Ya. A bigger flop bet is definitely better on that board. Even my size pre kinda sucks if I copied it down correctly.

Surprised you say fold AQo to the 3bet mostly. Isn’t that super tight? There’s a fair bit of 3!ing b v. b against the better regs.

Here’s results from those hands:

Definitely don't fold AQo SB v BB. At worst you could 4bet it but since most people 3b a ton of junk we dominate we definitely want to be calling.

Sorry I misread that. It should be a 4bet with the AQ.

All good, I kinda assumed you misread honestly. I know my HH’s aren’t the easiest to follow sometimes.
I think in general I’m definitely under 4!ing the sb vs. bb, but at this stake I think it works pretty well.
The river was a cool spot because I was pretty sure I was ahead, but raising small seems better than just calling given the turn action.

4th of 1,350+ last night in a small buy-in bounty builder.
Cash is going well this week so far too.
Could start taking 100nl shots, but am just going to stay focused on hand volume for another few weeks.

Week Recap:

Week of Oct 19th:

Mon Oct 19th - 1,412 hands ~ +1.5 BI
Tues Oct. 20th - 426 hands ~ BE
Wed Oct 21st - 1,200 hands ~ +3.5 BI
Thurs Oct 22nd - 185 hands ~ +1 BI
Fri Oct 23rd - 717 hands ~ +1 BI
Sat Oct 24th - 680 hands ~ +1 BI

+ 4,620 hands

Total hands played: 18,328

Solid week for sure. This combined with a deep run in a bounty builder has set me up pretty well moving forward. Didn’t really take down any HH’s this week. Only a couple funny coolers that I’ll probably put up at some point tomorrow.

Top notch coolers

HH1: 130 bb effective

I open 1010 from LJ, bb 3!’s to 10x bb, I call

Flop: 2 - 4 - 10 (20.5 bb)

He cbets 60%, I call

Turn: K (45-ish bb)

He continues 70-ish%, I call

River: J (100-ish bb)

He rips remaining 70 bb’s into about 100 bb pot, I call...

HH2: 115 bb effective

I open HJ with 68, bb defends

Flop: 5 - 9 - 5 (5-ish bb)

X, I cbet 75%, call

Turn: 3 (12.5-ish bb)

X, I continue 85%-ish, call

River: 7 (32.5-ish bb)

X, I bet 27.5 bb, bb raises to 65, I obviously ship remaining stack.

H1 is pretty gross. I hate when that happens.

H2 I think your flop bet is too big and check back turn seems best when you do go big on flop and get called.

I think in reality I might of actually checked back that turn. I do remember I went big on the flop though. I think the river action is wrong too, I think he led, I raised huge and HE shipped.
I wasn’t too concerned about getting the action correct because they were just hilarious runouts. I do agree that check back turn is better if I did recall it correctly above.
Overall, have been doing fairly well the last 10 days or so. Thanks for your input Spyu. Should have more interesting hh’s sometime this upcoming weekend and a month recap.

Edit: lol Spyu the following is what I wrote down in my notepad for hh#2 after my session...

68 dd

5d - 9d - 5c

3h

7d

So here’s an interesting hand that happened during my short session before work. V is from Finland which immediately makes me respect him more as I’m reading through Makeboifin’s PG&C that he kept a few years ago at work. lol

Here’s the hand: 100 bb effective

V opens HJ 2.4x, I call 77 OtB (I mix 3!/call with this hand depending on a few factors), blinds fold. HU.

Flop: Q - 7 - 5 (6.1 bb’s)

V cbets 3.1 bb, I decide to flat

Turn: K (12 bb)

V overbets 15.5 bb, I call

River: 2 (41 bb after rake)

V bets 31 bb, I jam my remaining 77-78 bb (46-47 bb on top)...

Here’s my questions because coming from a live background I am still a bit of a noob regarding OB theory.

1. What should V’s range OTT look like here? What would some of his OB bluffs look like? How many bluffs should have in his range? Most of them are big draws, true? AKcc, AJcc, A-10cc, J-10cc type hands with maybe some AcQx type stuff?
2. Is not having a raising range at all fine for me OTT? Obviously this hand was much easier to play because I am literally at the very top of my range OTT here, but if I’m not jamming this over OB OTT then I am raising 0%. Is this theoretically fine?
3. Would jam be my only raise size on the turn or is there any merit to any other potential size?

Any other thoughts I would be curious to hear as well. I am just trying to get better at playing against and using OB’s myself, and this hand brought up some interesting questions for me.

PF pretty standard. I don't think I would 3bet very often with this hand here.

Flop I think you can definitely mix it up between calls and raises.

