haha. he's vpiping everything but pretty passive when he's not the pfr. he pretty much every 4x and i don't think he's ever taking a hand like AJ and shipping here. he'll have some bluffs, but I'm not sure he'll have enough of them. not a call i'm losing any sleep over though

vs same whale. he's turning out to not be so passive lol

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 254.3 BB (VPIP: 16.39, PFR: 11.48, 3Bet Preflop: 6.56, Hands: 123)
Hero (CO): 133.1 BB
BTN: 226.98 BB (VPIP: 22.95, PFR: 19.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 62)
SB: 95 BB (VPIP: 18.69, PFR: 14.02, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 108)
BB: 357.5 BB (VPIP: 74.07, PFR: 49.38, 3Bet Preflop: 18.42, Hands: 81)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 T

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3 8 K
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 2.75 BB, Hero raises to 15.75 BB, BB calls 13 BB

River: (37 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 18.5 BB, Hero calls 18.5 BB

Hero shows 8 T (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 41%, Flop 18%, Turn 82%)
BB shows 7 K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 59%, Flop 82%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 73.4 BB




same whale again

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 253.3 BB (VPIP: 16.13, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 125)
Hero (BB): 169.75 BB
UTG: 226.98 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 64)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.35, PFR: 13.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 110)
BTN: 321.75 BB (VPIP: 74.70, PFR: 49.40, 3Bet Preflop: 17.95, Hands: 83)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, BTN calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (26.5 BB, 2 players) 7 3 3
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (26.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (26.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 26.5 BB, Hero calls 26.5 BB

Hero shows A K (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 64%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
BTN shows Q T (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 36%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 78.9 BB

ouch

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 86.29 BB (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 24)
CO: 185.79 BB (VPIP: 45.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 24)
Hero (BTN): 99.5 BB
SB: 99.21 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 44.44, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 18)
BB: 43.9 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 122.98 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 21)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 10.5 BB

Flop: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 4 9 5
MP bets 32.5 BB, Hero raises to 84.5 BB, MP calls 38.79 BB

Turn: (175.08 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (175.08 BB, 2 players) 2

MP shows 3 A (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 28%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 68%, Flop 72%, Turn 75%)
MP wins 174.28 BB
Hero wins 13.21 BB




double ouch

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 159.42 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 2.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
BTN: 92 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 8)
Hero (SB): 216.73 BB
BB: 132.58 BB (VPIP: 24.83, PFR: 19.31, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 148)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 68.17 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 78)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, CO raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 17 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 13 BB

Flop: (37 BB, 2 players) 6 6 T
Hero checks, CO bets 18.5 BB, Hero calls 18.5 BB

Turn: (74 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, CO bets 14 BB, Hero raises to 42 BB, CO raises to 123.92 BB, Hero calls 81.92 BB

River: (321.84 BB, 2 players) 8

CO shows K K (Full House, Kings full of Sixes)
(Pre 81%, Flop 9%, Turn 98%)
Hero mucks T T (Full House, Tens full of Sixes)
(Pre 19%, Flop 91%, Turn 2%)
CO wins 321.04 BB

We frequent the same player pool on ignition and I've been waiting to see a hand I remember in your posts. That was me in the BB. Had 56.

Great thread btw. I've been catching up. Congrats on the recent shot taking!

Do you post these hands as you're playing?

tough hand man. surprised you haven't seen a hand yet you were involved in - not sure but the 500nl player pool seems small.

and thanks, gl in the games

sometimes. probably should stop now that there's so many people from my pool itt. I don't really post anything useful, but i'd rather V's not find out what I had until the next day

I agree you should stop doing that. From an EV perspective though, not what you're holding.

probably lowers my ev a litle to be posting/surfing 2+2 while playing, but I don't think it's enough to worry about. i get distracted easily regardless, not really the type who can focus on table action when it's not on me

You just mentioned how many people in your pool read this thread. Make the connection dude. It’s not hard.

Doubt that many in the pool are reading this and with anon site matters even less

Me knowing who my opponent is and being able to see leaks while my opponent has no idea who I am means it matters less?

