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10-04-2020 , 02:27 PM
Good job on folding pre. You likely saved a couple more buy ins.
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10-05-2020 , 09:01 AM
Alright, gonna do a weekly update to try and keep my hand volume on track. Played another short session before bed last night and won some $.

Hands played: 3,765 (+ a dozen tourneys)
Bankroll: + a bit over 5 buy-ins


I’m tracking cash and tourneys separate on my phone, so I’ll know how both look at the end of a month. Not going to play too many tourneys though.

Would prefer if I had a better start on hand volume, but overall I think it’s going fine. I’m not going to stress out and spend every free minute grinding hands for my goals, but if I just keep a decent pace I should be able to find a few days a month where I play 2-3K hands.

Some HH’s from the past few days:

Wtf lol hand #1 from last night~

6-max - 100bb effective

I open black 10’s from HJ 2.2x, BTN 3! to 8bb, I call.

Ad - 10d - 5d (17.5bb)

I x, V bets 2bb (wtf?), I xr to 9bb, V clicks it back to 18bb (wtf? lol), I call

4d (54.5bb)

I x, v bets 12bb, I call

5c (78.5)

I jam my 59bb, V...

HH2: Red 10’s this time~

6-max - 100bb effective

UTG opens 3x, I 10x LJ with 10’s, sb calls (?!?), UTG folds, I call

6c - 2d - 7s (24bb)

V x’s, I 7.5bb, V xr to 17bb, I call

Jh (57-ish bb)

X, x

6s (57bb)

V piles remaining 47.5bb, I ...

HH3: Call or rip pre...~

9-max - 110 effective w/ UTG+1

QdQh

UTG+1 opens 3x, 35 bb shortstack calls MP, I 3! HJ 14 bb, UTG+1 4!’s to 30.5bb, fold, I call

Qc - 9c - 4d (68bb)

X, I x,

9h (68bb)

X, I bet 27-30% with about 25-30% more than pot in our stacks, quick fold.

V is good enough to be 4!ing AK/AQ and probably JJ+, is my assumption. V is also good enough to realize that I’ll be attacking short stack here wider than most players would, but in this config ranges are still pretty tight imo.

HH4: Click jam and hope for the best~

JdJs - 6 max - 102 bb effective

I open JdJs 2.2x UTG, folds to bb who 3! to 10x, I call.

Flop: (20.5 bb) 8h - 10h - 3s

V continues 11 bb, I call

Turn: (42.5 bb) 5s

V barrels 30 bb, I jam my 81 bb...

These spots are pretty gross and I’m never sure what’s best honestly. I think this is when I believe V continues barreling air often enough on turns...?
Obviously I’m just drawing to two outs here a lot, but what can you do.

HH5: Wtf lol hand #2~

This is 100% me just feeling loose/maybe inebriated and lol-ing around for the lolz. Big blind is an aggressive reg in this hand and my plan was to unleash some strange **** on him, but sb decided to deflect my weirdness on himself instead. Sb is also a reg.

6-max (125 bb effective)

I limp btn with K-3hh (lolzzz), sb raises to 4 bb, bb folds, I minclick it back to 8 bb’s (lolzzzzz), sb calls

Flop: (17 bb) Jc - 6c - 9h

V x, I 12.25 bb, snap fold

This isn’t something I regularly do or something. This is just me having fun for the sake of fun and ****ing with regs.

Anyway, this concludes another wall of text from yours truly. Will probably update weekly moving forward, but might post the odd amusing or weird HH randomly.

Last edited by XtraScratch8; 10-05-2020 at 09:10 AM.
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10-05-2020 , 11:08 AM
subbed, gl.

Any chance you could use a hand converter for the hands? Makes reading them (and posting them) a lot easier. LMK if you'd need help with that!
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10-05-2020 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Good job on folding pre. You likely saved a couple more buy ins.
Ya man, I think so too. Last few days have been pretty rough for sour variance, but it’s the game.
I’ll probably try to get a bit better at turning bad starts into decent sessions, but there’s also times where I just can’t be bothered to try.

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subbed, gl.

