 100. I get moved to the main game and didn't win a hand. I didn't play many either. My bust hand, utg2 opens to 15 lj calls, I look down at KK so I 3 bet to 45, need to size bigger here (65-75), both call. Flop 666, utg2 and lj check I bet 75, utg2 calls, lj folds, turn 9, utg2 leads 110 I jam 400 he snap calls with 99...guy to my right said he folded a 9. Idk if calling the turn would have been any different. I tend to just want to get it in when I face a big bet and have a strong hand. Such a tough beat to get 1 outted. I decided to just get food and go home. I was disappointed that that hand happened cause I was really gearing up for a long session. I wasn't as nervous as I thought I would be either I also didn't realize how big the pots actually get. Depending on how this week goes and if my roll is over 8k or not, Im going to shoot for next friday or saturday to shot take again.

Session #42 (yesterday Sunday July 1)
Stared at 5:30p
In for a total of $360
Out for $0 at 6:58p
Bankroll is at $7147

Today felt like I went and put $360 in a slot machine and just pulled the lever. Again, started off the session by getting built up to 260 and the and then got smashed. Aces cracked by KQ, KQ on Q high flop smashed on the turn by AK when the A rolls. Those were the two hands I got stacked on. I need to get back in the lab instead of just trying to get a ton of hours in. 1k downswing again and starting the month in the hole, just like June. Not sure the next day I will play this week with Wednesday being the 4th, it might not be till Thursday. Hopefully I can get 10-15 hours in the lab this week and regroup for the weekend.

Session #43 (last night)
Started at 7:50p
In for a total of $300
Out for $0 at 11:12p
Bankroll is at $6847

Downswinging. Misplaying Aces. 80/20 favorites getting run down.
I couldn't pick up any hands and it unfortunately built a table image that whenever I would raise I would get no action. So it was really tough to build any stack or break out of that image. I had A5ss on the btn, and I opened to 8, the big blind calls. Flop comes A34ccx, she checks I bet 12 and she calls. Turn is Ao, she checks again and I bet 20, she calls. River Ko, she checks again and now I don't really know what to do. I have never played with her before and but in other hands during this session I have seen her check nut and 2nd nut hands when shes oop or first to act. I talked with my buddy and we both agreed that we never see her checking a straight, boat or any A and he thought a sizing of 65-75. I decided on betting 55 on the river and she called with A8. So we lose as she again checked a strong hand, she said she though I had AK. lol but still called pre, flop and turn and river thinking I had AK. I reloaded 100 after that hand. I moved seats to the left of a fish I had taken 300 from a few nights ago. I had dead reads on this guy and figured he was here to donate again lol. He recognized me and said that he was gonna get me tonight. 3 limps in front. I have AA in the bb, i make it 16. 2 callers, including fish in sb. Flop 344r, sb checks, I bet 20, first limper folds, sb calls. Turn 5o, sb leads for 27, I for some unknown reason decide to rip it in for 155eff. lol. Not really sure even what my own thought process was. Of course he snapped with 67o. Nothing worse is calling me. So I should just be flatting there and re evaluating rivers. Very poor play by me and right as soon as I ripped it in I knew I ****ed up. Looking to maybe play tomorrow, we'll see tho, maybe take a break leading into the weekend, not sure. Happy 4th!

Session #44
In for a total of $375
Started at 7:39p
Out for $73 at 10:55p
Bankroll is at $6535

