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Old 09-14-2017, 03:12 AM   #1
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self reliance -- educating myself in plo

tried to think of sexy thread title but you'll have to settle for this nice corny one.

Decided to learn PLO recently (5 years too late obv) for game selection reasons and thought I'd start a thread to aggregate thoughts of mine, comments of others, and general progress development into something productive and useful for me and hopefully others.

I've been playing poker full time since beginning of 2016 and have done relatively well. Playing mostly 2k on U.S. sites these days. Games can be a bit spotty at times so trying to learn a new game and improve my overall average table quality as well as table count.

This will be an informal and perhaps meandering thread (as I will still be grinding 20-25 hours a week of NLHE) but I'm hoping it will keep me interested and motivated. For those who grind PLO or are interested in learning PLO themselves, welcome and thanks for stopping by . Your contributions are appreciated.




beginning graph lol got bored of micros and moved up to midstakes yeehaw



^tonight haha what do you guys think is the % of PGC threads created after OP has sick night/week/month xD
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:18 AM   #2
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Re: self reliance -- educating myself in plo

iPoker - $4 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $451.24 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 9)
UTG: $608.62 (VPIP: 45.95, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 38)
MP: $194.00 (VPIP: 37.04, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (CO): $557.96
BTN: $395.34 (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 19.83, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 117)
SB: $1,180.74 (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 42)

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has A 2 A 7

UTG calls $4.00, fold, Hero raises to $18.00, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $14.00

Flop: ($42.00, 2 players) K 7 2
UTG checks, Hero bets $28.45, UTG calls $28.45

Turn: ($98.90, 2 players) 6
UTG checks, Hero bets $51.93, UTG calls $51.93

River: ($202.76, 2 players) 6
UTG bets $143.17, Hero raises to $459.58, fold

Hero mucks A 2 A 7 (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)

Hero wins $802.51


dont f w me
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:26 AM   #3
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Re: self reliance -- educating myself in plo

iPoker - $3 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $460.15 (VPIP: 36.76, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 69)
UTG: $773.73 (VPIP: 31.74, PFR: 20.36, 3Bet Preflop: 4.29, Hands: 169)
MP: $466.03 (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
Hero (CO): $510.82
BTN: $298.75 (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: $598.34 (VPIP: 28.79, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 66)

SB posts SB $1.50, BB posts BB $3.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $4.50) Hero has J 5 A 4

fold, MP calls $3.00, Hero raises to $13.50, BTN calls $13.50, SB calls $12.00, fold, MP calls $10.50

Flop: ($57.00, 4 players) 7 8 Q
SB bets $3.00, MP calls $3.00, Hero raises to $44.00, BTN calls $44.00, fold, fold

Turn: ($151.00, 2 players) K
Hero bets $74.00, BTN calls $74.00

River: ($299.00, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets $167.25, fold

BTN wins $463.25


seems like a borderline iso pre from CO, from BTN think it's more std
ott is weird our immediate FE is really low and we don't block any value hands but we do have a lot of equity...not sure on b/c or xc or xrai all seem viable to me.
as played otr I thought he has a tough time folding 77/88 on this totally blank runout so I just gave up.
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:39 AM   #4
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Re: self reliance -- educating myself in plo

i like betting turn, checking just seems to turn our hand face up. if he is flat calling a set on that flop, villain has a good chance of again flat calling on that particular turn.

not sure what we would be accomplishing by c/r all in on turn.

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Old 09-15-2017, 01:51 PM   #5
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Re: self reliance -- educating myself in plo

some folds I made...

iPoker - $2 PL Hi - Omaha Hi - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: $203.56 (VPIP: 40.15, PFR: 19.71, 3Bet Preflop: 12.73, Hands: 140)
CO: $532.20 (VPIP: 52.58, PFR: 23.71, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 98)
BTN: $403.07 (VPIP: 30.57, PFR: 19.65, 3Bet Preflop: 7.78, Hands: 232)
Hero (SB): $200.00
BB: $295.38 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 2.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 96)
UTG: $159.60 (VPIP: 30.19, PFR: 7.55, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 53)
UTG+1: $78.00 (VPIP: 72.41, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
MP: $195.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has Q T 8 J

fold, UTG+1 calls $2.00, fold, MP+1 calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $12.00, fold, UTG+1 calls $10.00, MP+1 calls $10.00, CO calls $10.00

Flop: ($50.00, 4 players) 8 Q A
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP+1 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($50.00, 4 players) T
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP+1 checks, CO bets $47.23, fold, fold, fold

CO wins $94.46


iPoker - $3 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $753.90 (VPIP: 40.91, PFR: 19.09, 3Bet Preflop: 10.64, Hands: 112)
BB: $384.48 (VPIP: 41.51, PFR: 16.98, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 53)
Hero (UTG): $360.07
CO: $483.59 (VPIP: 23.40, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 48)
BTN: $300.00 (VPIP: 31.96, PFR: 17.53, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 98)

SB posts SB $1.50, BB posts BB $3.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $4.50) Hero has K 6 Q Q

Hero raises to $10.50, fold, BTN calls $10.50, fold, BB calls $7.50

Flop: ($33.00, 3 players) 5 T J
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($33.00, 3 players) K
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $23.38, BB calls $23.38, fold

River: ($79.76, 2 players) 7
BB checks, BTN checks

BB shows J 3 4 J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 65%, Flop 92%, Turn 97%)
BTN shows 6 T 6 K (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 35%, Flop 8%, Turn 3%)
BB wins $76.76


...and one I didn't make and probably could have...

iPoker - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $120.13 (VPIP: 64.58, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
UTG: $167.05 (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 50)
MP: $138.62 (VPIP: 27.37, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 96)
Hero (CO): $201.49
BTN: $43.92 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: $98.21 (VPIP: 53.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has K Q T A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3.00, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($14.00, 4 players) 5 2 7
SB checks, BB bets $9.92, Hero calls $9.92, fold, fold

Turn: ($33.84, 2 players) Q
BB bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50

River: ($84.84, 2 players) A
BB bets $35.50, Hero calls $35.50

Hero mucks K Q T A (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 51%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
BB shows T J K T (Flush, King High)
(Pre 49%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
BB wins $152.84


thoughts?
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:44 PM   #6
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Re: self reliance -- educating myself in plo

Since you have multiple hands in this ongoing thread, might I suggest you label them numerically to separate them and for ease of discussion?


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some folds I made...

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Check is fine

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has Q T 8 J

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I cbet here

Pre Flop: (pot: $4.50) Hero has K 6 Q Q

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Can't fault you for calling. This is more of a player pool read, meaning that do people lead 3 streets with worse or nut flush blocker here? Playing balanced I would never fold.

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has K Q T A

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