Any chance you could use a hand converter for the hands? Makes reading them (and posting them) a lot easier. LMK if you'd need help with that!
Thanks for subbing Wegg! My setup is so brutal. I’m looking to buy a house in the next few months though so I’m saving every extra $K that I can right now. Will upgrade soon and will reach out when I do. As for now I’m confident that I’m +EV at 50NL on this garbage laptop. I would be surprised if this laptop is older than 2010, and it wasn’t a good one to start with.
Is there a way to just manually input data into a hand converter to make the HH’s a bit easier visually?
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10-12-2020 , 03:28 AM
Calling it a week at 3:30 am

Can’t be upset with my week. Did decent for hand volume (by my standards, I know my hand volume is a joke compared to some PG&C’s). Won some $. Here’s the brief update, I’ll do a better one tomorrow.

Week #2 - 5773 hands

Monday Oct. 5 - 922 hands - -2 BI
Wednesday Oct. 7 - 836 hands - +2.5 BI
Thursday Oct. 8 - 686 - BE
Friday Oct. 9 - 1,106 - +1.75 BI
Saturday Oct. 10 - 1,276 - +2.25 BI
Sunday Oct. 11 - 947 - +1.75 BI


So I guess I’m around 10K hands total atm. I’ll figure it out tomorrow. Also played several tourneys today to be able to pay less attention while watching sports again. Bricked 3, but final tabled one. So bit of a plus there as well. I originally said that I’d start playing some 100nl once I reached 1K in my bankroll, but that’s unnecessarily increasing variance I’ve decided and I’m just going to keep doing what I’m doing and make my hand volume priority #1. I’ll reassess that if I keep up this pace another few weeks.

Only other major change is that I’ve been playing 90% of my volume at zoom now.

Time to sleep. Scratch out.
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10-12-2020 , 12:45 PM
Total hands: 9,538 hands

Right. So not much more to say other than what I posted last night. Just wanted to put my total hands played so far and add a couple HH’s. I’m actually taking down less HH’s lately because I have to do it manually on my phone and it interrupts the flow of my sessions. I still do it if I feel confused by a spot, but that’s happening less often these days. Feeling really solid about my overall strategy right now, and playing 3-5 short sessions most days. Not too many super interesting hands, but here’s a few that were kind of fun.

All these are 6-max zoom hands:

HH #1 - What’s he even repping? ~

10h10s (105 effective)

Good aggro reg opens btn 2.25x, sb (no reads) calls, I 3! to 12x from bb (a bit too small imo), btn calls, sb calls

8c - 2d - 2h (35 bb’s)

Sb x, I continue 12.5 bb’s, btn folds, sb xr’s to 28 bb’s (wtf?), I jam...

HH #2 - Starting to love these CO calls ~

I open red 66 UTG 2.2x, CO calls, bb calls

Flop: Qc - 5d - 7h (7 bb)

bb x’s, I cbet 2 bb’s, CO calls, bb folds

Turn: 9c (11 bb)

I x, CO bets 6 bb, I xr to 17.5 bb, V snap folds

HH #3 - Against a good reg bb vs. sb ~

AdQs - 140 effective

Sb opens 3x, I call bb. HU.

Qc - 8s - 9s (5.8 bb)

V x’s, I bet 3 bb’s, V calls

7s (11.5 bb’s)

V donks 9 bb’s, I call

3d (29 bb’s)

V overbets 43 bb’s, I call

HH #4 - Button is my happy place ~

Ah4s BTN - 105 effective

I open BTN 2.5x, aggro reg 3!’s sb 10x, bb folds, I 4! 22.5x, sb calls

Flop: Kd - 2s - 5h (45.5 bb)

Sb x’s, I cbet 13 bb’s, Sb folds

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Alright, that’s it for now. Later.
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10-12-2020 , 01:58 PM
In H1 why did you jam over his CR?
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10-12-2020 , 02:05 PM
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In H1 why did you jam over his CR?
Good question that I never really thought much about. I guess my thinking at the time was that he almost always has 8x, 99, or two overs. Seeing a queen or king peel off on the turn would be sick and I’d never feel like I could fold at that point.
And I guess I thought his line was so ridiculous that he’d just call off with most of his 8x.
Good point as usual though. Flatting and snap his jam or GII over his assumed bet on the turn is likely quite a bit better.
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10-12-2020 , 03:04 PM
I’m walking, on my phone, and there are cute girls to distract me- so take anything I say w a grain of salt. Ackshually, always do that.

H1

Hmmm well the double flat in H1 makes me think this isn’t going to be overs too often and more likely 99s, 8x suited for value/protection.

So jamming like you did can’t be bad no? In that I don’t think V is just going to have red KJo or sumthin like that to hang himself.

H2

are u betting this sizing multi-way w top of teh range OTF?

x/r turn is sexy so has to be good imo

H3

I’m no wizard so I just pump it up with the AQ pre...