They have to be randomly placed onto your table, have to be following the thread, he has to play a hand interesting enough to post, and then if all of this comes together they will be lucky to get 100 hands on which to capitalize on this piece of info. So yes if he is losing any ev by doing it it's extremely extremely negligible. Not to mention there's the chance they try to exploit something and accidentally end up exploiting themselves because they misinterpret something.

it's anon, so the only way posting hh while playing could hurt me is if someone sees it right away and notices I'm on their table, then uses that info against me. highly unlikely.

i suppose people could try to copy my strategy based on the tidbits i reveal itt, and I'd encourage anyone to try. there's a reason polk can put out hundreds of free videos, some of them with excellent strat, and yet almost all of his viewers are fish.

at least 4 that I know of, so probably quite a few tbh. but who cares, see above lol

yeah tyman said it better than me

Good mother of god. If someone(you for example) sees that Tgiggity sits on a 500 or 1k table with whales and a seat open they will sit that game. How Tgiggity doesnt see this I dont know. Why you want him to keep doing it. I definitely understand.

It has literally 0 to do with someone exploiting you. Even if it was possible you are losing way more sharing whales with 2p2 regs than them exploiting you. Listen. I am going by your words. Not mine.

Why this is so difficult I genuinely do not get.

You can't choose your tables. You can't even see the tables. It's random seat placement.

weren't you the guy telling me not to act like an expert on things I know nothing about? seems like you were projecting pretty hard there. see tyman's post

There are way more than 4 lmfao. I can count maybe 15 off the top of my head

Tyman benefits directly from you posting those hands. You’re doing his work for him.

But you’re right. I’m wrong. I apologize for trying to protect your longterm EV.

And I would’ve gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddlesome kids

i'm sure there's players who benefit from the hh posted here, just like I benefited from all the hh i read in various pgc's while I grinded my way up from 25nl.

but i don't think there's much to learn from them tbh. you'd be better off downloading your own hh for pop analysis, and you aren't going to learn much about how I play from what I post. most of the hands are crazy situations that rarely come up, and i have very exploitative lines in them. i play super exploitative in general, so even if you walk away from the thread thinking you know my strategy and can use it against me, you'd be unlikely to face the same strategy in game.

honestly any time a reg spends reading my hh and not grinding is a win for me


regardless, you 500nl regs don't need to worry about me much longer. wr is at 8.4bb/100 over 130k hands (8.6 ev bb/100)

hey look guys, a **** reg gave me his stack less than 60 seconds ago. lets play... FIND! THAT! TABLE!

hurry, he might leave before you get a seat

iPoker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 95.5 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BTN): 169.65 BB
SB: 195.69 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 18.57, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 72)
BB: 94.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.8 BB, Hero raises to 23 BB, BB calls 13.2 BB

Flop: (46.5 BB, 2 players) 7 K 5
BB checks, Hero bets 17.25 BB, BB raises to 71.5 BB, Hero calls 54.25 BB

Turn: (189.5 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (189.5 BB, 2 players) A

Hero shows K A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 73%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
BB shows A T (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 27%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 188.9 BB


edit: too late, he left. 3 min window on that one haha

Going to rewrite my post.

Tgiggity I have used this thread to find tables, which is sort of good for me but also really really bad for me. However, It's absolutely terrible for you that regs can do this. Mzbourg is spot on.

Secondly you underestimate people exploiting you (regardless of what your recent results say). If the site wasn't anon then I could have shared a screen grab of where i've been exploiting you, You may be doing fine vs the population in these areas but there are a couple of spots that I am absolutely killing you without you probably realising it. The real reason to give this some thought is that I can write this here and you're very unlikely to know how I (or others) have been exploiting you. Where as I noticed quite a few things about your strat over the past couple of weeks. It's easy to think when thing are going well that all this doesn't matter. I've been there and done that (in regards to doing well then telling too many people about it). You probably won't care but there are so many things i've told other poker players that I've ended up regretting in 6-12 months time. The games won't be getting any easier, try make the most of it while you can.

Just food for thought.

+1 to all of this

That's how I read it. Don't worry ponty, if games have been good this long, they're not going anywhere because of a few posts by tg.