Turn I think his range should mostly be a lot of KT-KQ and Kcxc, QQ, KK, AK, AcJc, AcTc, JcTc, Tc9c, maybe AA once in awhile.

I think his range is relatively strong here so would do better to raise the turn pretty often with your hand. As far as sizing goes given the stack sizes I think jamming or a small raise are both fine as it shouldn't matter that much in the end.

In game my thinking got a bit convoluted and started wondering what else I would realistically want to jam with. Was also thinking I would only want to use jam against OB, but 2.5x raise is interesting I was realizing after. Puts him in some gross spots unless he has QQ/KK and the river is more awkward for him when he gets there too. Was also wondering what my turn jam bluffs would be.

My in game thinking should probably be more like:

“I haz set. He cooked. Me jam.”

More caveman poker moving forward.

Yeah I mean you don't need that many bluffs because you're not going to have that many sets.

Week of Oct 25th:

Sun Oct 25 - 1,140 hands ~ + 1 BI
Mon Oct 26 - 794 hands ~ - .5 BI
Tues Oct 27 - 165 hands ~ + 1 BI
Wed Oct 28 - 845 hands ~ + 1 BI
Thurs Oct 29 - 2,435 hands ~ +2 BI
Fri Oct 30 - 229 hands ~ BE
Sat Oct 31 - 1,091 hands ~ +1 BI

Hands played: 6,699 hands

Just grinded last session for the month to complete hand volume goal for October. Bit of a tilting session. Played awesome and ran well the first half then had a weird hand where I misclick called QQ pre, back 3! and ran into an awkward spot where a good reg hit a runner runner flush and value owned me hard on the river after he bluff raised the turn. Shortly after that lost another 250+ bb pot with second nut flush against nut flush. Still escape with a win, but should of been a plus 3-4 buy-in session. I straight up made some dumb mistakes the last half hour of the session.

October recap:

Hands played: 25,027

Approx. +22 buyins

Overall, feel alright about the month. Definitely think I could improve in some areas. I probably ran slightly above average this month which was nice, but I also think I made some pretty mindless mistakes. Getting a solid idea now of how to play against the pool and different subsections of the player pool. Will be interesting to see how my ideas of how to exploit will work out moving forward. Sometimes it just leads me to spew in some spots, but whatever, overall I’m figuring it out I think. Some players probably have a weird impression of me, where I’ll play certain spots very tight (for reasons) and then play other spots stupid loose (for other reasons).
On to November, hope I can keep up this pace and start playing 100z sometime around Christmas holidays or early in the new year.

Few HH’s:

HH1: black 44 otb

Weak player limps LJ, weak player #2 raises 3bb from CO, I call black 44 on btn, bb squeezes to 15 bb, all 4 players go to the flop

Flop: 3-3-J rainbow (60 bb)

Checks around

6 x checks around

5 xxxxx original raiser bets 35 bb’s, folds to me, I call

HH2: AK

95 bb effective

UTG open 2.5 bb’s, I 3! OTB to 8 bb’s, folds to utg who 4!’s to 20 bb, I call

Flop: K - Q - J (41 bb)

V bets 11 bb, I call

Turn: 4 (62.5 bb)

V bets 22.5 bb, I call

River: 6 (107 bb)

V shoves remaining 43 bb, I call

HH3: K-10

100 bb effective

LJ opens 3 bb, I 3! K-10 to 9 bb’s, folds to him, he calls (decent standard tag reg)

Flop: Q - 4 - 8 (19.5 bb)

V x’s, I bet 11.25 bb, he calls

Turn: 9 (42 bb)

X, x

River: 2 (42 bb)