AP I be folding man. I think this guy just trying to squeeze out the max here.

This board is fairly wet and we’ll have a lot of flushes, 2p+ bvb w the smooth pre I think.

H4

everybody likes a hero!

sexy so can’t be bad


run good yo!
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10-12-2020 , 03:49 PM
H3

what's your strategy bb vs sb pf? I was surprised you didn't 3bet.
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10-12-2020 , 05:28 PM
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H1

Hmmm well the double flat in H1 makes me think this isn’t going to be overs too often and more likely 99s, 8x suited for value/protection.

So jamming like you did can’t be bad no? In that I don’t think V is just going to have red KJo or sumthin like that to hang himself.

H2

are u betting this sizing multi-way w top of teh range OTF?
H1: when a random double flats sb here pre I assume he has a lot of 66-99/KQ/KJs/QJs/78s-910s type of range.

I honestly didn’t even think about how flatting his flop xr could be better.

H2: I’m definitely mixing sizes in a multi-way spot like this depending on a handful of factors. Especially when I think the opponents are weak and I can make their hand play face up on later streets.
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10-12-2020 , 05:38 PM
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H3

I’m no wizard so I just pump it up with the AQ pre...
I am by no means a wizard. In some spots I’m very aware that I straight up suck.

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H3

what's your strategy bb vs sb pf? I was surprised you didn't 3bet.
My baseline strategy would definitely be 3! preflop, but against this specific aggro reg my feeling was that I gain more EV by flatting the odd hand this strong in position bb vs sb and trying to encourage spew postflop.

Fwiw I do have a high opinion of this V, and my read was that he suspects he can push me around postflop, and in some cases, he wouldn’t be incorrect.

If I 3! here I think he folds a lot of hands that I want him to play OOP against me, and I also think he’ll 4! worse hands a reasonable amount of the time and outplay me on certain flops I can’t call down on postflop.

But yes, generally I am definitely 3!ing this hand and many worse hands than this against the pool.

Very curious to hear your thoughts on if this is a decent deviation, and same for H1.
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10-12-2020 , 06:01 PM
I would still 3bet AQo bb vs sb. It's not really a hand I would choose to try and "trap" with. If you're balanced correctly there are plenty of hands in all your other lines you can play without having to worry about whether he's 4betting light or whatever.

I think you have to be wary of trying to FPS too much vs regs you think are good.

A lot of times I feel like you give people too much credit.

The TT is definitely a 3bet, but is better due to villain's propensity to want to flat with worse in this spot and multiplied by the sb.

SB flatting is a sign that they probably aren't very good and it increases the chances they will flat behind again button after you 3bet so a larger sizing here for value I think is warranted.
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10-12-2020 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
I would still 3bet AQo bb vs sb. It's not really a hand I would choose to try and "trap" with. If you're balanced correctly there are plenty of hands in all your other lines you can play without having to worry about whether he's 4betting light or whatever.

I think you have to be wary of trying to FPS too much vs regs you think are good.

A lot of times I feel like you give people too much credit.


The TT is definitely a 3bet, but is better due to villain's propensity to want to flat with worse in this spot and multiplied by the sb.

SB flatting is a sign that they probably aren't very good and it increases the chances they will flat behind again button after you 3bet so a larger sizing here for value I think is warranted.
Solid read Spyu. Big +1 to bolded italics. I seriously can’t and won’t dispute at all. I’m pretty certain it’s one of my biggest leaks.

Agree with the bigger 3! preflop in the 10’s hand. I think 14-15x pre is much better. Especially because I’ve even seen button fold this spot sometimes, and Sb still flats the 3!.

The flop spot facing the sb xr I am a little unclear on. By my math I would only have 65 bb in my stack once matching his xr. So the options are flat, jam, or minclick back at him. I guess I can see why minraise is the best option of those, it puts sb in a really terrible spot with basically everything he should have here.

Edit: my math has my stack at 65bb if I flatted his xr and the pot at 91bb so I thought it was a pretty clear jam.

I had never really even thought of that as an option. I mostly found the hand very strange because I couldn’t understand what he could possibly credibly XR me with.
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10-12-2020 , 07:03 PM
Yeah there's nothing he should be CRing there. I prefer call flop to give him a chance to fire again. Or he might check call turn with worse as well.