This session had a lot of potential to it but It ended up quite disappointing. Games like this I should be crushing but I just seem to be running into it as of late. First table I sat at was super boring. I table changed to a much better game with drinks flowing and lots of talking. Sat down at the new game with like 195. Picked up AKo in ep and opened to 8, emp calls, mp goes all in for 30, I call and emp calls. Emp has me covered and I should be 4betting or rejamming it against this emp. But we end up just checking it down. Board runs J8367r. I show, emp shows 74o lol, and mp shows 55. I would have lost either way but maybe a little misplay by me. Few hands later I get mixed up with the guy to my right who is a tell box and acts like he doesn’t know what is going on, which could be true because he’s calling everything, taking forever, acting like he’s gonna bet then checks and asking super obvious questions, he’s also sizing his bets preflop to the strength of his hand. I am in utg and look down at QQch and open to 8, 5 callers. Flop Q86sss, Bb donks 12, I raise to 45, bb calls. Turn Ks, ugh. I knew he hit the flush it was so obvious to me at least. He acts like he’s gonna bet and he checks, I check back. River 4o, he thinks a bit and checks, I check back. He has 22sc :| I honestly don’t know if he is ever folding a flush because in his mind it’s a FLUSH. Just running into it again. Lol. I move seats to get better position to the money and top off. Last hand I have 99 in the sb, player from last hand opens from utg1 to 7, 2 callers, I have 99 in sb and I feel like this hand is good to squeeze with so I make it 30, I think I should maybe make it more 45-50. Just the utg1 calls. Flop KT7r. I cbet 45, he calls. Turn 9o. BINK!! I bet 100 he jams 155ish. I call. River Qo. I turn over my hand and he looks at his for 30-45 seconds and starts smiling and eventually turns over KJ. :| I can’t tell if that’s a slow roll or just a player not being able to read his hand then finally counting it out in his head. He said he knew what he was doing the whole time. So idk. After that hand I left. What do you guys make of players that check dark to you. Ex. from yesterday. Mp makes it 8, I 3 bet to 30 with QQch on the btn, sb calls, mp folds. Sb checks dark, flop 522r I bet 25, he jams for 180. I tell him the only hands hes doing that with are KK and AA. And I fold QQ and he shows AA. So do you take checking dark as a sign of strength or what?

Session #45 (last night)
In for a total of $545
Started at 9:05p
Out for $0 at 1:42a
Bankroll is at $5990

Last night I wanted to quit poker and give up. I am on a 2.1k downswing and have booked 6 straight losses. Within the first hour, I was in the game for the full 545. I went for value after a guy checked it to me when I had TPTK on a super dry board. He flopped two pair and called. I reloaded for 100 more. Then I got into a tricky spot, I have K6ss on the btn and there are 6 limps ahead of me, I decide to limp, flop 628css, utg bets 7, utg1 raises to 15, I call, utg 3bets to 90, utg1 folds, I jam 250eff and utg calls with 22. Board runs 8K and he scoops. I think all options are okay preflop. I think a raise to 18-20 is a little better than a limp though because it thins the field and folding is also just fine. I normally feel pretty good about getting money in with a pair+flush draw because I am not usually that far behind if behind at all. A set is as far behind as I could be and am still 2.33:1. I wanted to know your guys thoughts or strats on hands like this. I've been running pretty bad lately and am just wondering if I should ever just get away from this strong of hand. The last 20 minutes of the session was a pretty miserable spew show. I was so frustrated from looking at Axo Kxo T9o J2o and **** hands for 3 hours straight. I 4 bet AQ to 60 a guy 5bet jams on me for 200 and I fold he had KK. Then my bust hand was out of pure frustration and discouragement from not being able to get anything going. 2 limps, I have 87hh in utg, I make it 12. 5 callers, guy who had KK vs me, 3 bets to 55, I 4 bet jam 220 and he calls after 30 seconds with AQo, board. J4269r. I guess Im just balancing my 4 bet range lol. ****. I am going to take an 11 day break, I will be in Philadelphia next weekend so my next session will be July 18. I plan on studying after work this coming week to hopefully find spots I am weak in. Any advice or critique would be great.

Shake, just finished a novel and somehow lost connection and got everything erased so here's the condensed version.
Don't quit poker.
Yes, take a break
Change up your play if you're playing against same people
Raise more. 8 isn't going to achieve much. I usually raise between 10 and 15.
Tighten your range
Take an honest look back at each session
Cheers.

Damn, if you want to retype feel free!!! I’m hoping with that 8 hour promo over I won’t be seeing the same regs everyday. But we ll see. I do like the idea of my opening sizes being a tad bigger. 5x does seem a little big tho. Idk, maybe from ep I can open bigger and lp open a tad smaller or the other way around. I can toy with it when I get back in the mix. I hope to clear the slate and come back on the 18th and book a W