He bets 20.25 bb, I jam my remaining 79.5 bb...

~~~ November ~~~

Week of Nov 1st:

Sun Nov 1st - 808 hands ~ - 1 BI
Tues Nov 3rd - 798 hands ~ - 2 BI
Wed Nov 4th - 908 hands ~ - 1 BI
Fri Nov. 6th - 1,826 hands ~ + 1.5 BI
Sat Nov. 7th - 1,056 hands ~ + 4 BI

(Additional 3rd of 211 in a $27 timbey and another meh MTT placing (but better than bricking), also won the couple S&G’s I played. I’ll play S&G’s if I see a fish or four registered. All of that on a very drunk Saturday night/Sunday morning. + 11 BI or so, in addition to the + 4 BI from 50z grind.)

Hands played: 5,396

Nov. 1st week cliffs: Annoying start to the week was redeemed by a boozy sun-run sesh late Saturday night.

Didn’t really take down many HH’s. Only a few that I wanted to review after that weren’t that interesting. Have started adding another table lately when I play and I’m 90% comfortable with that now. Generally averaging 600-700 hands an hour lately.

Results from post #66:

And bonus HH from yesterday:

I open OTB with AJ 2.5x, unknown Finnish player 3!’s sb to 9.5 bb’s, I call

Flop: 9 - 9 - 3 (20 bb)

V bets 5.5 bb, I call.

Turn: J (31 bb)

V bets 27 bb, I jam remaining 85 bb’s...

I don’t know what to make of this spot. I think jamming with no Ace of hearts is good and calling without? Obviously I’m just cooked against QQ+ or 89/9-10 suited and it is what it is.

AJo seems like an awful hand to flat a 3bet with. And why are you jamming the turn?

Is flatting the 3! terrible btn vs. sb? I do 4! it a fair bit, but didn’t this time.
I felt a bit lost and buttonclicky this hand tbh. Calling flop feels standard I guess.
Jamming turn my logic was that I unblock heart draws and the 4 Q-10 suited.
I guess I was thinking that most of my turn continues want to call, but I also have some combos that want to jam and this one seemed to fit the latter criteria better? But i also did feel like I got very lucky that he had K-10hh specifically.

Like GTO it's probably a mix of flatting some and 4betting some. But honestly for me it's difficult to play post even in position so I usually 4bet or dump it in practice. It's just an ugly hand to look at in my opinion and doesn't arouse me at all like a JTs does.

Yeah I don't think you really need to be jamming any turns here. Yeah you charge for the draws like he has, but I think you give him an opportunity to bluff rivers as well instead of letting him fold on the turn. Also let's you value bet more rivers when checked too.

You are right that jamming turn really doesn’t make much sense with any part of our range that gets to this turn AP. I don’t know why I figured that I’d want to have some jams here. Basically everything I should have in this spot just wants to fold or flat. Lucky that I ran into one of the few combos he’ll have where it sucks to get jammed on, but he probably just jams river himself even when he whiffs like you say. Thx as always for your perspective Spyu.

~~~ Week of Nov. 9th ~~~

Mon Nov. 9th - 931 hands ~ BE
Thurs Nov. 12th - 585 hands ~ -2.5 BI
Fri Nov. 13th - 913 hands ~ + 4 BI
Sat Nov. 14th - 1,297 hands ~ - 2 BI
- - 6 BI timbey
Sun Nov. 15th - 642 hands ~ - 1.5 BI

Total hands: 4,368 hands

Not a great week, or month so far. Variance is consistently kicking me in the nuts this month and it’s starting to make it difficult to put volume in. I’m usually pretty decent at fighting through breakeven stretches and resetting my mindset after dropping a handful of buyins in a session, but I’ve been losing so many 70-85% spots this month that it’s just starting to make me not even want to play. I play because I enjoy the game, but everyone knows it’s not a fun game when you run disgusting. Trying to tell myself it’ll turn soon, but who knows, these stretches can last a lot longer than I want to acknowledge right now.
On the positive side, I’m not bleeding too much from my roll. Another positive thing I’ve noticed is that I’m still not afraid to pull the trigger on all my good bluff spots. I got a sexy one by you Shipnickle, if you’re reading this.
I actually feel like the main thing that’s keeping this stretch relatively breakeven-ish is that my redline is probably pretty good.
Hoping that it turns a bit this week because I should have more free time than I usually do and would be very happy if I could put in 7-10K hands this week. Another thing I’m questioning now is if I should continue playing 95% zoom when I’m running bad or hop in more regular tables which are way softer. But then it’s very difficult to put in the volume I’m aiming for with my thread goal. On the other hand, goals can be altered. I don’t know. Just going to see how the first few days go this week and hopefully I can keep grinding zoom with better results. The pools have been good lately, which is the other frustrating part. I know I have an edge on the majority of players most of the time.
That’s all, no HH’s for now because it would just come off as whining.
Onward.

Keep it up man. During downswings and BE period, I always try to find something else to do or just study more. If will build up confidence more when you grind it out.

Really considering withdrawing the $1200 or so profit I have on Stars right now to reinvest in a better setup. I’ve put in pretty solid volume by my standards this week and it’s been a lot of the same story. Now just trying to put in a session and people working on the Internet nearby have cut our wifi and phone connections to install fibre optic. Doing alright at not tilting through this month, but it is annoying the **** out of me at this point and a break probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to refresh my perspective.

Things I excel at in November:

- getting my premium hands exclusively in the blinds, piling in money pre and flopping insanely bad.
- running into rivered sets that have no business being in the hand by the river.
- running top of range into even better top of range.
- running must call downs into thin value.
- questioning simple decisions even when I’m mostly sure many of them are correct.

Anyway, curious what you guys think. If I do decide to withdraw I’ll be asking a few people ITT for their input on software ideas, and this thread would go into hiatus for awhile.