Jamming flop just shuts down everything worse he might put more money with on the turn. Though I get why you jammed because you have TT and are afraid to see an overcard.
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10-12-2020 , 09:03 PM
Results of HH’s:

Spoiler:

HH#1 - V folds without taking too long, supporting Spyu’s take unsurprisingly.
HH#3 - V has 55 and I scoop.


Also:

Spoiler:
I spewed my stack once or twice making questionable decisions that I didn’t post.
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10-15-2020 , 05:10 AM
In there like swimwear! All the best mate and will be chiming in here when I get free time!
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10-18-2020 , 07:23 PM
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In there like swimwear! All the best mate and will be chiming in here when I get free time!
Thanks for joining Meale. Best of luck with the coaching site!
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10-18-2020 , 07:24 PM
Oct. 12th week ~

Tuesday Oct. 13th - 782 hands -1.5 BI
Wednesday Oct. 14th - 530 hands +1 BI
Friday Oct. 16th - 1,482 hands -3.75 BI
Saturday Oct. 17th - 806 hands -1.5 BI
Sunday Oct. 18th - 570 hands +1 BI

- 4,170 total hands

Bound to happen I guess. I got roasted pretty good this week. Especially this weekend when I planned on putting in lots of volume. Started off Friday night with a session where it took me 550 hands to win a single hand at showdown. Ran KK into AA several times over the weekend (one time I could of hero folded, and didn’t). Bricked the 5 tourneys I played. Then worst of all, I decided to hop up a stake and lost a buy-in there as well. And it was a bit of a tilt punt. Not a huge one, but definitely qualifies imo. Kinda dumb.
Anyway, all told lost about 25-30% of the BR over the weekend when games are generally good. It happens. Still feeling alright about where I’m at in general. Up a half dozen buy-ins since the start of PG&C still. Not gonna jump stakes again unless I’m doing well and BR can afford the shot.
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10-18-2020 , 07:40 PM
Few HH’s:

These are all 6-max hands

HH1: 100 bb effective- not the river i wanna see, hard to fold after flop x ~

AQ I open from CO 2.3x, Sb 3!’s to 10.5x, I call

A - 7 - 3 (22.5 bb)

X, x

2 (22 bb)

V bets 10 bb, I call

J (42 bb)

V bets 29.5, I call.

HH2: not the ideal runout for AA in 4! pot ~

AA - 110 bb effective

Open 2.2x LJ, BTN (no reads, German) 3!’s 7.5x, I 4! 20.5x, calls

6 - 10 - 9 (42.5bb)

I continue 13.5 bb, BTN calls

Q (69.5 bb)

X, x

J (69.5)

X, V bets 22 bb...

HH3: can’t win with winning hands, gotta win with heart I guess ~

67 I open HJ 2.2x, decent reg BTN 3!’s to 7.5x, folds me, I call

Flop: 5 - A - 2 (16.5 bb’s)

I x, BTN bets 5.25 bb, I call

Turn: 8 (27 bb’s)

I x, BTN bets 17 bb’s, I crai my 87 bb’s...

HH4: seems like slam dunk value to me ~

AK - 110 bb effective

HJ opens 2.5x (600 bb stack), folds to me in sb, I 3! 10.5x, he calls

A - 3 - 6 (22 bb’s)

I continue 9 bb’s, he calls

6 (40 bb’s)

I continue 20 bb’s he calls

9 (80 bb’s)

I jam 80 bb’s left, V...
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10-18-2020 , 09:02 PM
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Then worst of all, I decided to hop up a stake .
Yeah this is pretty much the best way to guarantee you torch your roll.
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10-18-2020 , 09:36 PM
^ I think you’re forgetting that they’ll respect your raises more at a higher stake..
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10-18-2020 , 09:50 PM
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Yeah this is pretty much the best way to guarantee you torch your roll.
Ya, for sure. I’m aware it was a dumbass thing to do. Thanks for reinforcing that though Spyu (I mean that seriously, not in a snarky way).
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10-18-2020 , 11:11 PM
One last HH that was interesting against a good reg b v. b.

HH#5: AQ in sb vs bb - 100 bb eff

I open sb 3x, V 3!’s bb to 9x, I call

Flop: 8 - 2 - 10 (18 bb)

X, V bets 5.75 bb, I call

Turn: 10 (29 bb)

X, x

River: 3 (29 bb)

I x, V bets 9.25 bb, I xr to 24.25 bb...
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10-19-2020 , 04:00 AM
HH2 I think betting close to pot would be a lot.better.

I would mostly fold AQo sb vs bb 3bet.
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